Curse

shardfenix · Jun 27, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

1: Stop crying
/notsigned for nerfing the mechanics of melee combat.

2: You're right, assassins are overpowered. Their disadvantage is that they can't kill you if you...kite. Or if you're near an ally, horns of the ox doesn't knock you down.

3: Hammers are broken. 150 damage on a crushing blow is just rediculous. I have seen monks die in team arenas with 3 hits from a hammer war. No one build should be able to outpower any caster class in 4 seconds, while it prevents them from kiting.

Mistermagoo · Jun 27, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39

I say give the tanks more armor, more health, give us a hell of a challenge in pvp. Easy enough to kill as it is.

Hockster · Jun 27, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42

It's no different than when a caster starts a spell and the target moves out of range. The spell still goes through.

BahamutKaiser · Jun 27, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Teleporting can't be used to advance enought to even be mentioned, let alone the fact that it only gets you to the target, only one teleport helps the Assassin chase as well.

This thread underscores the value of a water elementist, 66% speed reduction is more than any speed buff can overcome, and multiple Ice attacks make it nearly futile to remove Ice Hexes. The only problem here is lack of recognition for available counters and proper use of them. Ward agains't foes, Deep Freeze, and traps, can make a world of difficulty for even groups of melee units, including Touch Rangers. If that isn't consistant enough for you than mix caltropes and Return to your build from Assassins Shadow Arts Attribute, it is certain to make your average unit almost more than difficult to catch.

We also have balanced stance and Ward of Stability to counter knockdown builds, going without is accepting weakness, your vulnerable to those attacks because you chose not to counter them, not because balanced counters don't exsist for melee.

The games balance doesn't revolve around what you use, what is available does.

Zui · Jun 27, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

3: Hammers are broken. 150 damage on a crushing blow is just rediculous. I have seen monks die in team arenas with 3 hits from a hammer war. No one build should be able to outpower any caster class in 4 seconds, while it prevents them from kiting.

Right... This is why blinding flash, draw conditions, mend condition, protective spirit, warrior hate hexes and so on exist?

Descent players don't get uberpwned by hammer warriors like you're suggesting, only bad players, like those who constantly get rolled by IWAY...

You're pretty offbase with assassins too... Perhaps you should add a 4 and make it about how touch rangers are 1337 and need to be nerfed?

Doomlord_Slayermann · Jun 27, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by Zui

Right... This is why blinding flash, draw conditions, mend condition, protective spirit, warrior hate hexes and so on exist?

To add to what Zui is saying, hammer attacks are slow enough to easily hault a massive combo. All it means is that the guy with the hammer needs to be given some attention. Left alone... ow.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jun 27, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23

hehe, flllllllaaaaaaaammmmeeeeeeee atttaaaccck, lol I need to go to sleep I am getting bored, anyway on topic, there are many times where my sin was chasing down someone particularly a tank, and I would throw up GPS it would do the hitting animation, and it would hit but the guy would be a ways ahead of me. Also I have used teleportation skills a number of times to cathc up like this, I hit em with GPS, they run, I AoD and HoO them, then FS and TF, GG.

Lets Get to Healing · Jun 27, 2006, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Snare
Blind
Blocking and Evading Spells
Kiting

Now, Lets get to nerfing rangers. i mean come on! They shoot arrows from WAY TOO FAR!

Nevin · Jun 27, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Thats just animation lag. The second you made contact he hit you, the swing happens afterwards.

The milk shake · Jun 27, 2006, 07:48 AM // 07:48

/notsigned, if they were to nerf melee, they might as well nerf everything else, like spell interrupts, boon prot, protective spirit, and even traps

Seissor · Jun 27, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

theres like a tonne of cheap easy skills to block and evade or blind ur foe or make them miss, theres only like 1-2 to evade spell damage

/notsigned

blood spike > iway

Arkantos · Jun 27, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25

theres no problem here. This is what happens: He's RIGHT behind you, stops to hit but you keep moving. If anything its unfair to melee. You can keep running but we have to stop. You have the advantage unless their using a speed boost like sprint.

makosi · Jun 27, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

/signed.

Warriors DO NOT have to be close to hit you. I always considered it a bug but its part of the game mechanic. And yes, you can kite but that means you can cast shit because your running. gg.

Nobody will approve of this fix because they love their wammos.

curtman · Jun 27, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

/notsigned. If any thing the assassin should have a slightly faster attack speed. As mentioned earlier, it is animation lag.

The hit is registered based on the position and then rendered.

Also if melee was nerfed like this, melee classes would not pvp. That means more touch rangers. If you have a problem with melee classes, then stay in the back where every nonmelee class is suppose to be and should be.

nomercy · Jun 27, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

/notsigned

learn2play

ZenRgy · Jun 27, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

I agree with it's the server / client delay. Stop crying, most monks I see in RA are quite hard to kill without using a skill like warriors cunning, healing touch + guardian pretty much keeps us at bay. You're playing a monk expect to be jumped, and tbh you should be healing rather than running.

/notsigned

Aera · Jun 27, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

If you want to make the melee class pointless, do that. Kiting works well enough as it does now, if you change it, all you have to do is run a bit and you won't get hit...that's a bit ghey don't you think?