Curse

Meiludor The Quick · Jul 06, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Lets hear what everyone has to say about this-

Sometimes you just cannot get a group, maybe you are in an odd outpost, or u just feel like questing at ood hours. Well Henchmen to the rescue, maybe? I know i've been annoyed at not being able to issue them a simple command like /wait and not have them attack until i ctr + click. Or here's a good one. Let see how many apprecaite this- I'm looking to cap an elite in Mineral Springs, no groups interested, few groups around in general, so i figure it's an easy enough task, i'll just grab some hench, get my skill and be done with it. Well, after clearing most of mineral springs and not finding my boss, i head back to an uncleared area, somewhere along the way, 2 of my hench got caught between a rock, going back and forth. I didn't realize they were not in my party untill I died and my active hench died. I click on them only to realize they are caught in some bizzare loop and will only go back and forth, the healer and little thom i think. Anyway, since they are not under any threat they won't die, and i have no way to kill them, like /suicide or somesuch.

As painful as it was, i hightailed it back to Granite very upset and angry, a good hour or so wasted over something stupid like that! Let see if we can't get anet to add in some useful hench commands, hell even in PUG PvE groups you sometimes need a hench or two, how usefull would commands be eh?

RTSFirebat · Jul 06, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20

This needs to be moved to the suggestions forum. And its been suggested before

Carth` · Jul 06, 2006, 06:34 AM // 06:34

Yeah happened to me once. I took a video of it because I planned to send it to ANet in an angry email, but in the end I couldn't be bothered.

I was in the Maguuma jungle with a hench team, on that really long quest that makes you rezone loads. I was nearing the end of it, when everybody starts dying. I decide we should run, and me and Reyna make it out alive. But I had some poison on me, and no self-heal, so I died.

That was how we all got separated. Now Reyna, who did have a res sig, starts running towards Alesia, in theory to resurrect her, but then she goes too far from my corpse, and runs back. Repeat ad nauseum. There were also no monsters near enough, so she wouldn't die.

I went to the shop and left it running, but she was still running backwards and forwards when I came back, so I had to close it and start that quest all over again.

prodigy ming · Jul 06, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50

/signed
had that happen to me numerous times. I don't see how a command like that would affect gameplay besides pleasing alot of angry players.

The Great Al · Jul 06, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

it happened to me...the rotscale area, frozen soil (or whatever prevents resses) was constantly being put down, me and 6 henchies were in that area, and the healer was JUST out of the aggro circle. after a few minutes, i just had to restart

Slainster · Jul 06, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08

/signed.. cant say how many times this happend to me too !

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 06, 2006, 07:29 AM // 07:29

/signed, I would suicide the henchies for the fun of it MUAHAHAHA Hecnhies going boom=years of fun

Tark Alkerk · Jul 06, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

/signed
the amount of time the henchies have left me standing is to many.

Sjeng · Jul 06, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25

some other topics on this. Might be a good idea to merge some:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3013561

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=32244

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=19768

Silent Kitty · Jul 06, 2006, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Sorry, Anet doesn't care about the henchmen. Many people here can play this game blindfolded and hands tied on their backs, and think henchmen are way to smart already. You are talking to deaf ears. Forget it. This game has the most stupid henchmen of all internet games. Get used to it.

RTSFirebat · Jul 06, 2006, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

Sorry, Anet doesn't care about the henchmen. Many people here can play this game blindfolded and hands tied on their backs, and think henchmen are way to smart already. You are talking to deaf ears. Forget it. This game has the most stupid henchmen of all internet games. Get used to it.

lol are all your posts always full of so much rage?

I've seen you posts loads of times and your always right to the point aren't you. The henchmen are only as stupid as their programming, so yes A.net may or maynot care about making them better.

But we don't know if they do or not, so lets not jump the gun...

Silent Kitty · Jul 06, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

lol are all your posts always full of so much rage?

I've seen you posts loads of times and your always right to the point aren't you. The henchmen are only as stupid as their programming, so yes A.net may or maynot care about making them better.

