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Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Really simple actually, have titles for total faction earned, You can be a freind of the Luxons/Kurzics, and show off your faction spent with them, why not for Balthazar?

I understand that you can't gain any more faction once everything is unlocked but seeing as there are new expansions every 6 months and new skills constantly being added, then maxing out faction isn't too big of an issue.

Thus I present my title!

100k - Alligned with Balthazar

500k - Adherent of Balthazar

1000k - Devotee of Balthazar

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 12, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Balthazar Faction & Shards ~ Amber/Jadite Title ~ Grenth Faction & Ectos

Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

That thread talks about RENAMING balths faction to heroes faction and does not say anything about titles for heroes faction.

I want titles for faction gained in RA/TA/HoH, regardless of name...

Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 08:14 AM // 08:14

I fail to understand how this could not be an valid suggestion at all. I would like to thank the one person who responded to my post BUT DID NOT READ IT PROPERLY.

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 12, 2006, 08:16 AM // 08:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sevanyr

I fail to understand how this could not be an valid suggestion at all. I would like to thank the one person who responded to my post BUT DID NOT READ IT PROPERLY.

Honestly, I think the person who did not "DID NOT READ IT PROPERLY" is you, not me.

The 5th idea presented in that thread is not my idea, I merely placed it in there because it was suggested by someone.

I highly recommend that you carefully read through the thread that is presented in the link above again, before you proceed to jump any conclusions again.

Thank you.

CoopaTroopa · Jun 12, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19

I don't see anything wrong with this idea, but I think that there are more important things that they need to impliment into the game before they add something like this.

Zui · Jun 12, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19

Won't work.

Balthazar faction hits a cap when you unlock everything. Kurzick/Luxon faction does not. Essentialy for people to reach the highest teirs they'd need to buy multiple chapters(ok competitive PvPers are already going to do so... but your casual gamer won't).

so /notsigned

However a title system for unlocks would work.

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 12, 2006, 08:22 AM // 08:22

As discussed in this thread:
Balthazar Faction & Shards ~ Amber/Jadite Title ~ Grenth Faction & Ectos

There is a suggested method for Balthazar's Faction to be redeemed into Obsidian Shards, which means there will be no limit on how much Balthazar's Faction you can earn.

Plus, it is also suggested that the player gets a title based on how much Balthazar's Faction that they redeemed.

Zui · Jun 12, 2006, 09:35 AM // 09:35

The cap being removed from the ideas on your thread will only work if the Shard reward is implimented. Since this would encourage people farming RA, or tanking their guilds rating, climbing to say 400ish, then tanking their rating again, so that just won't work IMHO.

It is also suggested that Baltahzar Faction go PvE-Only, and existing Balthazar faction be changed to Heroe's Faction, which if implimented will leave us in the same situation as is now.

So until there's a suggestion put forth that won't encourage farming RA/GvG(since they're the only places where you can be sure to not get quality opponents ok... there's HA too) for money, and also get rid of the faction cap, there's just no hope for a faciton based balthazar faction title, IMHO.

Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 09:55 AM // 09:55

No, You said to change balthazars faction to be something earned elsewhere and giving titles for that, your so called heroes faction (balths faction renamed) had no mention of titles.

Now as for the cap, there are new expansions every 6 months, as it stands it is possible to hit 1mil and still have room for pve unlocks. I haven't done the exact number exactly but the max is around 1.4million.

People who are maxed out currently can earn this title when the expansion comes out. Just like how the elite skills track can't be maxed yet.

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 12, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sevanyr

No, You said to change balthazars faction to be something earned elsewhere and giving titles for that, your so called heroes faction (balths faction renamed) had no mention of titles.

First of all, it is not my idea.

5. Current Balthazar's Faction renamed to Heroes Faction (PvP unlocks)
As suggested by Dougal Kronik, the current Balthazar's Faction is to be renamed into something else, and these factions are to be used for PvP unlocks.

"As suggested by Dougal Kronik"

As you can see, the idea was brought up by Dougal Kronik.
My original idea did not include his idea, I merely attached his idea to the first post.

I think I better remove his idea since it caused confusion for those who cannot read and understand properly.

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REQUEST: Can any mod passing by rename the title please? Thank you.

