Curse

SpaceGh057 · May 05, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

/signed

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Originally Posted by hellprowler

First off, suggesting to Anet to make it more fair without an actual legitimate solution (no Favor solution is not an actual solution), is not productive at all.

How about back to the favor system, which, although bitched about, makes perfect sense, in my opinion...
Guild Wars, just the name says "PvP"

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Originally Posted by hellprowler

Second off, you paid for Factions content yes, but you never paid for the Elite missions, you paid for the potential to access those Elite Missions (thanks Sekkira I stole your quote <3).

Yes, paying for Factions content is the same as paying for elite missions, tell me how this isn't so.
When you buy a game, you pay the developers to be given access to their product. As Factions is the product, you have paid to play the elite missions.

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Originally Posted by hellprowler

If I was a Taiwanese player in prophecies, would I cry "zomg I can't access FoW and UW I DESERVE TO ACCESS THEM WHAAAA"? No I wouldn't.

This sort of whining has been around since the FPE...
There isn't any reason behind, just bitching...

But, unfortunately, the two coincide...it is a good comparision, but, slightly off, in my opinion.
However, this one, people get access for PvPing, where in Factions, most people will never get the ability to play in the elite missions.

aron searle · May 05, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58

Signed.

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Originally Posted by Rukmedes

Now, allowing everyone to compete in these missions would make the name "Elite missions" totally retarded, kind of like you.

SoumaAyame · May 05, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Please don't buy this game if you aren't willing to compete in it.

Divinus Stella · May 05, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13

/signed

I dont want to be part of a massive grind faction farming lemming alliance, but i also want to play the high level areas.

Rogier · May 05, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20

/signed

IGN: monkie mens
region: europe
age: 14
guild: DD

Str0b0 · May 05, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

/signed

I knew this was going to be aq bad idea and posted as such a long time ago. Please make the access less restricted. The top two alliances only? Come on. It would be better to set a faction cap on the missions and allow any alliance with such and such amount of faction to access the missions.

hellprowler · May 05, 2006, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by SpaceGh057

How about back to the favor system, which, although bitched about, makes perfect sense, in my opinion...
Guild Wars, just the name says "PvP"

It doesn't really, if people want access to elite PvE lands, then shouldn't the logical choice be to unlock it somehow during PvE? I think the current solution is a great way, PvE and PvP, two possible ways to unlock the elite missions.

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Yes, paying for Factions content is the same as paying for elite missions, tell me how this isn't so.
When you buy a game, you pay the developers to be given access to their product. As Factions is the product, you have paid to play the elite missions.

So back to the Taiwanese player, since I paid for Prophecies, I paid to play FoW and UW then? So I have the right to bitch to ANet because no one in my region is good enough to hold Halls? No I don't have that right, and neither do you people. (I'm not actually a Taiwanese player, just clarifying that)

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This sort of whining has been around since the FPE...
There isn't any reason behind, just bitching...

But, unfortunately, the two coincide...it is a good comparision, but, slightly off, in my opinion.
However, this one, people get access for PvPing, where in Factions, most people will never get the ability to play in the elite missions.

Rukmedes post covers this point. The purpose of Elite missions is not for EVERYONE to play them, simple as that.

qwe4rty · May 05, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Aren't yall missing content by not PvPing?

Six String Samurai · May 05, 2006, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, I post this as the leader of The Lotus Alliance. We have held house zu heltzer for only 2 days thus far...and in my honest opinion we have no problem with taking it back and holding it again.

To any and all that ask we will make the kurzick elite mission, Urgoz's Warden, open to all who request it from us on our forums.

As for changing how they work...I enjoy the way they are...but I offer this as an option to everyone none the less.

heaven · May 05, 2006, 04:39 PM // 16:39

/signed

To all players who want to keep elite missions the way it is now, don't post in here. Go make your own petition thread please. Your voice will be heard more cloud and clear.

