Curse

Symeon · Nov 06, 2005, 07:57 AM // 07:57

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Originally Posted by carnivore

your "shadow" sounds like a pet.

indeed.

Symeon · Nov 06, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59

No matter how much you edit this it's still gonna sound like a mixture between a necro, a warrior, a ranger - and wait, the other classes too.

thirtypercent · Nov 06, 2005, 08:20 AM // 08:20

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

No matter how much you edit this it's still gonna sound like a mixture between a necro, a warrior, a ranger - and wait, the other classes too.

there will be no classes that will not be of slight similarity of the 6 existing classes.

also,
a ranger does not influence the damage and health of the pet unless it has rank in beast mastery.
as for a shadow master, the amount of damage dealt and the amount of health is directly proportional to the masters'.
and most players in pvp right now either use pets just for them to die or stand way back and smite on the pets or just get energy through the pet. people seldom use their pets to fight along with them primarily.
for a shadow master, shadow will definitely be prominent and of more significance. they deal damage together with the master.

Symeon · Nov 06, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22

Great, so now you can just take a team of 8 shadow masters to tombs, make it 16 and whoop iways and all the other teams out there
Well maybe 7 shadow masters and 1 healer, or 6 shadows and 2 healer. In any case it's a bit too powerful.

thirtypercent · Nov 06, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

Great, so now you can just take a team of 8 shadow masters to tombs, make it 16 and whoop iways and all the other teams out there
Well maybe 7 shadow masters and 1 healer, or 6 shadows and 2 healer. In any case it's a bit too powerful.

doh. every build has a counter to it. iway is easy to counter. ballers are easy to counter. spikers are easy to counter. and of course this would be easy to counter too well think about it there all melee and smiting would own them.

thirtypercent · Nov 06, 2005, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by benmanhaha

it sounds cool to me. alhtough the skilld definatly need to be balanced, for example i dont know what i think about the "when this skill is on your skill bar" stuff.

its like a permanent boost effect. doesnt have to be casted but takes up a slot in skill bar.

Symeon · Nov 06, 2005, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by thirtypercent

doh. every build has a counter to it. iway is easy to counter. ballers are easy to counter. spikers are easy to counter. and of course this would be easy to counter too well think about it there all melee and smiting would own them.

Iway is not easily counterable. That's that lot, with their pets. Now here, We've got the shadow build - 6 of them, with shadows that are a lot more powerful than pets. Then just let these shadows go S/W and they can take i will avenge you, and whoop ass. And they've got two healers to heal them. No way am I gonna see that.

thirtypercent · Nov 06, 2005, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

Iway is not easily counterable. That's that lot, with their pets. Now here, We've got the shadow build - 6 of them, with shadows that are a lot more powerful than pets. Then just let these shadows go S/W and they can take i will avenge you, and whoop ass. And they've got two healers to heal them. No way am I gonna see that.

hmm. u haf a point there. ok i know, when shadows die, there will not be any corpse (cos well umm.. theyre shadows) so iway will not work on them? and an order necro would not work on it because shadows deal dark damage.

Symeon · Nov 06, 2005, 08:53 AM // 08:53

hmm ok, that ends my worries, but look at these two teams.

Team 1=6 iway warriors, with pets, and two order necros
Team 2=6 shadow masters, with shadows and two order necros

Shadows are still stronger than than the pets, but perhaps the shadows would get kinda beaten in the battle. The pets are out of the equation, so we have

iway wwarriors, order necros - shadow masters, two order necros, remnants of shadows
I'm not sure who would win, shadow masters or warriors, but looking at if they are equal then the shadow team will probably win.

thirtypercent · Nov 06, 2005, 09:20 AM // 09:20

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

hmm ok, that ends my worries, but look at these two teams.

Team 1=6 iway warriors, with pets, and two order necros
Team 2=6 shadow masters, with shadows and two order necros

Shadows are still stronger than than the pets, but perhaps the shadows would get kinda beaten in the battle. The pets are out of the equation, so we have

iway wwarriors, order necros - shadow masters, two order necros, remnants of shadows
I'm not sure who would win, shadow masters or warriors, but looking at if they are equal then the shadow team will probably win.

that would be one nice fight.

asd334 · Nov 07, 2005, 07:49 AM // 07:49

I LIKE it i puposed something very similar its a very good idea

thirtypercent · Nov 08, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15

updated

nihilous · Nov 09, 2005, 01:04 AM // 01:04

I like the class, tis a nice idea.

Big swords and scythes are 2 of my fav weapons

imagine if this was a class in gw, there would be an ungodly number of SM named sephiroth and cloud

thirtypercent · Nov 09, 2005, 07:47 AM // 07:47

what do u guys think about the giant sword skills i added?

pagansaint · Nov 09, 2005, 07:58 AM // 07:58

King, except that IWAY only works on dead allies.

A shadow is summoned, like a minion, hence no corpse, no ally'd health bar. No IWAY trigger.

Orders base off physical damage. Like he said....

Which helps pets but not the shadows.

That makes it even more attractive in ways, since it compensates for the increased damage from the shadow to keep it from being ungodly powerful.

Solid contribution as far as player made classes go, keep working up some skills for it, most attributes have 20 some skills each

Symeon · Nov 09, 2005, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by pagansaint

King, except that IWAY only works on dead allies.

A shadow is summoned, like a minion, hence no corpse, no ally'd health bar. No IWAY trigger.

That makes it even more attractive in ways, since it compensates for the increased damage from the shadow to keep it from being ungodly powerful.

Solid contribution as far as player made classes go, keep working up some skills for it, most attributes have 20 some skills each

meh
the shadow masters can still use on the other shadow masters :P