1. Balthazar's Faction Rewards
- Use Balthazar's Faction to redeem Obsedian Shards
- Only redeemable in Fissure of Woe

Why?
- Obsedian Shards are found in Fissure of Fow
- Fissure of Fow is domain of Balthazar
- Those who unlocked everything can continue to earn Balthazar's faction
- Bridge the gap between PvE and PvP

2a. Balthazar's Titles
Allow players to gain titles based on how many factions they have earned with:
- Balthazar
- Grenth

For example, redeemed:
- 100,000 Balthazar faction : Balthazar's Footman
- 200,000 Balthazar faciton : Balthazar's Squire
- 500,000 Balthazar faciton : Balthazar's Knight

- 100,000 Grenth's faction : Grenth's Apprentice
- 200,000 Grenth's faction : Grenth's Scribe
- 500,000 Grenth's faction : Grenth's Reaper (idea contributed by Spoony)

(name of titles and numbers are used as an example, do feel free to come up with better names and figures)

2b. Amber / Jadite Collector's Titles
Allow players to gain titles based on how many Amber / Jadites they have redeemed.

For example, redeemed:
- 100 Amber / Jadite : Amber / Jadite Scavanger
- 200 Amber / Jadite : Amber / Jadite Collector
- 500 Amber / Jadite : Amber / Jadite Accumulator
- 1,000 Amber / Jadite : Amber / Jadite Lover
- 2,000 Amber / Jadite : Amber / Jadite Horder
- 5,000 Amber / Jadite : Fanatical Amber / Jadite Horder

3. Grenth's Faction
- Grenth's Faction be added
- Grenth's faction can be used to redeem Globs of Ectoplasm.
- Only redeemable in the Underworld

Why?
- Globs of Ectoplasm drops in Underworld
- Underworld is domain of Grenth
- Promote players to venture forth into the Underworld as a team to complete quests

How to earn Grenth's faction?
- all the quests available in the Underworld

4. Amendment to Balthazar's Faction
As suggested by Dougal Kronik, allow Balthazar's Faction to be gained as quest rewards in Fissure of Woe, since Fissure of Woe is a domain of Balthazar.

5. Current Balthazar's Faction renamed to Heroes Faction (PvP unlocks)
As suggested by Dougal Kronik, the current Balthazar's Faction is to be renamed into something else, and these factions are to be used for PvP unlocks.

Polls:
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Do you like these ideas and wish to see them implemented? Yes / No
1. Able to use Balthazar's Faction to redeem Obsedian Shards
Yes (6)
=====
Tuoba Hturt Eht, Replicant, Dougal Kronik, Gonzo, Undivine, Spoony

No (3)
=====
Thom Bangalter, Terra Xin, Blitzy

2. Earn titles based on amount of Balthazar's & Grenth's Faction redeemed
Yes (9)
=====
Tuoba Hturt Eht, Replicant, Terra Xin, Dougal Kronik, Gonzo, Blitzy, Mister Muhkuh, Undivine, Spoony

No (1)
=====
Thom Bangalter

2b. Amber / Jadite Collector's Titles
Yes (2)
=====
Tuoba Hturt Eht, Spoony

No (0)
=====

3. Addition of Grenth's Faction
Yes (6)
=====
Tuoba Hturt Eht, Replicant, Dougal Kronik, Gonzo, Undivine, Spoony

No (4)
=====
Thom Bangalter, Terra Xin, Evilsod, Blitzy

4. Balthazar's Faction awarded in Fissure of Woe quests
Yes (5)
=====
Tuoba Hturt Eht, Dougal Kronik, Gonzo, Undivine, Spoony

No (1)
=====
Blitzy

5. Current Balthazar's Faction change to Heroes Faction (PvP unlocks)
Yes (2)
=====
Dougal Kronik, Spoony

No (0)
=====

Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

The balthazars faction that's renamed has no mention of a title! Good lord! THAT'S WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!

I dont care about that system, I dont care about how he's changing this and that! I just want a simple little title that shows how much balthazars faction I've redeemed, not this hero faction he wants to rename it to or what your turning it into!

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 12, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sevanyr

The balthazars faction that you've renamed has no mention of a title! Good lord! THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!

First of all, I did not suggest for it to be renamed, it was Dougal Kronik.

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I dont care about your system, I dont care about how your changing this and that! I just want a simple little title that shows how much balthazars faction I've redeemed, not this hero faction you want to rename it to or what your turning it into!