KESKI · May 05, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

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Originally Posted by SpaceGh057

Yes, paying for Factions content is the same as paying for elite missions, tell me how this isn't so.
When you buy a game, you pay the developers to be given access to their product. As Factions is the product, you have paid to play the elite missions.

Its not like you pay and you cant get in, its more like you pay, but you need to be permit to get in.
Its like go to a amusement park when you are a child, I remeber how pissed I was when I found out I am too short for the ride, but am I against it?? No, cause its safty, it did force me into drinking milk.
If you want a pcgame example, howabout Diablo 2?? If you dont have the attribut, you cant equipe the item. I dont know about you, but I never see any player there jump up and say "XXXX Blizzard"
If you played pso, they set limit to the difficulty you can get in. Ultimate difficulty is lv 80, I believe.
I dont see any problem with that.

No, my guild is no where near those guilds that hold the Elite missions, and I have no friend in those guild, and I want to enter those map too.

I would agree if you ask for reset period, or some other system that make elite mission less about grinding, but I stand for my opinion that Elite Mission should not be a give away.

fb2000 · May 05, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

why i understand why people are angry and bitch, im sure than most of u havent beaten factions yet, and you just heard something about elite missions and how u need to be in some leet alliance in order to enter..

well, why dont you people just play the game, get a friend from that alliance and enter with him/her now and then.. if you cant, you can always pay some bucks and do the same.

if everyone had access to them, they wouldnt be elite would they...

felinette · May 05, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by qwe4rty

Aren't yall missing content by not PvPing?

We can PvP if we want to. With the elite missions, we may not have that choice. Good to see the alliances are letting people do them, but all it'll take is one elitist bastard for that to change.

Kaguya · May 05, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by Rukmedes

Getting the title "Elite" or whatever you need to enter these gay missions, takes a bit of time. And, gasp, some skill! I know most of you don't have skill, but come on.

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Originally Posted by hellprowler

Rukmedes post covers this point. The purpose of Elite missions is not for EVERYONE to play them, simple as that.

So, we can conclude that skill equals with belonging to an zerg-alliance that can grind most faction in shortest times and hold the 'elite'. So this zerg grinding makes you 'elite'?

Okay.

Renegade ++RIP++ · May 05, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

/signed

Ken Dei · May 05, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

I'm sorry, wasn't this thread only for those who AGREE? There are plenty of other threads for people who disagree, even though they're wrong.

Mod, Please delete the post of every person who has dishonored the request of the OP and brought the arguement into this thread too. Let it just be a petition thread as it was meant to be.

"I agree that elite missions should be made much more readily available to all players of all levels of dedication."

Ken Dei
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jgortner · May 05, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Guys,

This is not a dicussion thread. Please either /sign with info (or without) or not. Do not use this thead to dicuss this topic. Only to sign if you approve.

Kaguya · May 05, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Ken Dei

I'm sorry, wan't this thread only for those who AGREE? There are plenty of other threads for people who disagree, even though they're wrong.

Mod, Please delete the post of every person who has dishonored the request of the OP and brought the arguement into this thread too. Let it just be a petition thread as it was meant to be.

"I agree that elite missions should be made much more readily available to all players of all levels of dedication."

As much as I agree with the people disagreeing being wrong on this topic, this still is a DISCUSSION forum, not an online petition system with hotline to Anet offices.

The whole '/signed' culture here is stupid in my opinion, but whatever..

kriuq · May 05, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

A petition thread in a forum will only get a few hundred signatures, really, and will never be an accurate representation of how many people want a change. Thats why a discussion makes more sense.

And by the way, I'm going to agree that that amount of grind your guild can do is not a very good way to judge skill level.

CrispyCritter · May 05, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

/signed

The whole concept of Elite Missions is borked to begin with. I can see maybe having to unlock these missions through personal accomplishments (i.e. your character has to get master level for all factions missions, etc.), but to make it so that ONLY members of a single alliance can do it (or their guests) is just not a good idea.