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Priest Of Sin · Jun 16, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Perhaps you could classify them as SPELLS? Call me crazy for the WHACKO idea, but I for one know that rangers are the only class that use touches... no necro, with his low armor, is going to get right in the face of a warrior and say "Hit me! Now i'm going to poke you to death!". Or perhaps touch spells can cause exhaustion? Or maybe they just won't ignore armor anymore.

twicky_kid · Jun 16, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Rangers are used for the expertise and evade skills. Nothing to do with the armor class. Tormentors armor is a 5 armor difference from physical attacks.

They cannot get around any slow downs. Cripple shot cannot be blocked or evaded and r/n cannot remove hexes.

They are balanced but people are taking advantage of the chaos with this build in alliances. In any case a cordnated team will most likely win no matter what the team is.

Malice Black · Jun 16, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

lol another nerf thread..these get old

learn to counter its simple..like the post above stated they cant touch you if u cant move..they cant touch u if they are knocked down...if all else fails then quit PVP cause ya no good

BahamutKaiser · Jun 16, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

I have always disliked shadow and lifestealing damage, it underscores elemental damage so much, and lifestealing is damage plus health support. It would be nice if there were protection spells and counters particularly to lifestealing attacks, like a Mesmer enchantment or stance that reversed lifestealing. But trying to defend against life stealing in partucular is about as effective as bringing mantras of lightning or fire resistance, there is a chance that skill woln't even be used.

I don't think there is anything wrong with touch ranger, I just hope they come up with some better counters for it, not just touch rangers, but blood magic in general, Necro spikes are pretty heinous as well. Everything should have a viable counter and a build which totaly dominates it.

I don't PvP enough to test builds regularly, but it is my impression that Backfire and Soul Leech would be rather effective against this build, since they are trying to spam skills with low recast and energy cost, and disable skills would make thier highly recastable skills unavailable for quite some time, like diversion. These arn't even genre specific builds, they are good against all casters, expecially spammers, perhaps there already are counters, people just arn't making good use of them.

NatalieD · Jun 16, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

I don't PvP enough to test builds regularly, but it is my impression that Backfire and Soul Leech would be rather effective against this build, since they are trying to spam skills with low recast and energy cost, and disable skills would make thier highly recastable skills unavailable for quite some time, like diversion. These arn't even genre specific builds, they are good against all casters, expecially spammers, perhaps there already are counters, people just arn't making good use of them.

Backfire and Soul Leech don't do anything to them, since they aren't using spells.

This thread is silly. Touch rangers don't need to be nerfed, and even if they did, making the touches into a spells is a lame way to do it. When something is overpowered (and I still don't think touch rangers are, I'm just saying), you should bring it back into line, not eradicate it completely.

BowLad21 · Jun 17, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Touch rangers do not need a nerf. If the primary touch skills are turned into spells, too many areas will become 55 able for A-net to be happy.

Navaros · Jun 17, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Touch Rangers do not need a nerf and should not be nerfed. I suggest to leave them alone and stop the nerfing madness.

Former Ruling · Jun 17, 2006, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by BowLad21

Touch rangers do not need a nerf. If the primary touch skills are turned into spells, too many areas will become 55 able for A-net to be happy.

Whether their a skill a spell doesn't matter in that situation...its still life stealing dmg so rapes a 55 in 1 hit.

Touch Rangers have been a funny little niche for RA and such forever.

Their only remotely popular right now because a majority of the people in AB's just run around crazy like and get pwnt by touch rangers easy - like in RA.

AB is like a 12 man RA, that wasnt fixed by needing groups.

Touch Rangers are Pwnt by alot of stuff. Usually they only have Troll and the vamp touches/bites for healing, Whirling for defense, and no sense of Hex Removal.

NatalieD · Jun 17, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Whether their a skill a spell doesn't matter in that situation...its still life stealing dmg so rapes a 55 in 1 hit.

I think he meant because of Spellbreaker.

Undivine · Jun 17, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

We really don't need yet another thread on this subject. I personally don't like Touch Rangers either, but there is no point in making multiple threads on it. Try this link.

Incidentally, have you read the scribe at the official web site? Check out the one for June 15, 2006 and scroll down. I'm curious what they might mean by this:

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Originally Posted by The Scribe, June 15, 2006

Undoubtedly one faction or another is developing the perfect counterbalance for these powerful fighters, but as of now, they are a force to be reckoned with.

Anyway, this thread is closed.