Curse

Ristaron · Jun 03, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

/signed

Armour switching being one main thing, weapons a close second (since you can get more weapons from storage, but if you customize them you have to keep your character). PvE PvPers have a big advantage that is completely unfair to PvP players.
The game is about skill, not hours spent. What you accomplish with a PvE character goes towards your PvP character, which is supposed to be the perfect conduit of your skill as a player.
Therefore, perfect the conduit, please.

Replicant · Jun 03, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

lol i love this thread, all the flame battles! w00t!

seriously though, you have PvE'ers saying PvE takes skill while the PvP'ers say it doesn't. Then you have the PvP'ers saying PvP takes skill while the PvE'ers say it doesn't.

you think i'm biased? no.. i'm just talkin for most of the hardcore PvE'ers. YOu say PvE takes no skill, and i Say PvP takes no skill.

imho, PvE and PvP should be seperate, but then we'll have people complaing about that.

i'm not even gonna bother replying to all those that quoted me, cause frankly all you see is PvP and think it's the most challenging thing ever and flame the PvE'ers. but when the PvE'ers flame the PvP'ers they get all butthurt.

fallot · Jun 03, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

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Originally Posted by Replicant

seriously though, you have PvE'ers saying PvE takes skill while the PvP'ers say it doesn't. Then you have the PvP'ers saying PvP takes skill while the PvE'ers say it doesn't.

you think i'm biased? no.. i'm just talkin for most of the hardcore PvE'ers. YOu say PvE takes no skill, and i Say PvP takes no skill.

Its very easy to just "say" things without any grounding in reality. But thats besides the point, this discussion should be carried out in another thread, if at all.

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Originally Posted by Replicant

imho, PvE and PvP should be seperate, but then we'll have people complaing about that.

Ironically, the OPs suggestion is to increase the seperation between PvP and PvE. Ironically, you don't support it.

Da Cebuano · Jun 03, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

The problem I have w/ this is that PvP player are branching out and reaching over something they should stick their nose out of. You don't like pve chars having advantage over your pvp only char? then cry to anet about your pvp char being sucky and leave the **** our pve chars alone while we smash your limited asses in. Life is not fair, a pve char is much more customized than a pvp char, so why not have all the advantages of building up that char? I mean heck, pvp chars have access to ALL things unlocked, that itself is a HUGE advatage, as pve chars will only have skill they require.

Still I'm loving reading all these simpletons w/ their very limited scope of view. Seems like everythings got to be handed to them on a silver platter or its unfair. LoL, keep em coming boys, I really doubt the majority of these pro PVPers are really that good anyway, not that I can comment much on such things, but its clear that they're very limited.

OH and the OP's post is to PUT PVE CHAR AND PVP CHAR ON THE SAME LEVEL, not separate them, ironically, you corrected someone being wrong yourself.

B Ephekt · Jun 03, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by Tarun

What I do is my business, not yours, tyvm. :P

Statements like these only lend proof to my claims.

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It's already been summarized what PvP is, go read that post.

I've read it, it's just as irrelevant as the rest of your posts in this thread; nonsensical crap that has nothing to do with the situation at hand. Nobody really cares how you think Guild Wars stacks up to WoW or whatever, we're talking about issues for this game. GW will never be WoW, so either get over it or go play WoW.

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Originally Posted by Replicant

imho, PvE and PvP should be seperate, but then we'll have people complaing about that.

They're already seperate. The problem is, if you ban pve chars from pvping, most people will only have one slot for pvp-only characters. The solution isn't to just ban pve chars, it's to improve pvp-only so they're equal. That way everyone wins.

TheLordOfBlah · Jun 03, 2006, 10:11 PM // 22:11

PVP characters are limited to 1 set of armor because its made in 3 seconds.

PVE characters are not limited however they pay for it.

If people are bitching so much about this, make an armor crafter in PVP arenas for PVP only characters and make it cost faction.

Instead of starting FLAME WARZ "no you suck i wnat more armor >=(" "stfu my FOW armor is leeter than jooz", think of some ideas, its like listening to frickin cave men argue in this thread.

Zui · Jun 03, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Replicant

i'm not even gonna bother replying to all those that quoted me, cause frankly all you see is PvP and think it's the most challenging thing ever and flame the PvE'ers. but when the PvE'ers flame the PvP'ers they get all butthurt.

Clueless again. I signed this. I have 3 PvEs decked out for PvP, that have completed every mission and quest in the game(prophicies). I have well over 1 million(in ecto) in my storage vault. BTW I'm a PvEr who turned PvP after about 2 months of playing. Want to tell me I know nothing about PvE go ahead. No one has said PvE requires no skill, it simply requires less. It's a static enviroment. That's why. You can't make it dynamic no matter how much you try until you have a true AI that's just as smart as people - which at this point is impossible, and probably 50 years off for somthing remotely simmilar. PvP is dynamic - you're playing against other thinking, skilled players that are trying to beat you. Not dumb monsters.

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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

If people are bitching so much about this, make an armor crafter in PVP arenas for PVP only characters and make it cost faction.

Yeah, I'm never going to reroll my PvP charactar. Please have some understanding of what you're talking about before posting.

TheLordOfBlah · Jun 03, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Well then use your other slots for PVP chars. Oh thats right you already have 3 PVE chars... use them then.

Undivine · Jun 03, 2006, 11:26 PM // 23:26

*Pant Pant* Sorry I'm late. I had work.

Okay, so... this thread... Quite a problematic thread. I've thought about deleting posts left and right but I'm starting to think this thread cannot be salvaged. bilateralrope, I am very sorry, but I'm going to be closing this. Personally, I like your suggestion (and I'm not a PvPer), but that's neither here nor there. You guys have turned this thing into a rediculous flame-fest.

Closed.

Since the subject has come up, you can discuss PvP character benefits in this thread. Don't burn that one to the ground too.