Again, if you would take some time to read properly, I did not propose to change it, it was Dougal Kronik.

Fine.
I am going to edit that thread now.

Waste of my time trying to explain things to an individual who cannot read and understand properly..

Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Excuse me, here you come shoving this large and unwanted idea into my thread, highjacking it, I dont want all of that, I just want a title system for balthazars faction as it exists now, No fancy changes, none of that, I dont care who came up with it, point is it has nothing to do with this idea whatsoever!

edit: You can imagine I'm very frustrated by you and that so called idea. It has no mention for for titles earned through PvP play other than heroes faction (for pvp unlocks, WHICH IS WHAT IM EXPLICITLY TALKING ABOUT), and you mention nothing about titles for that!

Is that so hard to understand?

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 12, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Your idea has already been suggested before, in the thread that I mentioned.

If you can read:

2a. Balthazar's Titles
Allow players to gain titles based on how many factions they have earned with:
- Balthazar
- Grenth

For example, redeemed:
- 100,000 Balthazar faction : Balthazar's Footman
- 200,000 Balthazar faciton : Balthazar's Squire
- 500,000 Balthazar faciton : Balthazar's Knight

I have removed the 5th idea since it was not my idea originally, and I see that it caused confusion for those people like you.

Further more, your idea did not mention how people who have unlocked everything are able to continue to earn Balthazar's Faction, in my thread, I proposed such an idea.

Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Talking with you is like talking to a brick wall. I will try once more, The NEW balthazars faction you are proposing has nothing to do with heroes faction. You've not shown any respect and you've failed to see how Hero's faction is NOT balthazars faction.

I'll try and make this as neutral as I can: I want a title for PVP unlocks.

Please, try to understand?

Furthermore, I would appreciate you remove your allusions to me and this thread from the other thread, or I will have a mod look into it, I've not called you one name, yet you come here calling me blind and "people like you" when you've not understood me correctly.

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 12, 2006, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sevanyr

Talking with you is like talking to a brick wall.

Actually, you are the one that refuses to see things clearly.

Quote:

The NEW balthazars faction you are proposing has nothing to do with heroes faction.

I did not propose any "NEW Balthazar's Faction".
The Balthazar's Faction mentioned in my thread is the same old Balthazar's Faction we earn in PvP Battles.

Quote:

You've not shown any respect and you've failed to see how Hero's faction is NOT balthazars faction.

"Heroes Faction" is not my idea, it was suggested by Dougal Kronik.

I have removed that idea since it caused so much confusion in you.

Quote:

I'll try and make this as neutral as I can: I want a title for PVP unlocks.

Please, try to understand?

Your idea is already covered in that thread I have mentioned.

Again, you did not mention how to deal with players who have already unlocked everything they can using Balthazar's Faction. The number of things you can unlock using Balthazar's Faction is limited, and once that limit is reached, that player can no longer continue to earn Balthazar's Faction.

In my thread, I have suggested that Balthazar's Faction can be used to redeem Obsidian Shards.
With such an implementation, it would mean that players can continue to earn Balthazar's Faction, even if they have unlocked everything.

Sevanyr · Jun 12, 2006, 10:45 AM // 10:45

I would highly suggest you change your posts to sound more respectfull instead of alluding to me negatively in the later ones.

I dont want to use pvp unlocks for shards, I do not want grenths faction, I do not care for any other change in the system.

All that I want is a title detailing, how much faction has been spent redeeming pvp unlocks.

100k
500k
1000k.

It has nothing to do with the fow, the underworld or anything pve based.

natus · Jun 12, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht

2a. Balthazar's Titles
Allow players to gain titles based on how many factions they have earned with:
- Balthazar

For example, redeemed:
- 100,000 Balthazar faction : Balthazar's Footman
- 200,000 Balthazar faciton : Balthazar's Squire
- 500,000 Balthazar faciton : Balthazar's Knight

Yeah.

I like the idea, but it would'nt work because(this is said already..) there's a cap to balthazar faction when you unlock everything.

Navaros · Jun 12, 2006, 11:28 AM // 11:28

Remove the Balthazaar faction cap (should have never been put in in the first place) and add those titles. Exchanging Balth factions for shards should also be possible.

/signed