But we don't know if they do or not, so lets not jump the gun...

Politics is not my forte. Our henchmen are stupid. The healer still crushes your face (Standing right on top of you)when she has to ressurect you. They still die in about 3 seconds flat, when you encounter a spirit rift spamming boss. Anet can make them smarter, just like the aggro mobs already are, but they force you to stay in empty towns waiting for an occasional player to come along.
I deleted my healer in Hell's precipe, because I didn't have to be there. It was pontless, and I couldn't do it with hench.

schutz · Jul 06, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Happened to me with thom and alesia to before, i was on a run and was outside citadel near the ice golems and they just stood there running back and forth so i said i will leave and hope that they move, luckily they did and it wasnt such a waste of time but it almost was and needs to be resolved.

NJudson · Jul 06, 2006, 11:10 AM // 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

Politics is not my forte. Our henchmen are stupid. The healer still crushes your face (Standing right on top of you)when she has to ressurect you. They still die in about 3 seconds flat, when you encounter a spirit rift spamming boss. Anet can make them smarter, just like the aggro mobs already are, but they force you to stay in empty towns waiting for an occasional player to come along.
I deleted my healer in Hell's precipe, because I didn't have to be there. It was pontless, and I couldn't do it with hench.

What would be interesting is if henchman's AI improved or progressed the further along in the game, relatively the same as a typical human player. But as mentioned before that isn't anything anyone would do though.

Shivan- · Jul 06, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

I deleted my healer in Hell's precipe, because I didn't have to be there. It was pontless, and I couldn't do it with hench.

then you didn't try hard enough, i did it + bonus with henchies, it just takes time and patience.

Silent Kitty · Jul 06, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32

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Originally Posted by Shivan-

then you didn't try hard enough, i did it + bonus with henchies, it just takes time and patience.

It was a spike healer. What is more simple than that? These titans did more damage, to my henchies, than I could heal. But we're getting off-topic. The OP wants henchies to commit suicide on command

/not signed

Avarre · Jul 06, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33

Henching Hell's in only a matter of slowly drawing one group at a time from the portal area. Longbows ftw.

Šiljo · Jul 06, 2006, 01:01 PM // 13:01

lol i got the same bug as u meilodor onetime...and i went mental...
got the sam thing in dreadnoughts drift when i went to cap FoC...3 hours wasted cause of stupid hench...

bpphantom · Jul 06, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18

During a zerg rush on the "kidnapped son" mission everyone but the Spirit hench wiped. But he was out of aggro range and so we lay there watching him move to rez our healer, (real person). He'd move close then turn and run away again before he drew aggro. Repeat ad nauseum for around 15 minutes.

We (my buddy and I) were sorely tempted to just map back and do it again but I loathe that mission with such bile that I would not leave. At this point we only had a couple of lvl15 bowmen and a lvl15 cleric left amongst the smattering of lvl7 and 8's so I hated the thought of doing that meat grinder again.

Eventually, after the aforementioned 15 minutes, the mobs moved and aggro'd on the Spirit hench and he sucked dirt so we could all rez and finish the quest

We honestly couldn't believe that there wasn't a command to kill you henches or to force a res of at least yourself.

WasAGuest · Jul 06, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

Doing mission X a certain way isn't the point of the thread though; the point is the poor henchies being as dumb as rocks.
Anet claims they want the henchies to be below player abilities so people will group. Has any Anet rep actually attempted a PuG lately? Besides the jerks that waste your time by leaving 30 seconds into the mission, or the second they get their cap, or run off real fast to unlock a part of a map and pulling five groups of aggro on the rest of the group... I've gotten to the point of hating all things tied to PuGs.
Guildies are burned out on almost the whole franchise and rarely log in. A few guildies enjoyed doing chest runs here and there, but the drops have gotten so bad they can't break even on the cost of keys, they quit. Others found their farming areas nerfed, they quit... that leaves some of us with henchies. And they are too dumb to play the game succesfully unless we go cookie cutter. meh

We need better henchies to make up for the lack of players wanting to play.