Curse

Lawnmower · Aug 11, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15

It's no secret that GW is slowely dying. Many outposts and cities are left for dead. Community is angry and many have left. GvG battles are in decline and finding groups and guilds are becoming harder for each day that passes.

If it's not already to late to save GW the only thing left to do is to make Guild Wars free.

Anyone should be able to download and play it for free. ArenaNet can then hope that people will buy the expansions for the new skills and professions and so on. It's the only way to make this title popular again.

If this does not happen, the game will die within a year. Im absolutely certain of that.

Gailie Grey, if you're reading this, you must consider it!! How many copies can you sell of GW anyway? Now adays? the interest have dropped, the graphics are nothing special and the PC scene is getting bombarded with new online RPGs similiar to yours(NWN2 for example... Hellgate "Diablo 3" London to name another)!

Make it happen. people will buy GW factions and nightfall and the others for the new skills.
then there still might be time left for GW... Soon it will be impossible to find groups at some missions, simply due to lack of inactivity.

lyra_song · Aug 11, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Everything you said is based on your own opinion and conjecture.

and since nothing you are basing an idea on has merit, your idea has no merit.

good bye.

EndoftheSyringe · Aug 11, 2006, 07:24 PM // 19:24

So many people became angry because Faction was a huge let down (that's an opinion so let's not discuss it)...

If nightfall absolutely rocks, I bet some people will even come back. If nightfall is like prophecies, I'm going to be very, VERY happy.

TempestBrewer · Aug 11, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

It's no secret that GW is slowely dying. Many outposts and cities are left for dead. Community is angry and many have left. GvG battles are in decline and finding groups and guilds are becoming harder for each day that passes.

Jiga-what!?

You do understand that there was an influx of new people with factions...right? There may be people leaving, but I don't think it's in ANY danger of dying within a year. I think you're completely over-looking the real reason for your difficulty in finding groups-- More to do!! There are now what, almost twice as many areas when you add in Cantha? There are alliance battles which are frequented by many people in the community. A lot of people have moved from Tyria to Cantha as their typical haunting spot. There's always 9 or 10 American districts of Kaineng center that are bustling with trade, the same for the marketplace. There aren't less people, they are just spread out a LOT more.

I really don't understand where this death concept you are preaching is coming from. You say it's "no secret". Why have I not heard this on the wind before? Last I heard, Guild Wars was doing just peachy with its new expansion, influx of more new players than they expected, and the planning of the new expansion for the holiday season. Maybe this is just your way of trying to get Guild Wars for free...

I am happy to pay $40-50 for each new GW that is released, as long as it is up to par (which so far, they have been). This post has been too long.

/agree with lyra_song

Factions was a let down? I don't particularly think so, but I can see why people would say that. I am enjoying it, regardless.

Lyanna

Ganik Thress · Aug 11, 2006, 07:33 PM // 19:33

If they make Prophecies free, they still lose a lot of potential profit, way too much to actually really have any gain. Not to mention all the pissed off customers that actually bought Prophecies for 50 bucks.

Loviatar · Aug 11, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

If it's not already to late to save GW the only thing left to do is to make Guild Wars free.

Anyone should be able to download and play it for free. ArenaNet can then hope that people will buy the expansions for the new skills and professions and so on. It's the only way to make this title popular again.

If this does not happen, the game will die within a year. Im absolutely certain of that.

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i can only assume you are joking otherwise you are either incredibly stupid/incredibly ignorant of real world costs.

give it to everybody free and you will see more people than wow who never paid a cent for it.

they would make the present jerks look good as they would literally have nothing to lose having paid nothing.

oh by the way were you aware that every single account actually costs Anet/NCsoft real money?

OH GEE WELL WE LOSE MONEY ON EVERY FREE ACOUNT ........BUT WE CAN MAKE IT UP ON VOLUME.

IDIOCY

Desbreko · Aug 11, 2006, 07:38 PM // 19:38

It's a good idea to have some actual statistics on hand before you make this kind of thread. For all you know, there could be more people playing GW now than ever before. Just because you see less people in some outposts doesn't mean people have left the game; they could simply be elsewhere in the world, or you may be playing at the wrong time of day.

2ndName · Aug 11, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

GW is dying? Hmm..haven't really notice that. Maybe in Tyria or something? Because everyone is in Cantha.

luxor9 · Aug 11, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

If factions didn't have 2 new characters, I would say that it was the first game of the two to come out. It seems the first GW was an improvement on every game I've ever tried. But when it comes time to improve on that they went backwards. Adding annoying text windows that get in your way..Putting so many quests that make you run back and forth over and over why? Whenever I make a new character now in factions I have to skip all the secondary quests or I can't possibly stand to play it.

If anything make factions free lol.. but yea this post is dumb to ask a company that's letting you play monthly for free to not charge anything for the game. Not even worth discussing which is why I talked about how factions is sub-par to GW standards.

IrishCatholicNewYorker · Aug 11, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

If GW becomes free all the real little kiddys will get it (like the kids who play runescape) not a good idea may be they can lower the price on prophecies now because its older, but frankly, they don't have to.

