Curse

generik · Jun 10, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Sup abs was -1 more dmg then major abs. did it make a huge difference? no. But the difference in price was just wow. And sword pommel of fort, there used to be a big difference between +29 and +30hp. 1 extra hp and it was a massive difference.

/notsigned

Why no?

Majors are -2, sups are -3. That is a 33% bonus.

Do we have a 33% increase in health bonuses as we go from major vigors to sups?

Farrell-Zander · Jun 10, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

If your not happy with only +9 health then just not buy the Sup Vigor.... It's as easy as that.

Tarun · Jun 10, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25

41 HP for a major.
50 HP for a superior.
9 HP difference. How is that really "superior"?

Spoony · Jun 10, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36

/signed

Lepton CFd · Jun 10, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Increase the +HP, even by 5 points, and the price would go up to 60-70k. I don't really see this as necessary, but I wouldn't really care if they did increase the health. Just another way for me to make money, by farming runes again ^^

Vahn Roi · Jun 10, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Everyone wants the biggest and the badist...the cost of Sup Vigor is as simple as that.

Besides, if they increased the health bonus of Sup Vigor, it would throw the whole concept of Sup Rune use out of wack.

/notsigned.

Avarre · Jun 10, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29

It's fine as it is, imo. Don't like it, don't get it. It's not like you'd gain an advantage if it was upped.

/unsigned

Zakarr · Jun 10, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Lower major vigor to 40 hp so then there is 10 hp diffrence.

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Bane of Worlds · Jun 10, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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Originally Posted by Riccari

/notsigned

I don't see a problem with it as 50. 'If it ain't broke don't fix it.'

exactly why fix something that is unnecessary
it would only waste the dev's time and at the sametime give everyone a free 3+ attribute which uses up 2 armor pieces
1 for the penalty of rune one
2 for the sup vig that is negating another sup rune with a penalty of -75
ruins balance and it would be changed back after a certain amount of time

art_ · Jun 10, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Up the drop rate please.

Bane of Worlds · Jun 10, 2006, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by art_

Up the drop rate please.

they already increased the drop rates for this rune

look for April 26 and look under runes

from http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...ve-2006-04.php
RUNES

* Increased probability of finding Superior Vigor and Superior Absorption runes.
* Changed new rare (gold) armor to only provide superior (gold) runes.
* Changed new uncommon (purple) armor to only provide major (purple) runes.
* As always, you must use an expert or superior salvage kit to extract a rune from armor. These changes will not affect loot that dropped prior to this update.

Greedy Gus · Jun 10, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by generik

Why no?

Majors are -2, sups are -3. That is a 33% bonus.

Do we have a 33% increase in health bonuses as we go from major vigors to sups?

50% bonus. lern2math

Evilsod · Jun 10, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

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Originally Posted by Eve The Sorceress

* Increased probability of finding Superior Vigor and Superior Absorption runes.

Yup, and i'll believe that when i see it. Seen about 300 Sup Absorptions since that update, never seen a Sup Vigour.

Helios · Jun 11, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

If 9 health is that big of a deal, you either need to change your playing style, use less attribute majors/superiors (as Ensign said previously), find a better group, or all of the above.

Joh · Jun 11, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik

Unbalance the game - what a bunch of crap!!!

Then the new Canthan armours with the Health bonuses has severely unbalanced the game. We're talking +10 HP difference to the Superior Rune of Vigor. The new armour has +35 Health bonus!

Balance argument has absolutely no ground to stand on!!!!

But to get those +35 hp, you have to give up the energy boost, or extra AL from other armor sets, which is indeed balancing.

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Bane of Worlds · Jun 11, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Yup, and i'll believe that when i see it. Seen about 300 Sup Absorptions since that update, never seen a Sup Vigour.

ummm it's on the archive page if you didn't look at that link on the original post
another thing is that superior vigs are being bought almost everyday
because there are new professions like the assassins and the ritualists who uses the vig runes on their armor and let's not forget that plenty of ppl are replacing or buying new armor and applying vig runes onto their armors
sup abs on the other hand are not in demand and it's supplies are still growing which have led to the constant lowering of it's value

one more thing, it says increased probability not a guarantee

-Loki- · Jun 11, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

The reason it's so expensive is it is the only superior rune that isn't bound to a class, so everyone wants one for their characters. This is why it's still so expensive even after the drop rate increase.

Maxiemonster · Jun 11, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

You don't only pay for 9 extra Health, but you pay for perfection. If you want to have a perfect character, you'll need a Superior Vigor. I agree, 9 Healh isn't great, but still, I have it on all 5 of my characters, just because I want them to be perfect.

And look at FoW Armor for example, that's very expensive too, but doesn't give you anything besides some (mostly lame) looks.

TheLordOfBlah · Jun 11, 2006, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by CartmanPT

/not signed

imo its ok at 50 hp

IMO, 9hp is not equal to 35k

Deathwingg00 · Jun 11, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

/not-signed

Instead, cap the prices of runes to something affordable.