Lawnmower · Aug 11, 2006, 07:55 PM // 19:55

just look at the inacticity in so many cities. yes even missions and outposts in factions..

the game is not selling anymore.

how can Anet lose money when the title does not sell any longer?

if they made CORE GW free they would at least be able to triple their userbase and at least create interest for the new campaigns.

how many is actually going to buy nightfall after the dissapointment of factions? seriously?

Lawnmower · Aug 11, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by IrishCatholicNewYorker

If GW becomes free all the real little kiddys will get it (like the kids who play runescape) not a good idea may be they can lower the price on prophecies now because its older, but frankly, they don't have to.

I have never seen an community as immature and full of jerks as guild wars(the famboyant people in this thread proves it)! It would be depressing if most of them where not desperate 12 year olds!

Xenex Xclame · Aug 11, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Lots of people will buy Nightfall, just to test out if it "sucks" like factions, if it does then they might make a desision to not come back( they will think this will just keep getting worse and worse) if it doesnt they will be playing like there is no tomorrow.

If the next chapter(chater 4) sucks a la Factions then they might take a break again and then come back when the next one comes out.

Not saying factions sucks or not, just trying to make Lawnmower and maybe others see my point

ducktape · Aug 11, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Desbreko

Just because you see less people in some outposts doesn't mean people have left the game; they could simply be elsewhere in the world, or you may be playing at the wrong time of day.

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Originally Posted by 2ndName

GW is dying? Hmm..haven't really notice that. Maybe in Tyria or something? Because everyone is in Cantha.

Totally QFT. The problem isn't that nobody is playing GW. The problem is that it sounds like the OP is looking in certain cities/outposts/missions that are less populated and is probably not playing during peak hours of his server.

There are generally more people in the Canthan cities and missions, and the population of Canthan cities and missions is still about equal to the population of Ascalon, Lion's Arch, or Droknar's Forge at any time. Sure, that means everyone left... for Factions and Cantha. The problem in Tyria is that people have gotten lazy and just run from Ascalon to Beacon's to Drok's, then from Beacon's to Lion's Arch, then to Temple of Ages and on to Sanctum Cay to get to the desert and ascend. Then they do the 30 attribute point quests. Then they go get infused and then do THK to get to Dakk and that's it. In Factions you can't really bypass anything so the population is evenly dispersed everywhere for the most part. So, no crisis there, just people taking shortcuts in Tyria, which does suck for people trying to explore the whole game and who are looking for groups.

Giving away Prophecies for free would be retarded, if you want more people to buy the game it would make more sense to offer the 10-hour trial keys in more quantities. Then if they like the game they will actually buy it and make ANet some money instead of ANet taking on a bunch more permanent server load from a bunch of freeloaders for zero monetary gain by giving away the game for free.

/give away the game = bad idea

kaya · Aug 11, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

I have never seen an community as immature and full of jerks as guild wars(the famboyant people in this thread proves it)! It would be depressing if most of them where not desperate 12 year olds!

This topic might have actually been a good one until you started name calling, and jumped on the defensive wagon.

lacasner · Aug 11, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

This is kinda off topic..but i feel its important to say it.
Why do people think that immaturity and young age go hand in hand, especially on this forum? Is it like a "im older than you so I must be better than you" complex?

Loviatar · Aug 11, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

the game is not selling anymore.

since you missed it or ignored it here are facts instead of your opinions

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By game, Lineage and Lineage II posted sales of KRW 28.5 billion (US$29.5 million) and KRW 28.4 billion (US$29.4 million), down 5% and 3% respectively from the previous quarter and unchanged year to year. Sales of City of Heroes(R)/City of Villains(R) were down quarter to quarter by 15% to KRW 5.5 billion (US$5.7 million) and down 5% year to year. Sales of Guild Wars showed a significant increase quarter to quarter, growing by 160% to KRW 16.4 billion (US$17 million) while growing 71% year over year. The strong numbers were spurred by the successful April launch of Guild Wars Factions in North America and Europe.

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NCsoft is preparing a simultaneous global launch of the third campaign in the Guild Wars franchise, Guild Wars Nightfall(TM), during the latter half of this year. Closed beta testing for the hugely anticipated MMORPG project Aion(TM) is also expected within the year.

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how many is actually going to buy nightfall after the dissapointment of factions? seriously?

i have a preorder in already

lagrand1 · Aug 11, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Give the kid a break. He tried to come up with a different perspective. The numbers are completely wrong, and it is a bad idea, but at least he is thinking outside the box. Perhaps they could lower the price, and sell it in the in game store, so factions players could get some of the prophesies skills.

lacasner, immaturity and young age do go hand in hand. Sorry.

kaya · Aug 11, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by lagrand1

lacasner, immaturity and young age do go hand in hand. Sorry.

To some extent maybe, but I would have to disagree with that statement. You cant judge a kids level of maturity by his age.

CrazyMrLeo · Aug 11, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

the only thing left to do is to make Guild Wars free.

This is a terrible idea that will cause ArenaNet to hemorrhage money. Come on, think of the economics of the situation. A free subscription is worse than no subscription for ArenaNet

Also, as a Prophecies-only PvE player, I really have to disagree with your assessment that Guild Wars is empty. I see people all over the place. Ascalon and Lions Arch are often so cluttered that I can't move. =P Even out of the way outposts during non-peak hours always have a few people hanging around. There are a lot of people playing this game, and Nightfall will only bring in more.