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May 06, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)
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and you dont work for anet why>??????????????
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May 07, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Heightened state of mind.
Profession: P/W
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There are alot of good ideas here, I only read through the Elementist skills so far, but they realy arn't ground breaking, the developers would come up with skills like this on their own.
I would like to point out that using signets with Elementist, who has the most energy to use, simply betrays the elementist mechanics. Signets naturally have high recast times and mediocre effectiveness because they don't cost energy, for a class that has the energy to burn, that is just a weakness. But more importantly Elementist almost always include Aura of Restoration to maintain health while casting spells, if your using signets which don't use energy, then you don't get the added health benifit. With energy management, even expensive Elementist skills can be thrown down with ease, what Elementist needs is better, less removeable energy management, and even more important, Exhaustion management. Energy free skills may be useful for Elementist secondary players, but if Warriors can deal effective lightning attacks without energy, then your betraying the effectiveness of Primary elementist even more. I'll go through another class of skill maybe another time, but from here I will point out that making a bunch of skills realy isn't an aid to the developers, no better than a skill list for a class concept. The developers are more than capable of coming up with new skills, and unless you have an idea for skills with improved tactical advantages, or something totaly unique which you think would be a good addition to the gameplay, then your realy just pursuing a lost effort. Oh one more thing, Elementist skills are difficult to use between cross elements, Elementist typically need maximum points in an attribute to effectivly use a spell, and they typically use maximum points in one element and energy storage for effective attacks. Unless conditions like burning become more prevalent among other classes, skills that trigger on it will difficult to use, expecially in pick up situations. Something an Elementist needs is alot more Wards and personal Location DoT spells which last to create more defensive barriers, DoT at target enemy spells are already becoming obsolete and ineffective. Having some lasting Ward or Offensive barriers for Fire magic would be a great improvement. Last edited by BahamutKaiser; May 07, 2006 at 04:46 PM // 16:46.. |
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May 07, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Zealand
Profession: Me/R
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I really really really don't like your mesmer skills...
I'll list them all later... when this tiredness effect wears off of me. |
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May 07, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kali
Profession: W/E
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---------------------------------------------------------------- Here are some stuff inspired while reading/reviewing your ranger skills. Mad Beast (Beastmastery) Your pet increase its attack by X for duration of T seconds, but in duration will not take any pet skill and will attack all nearby creature (friend or foe) Ducken Cover (Experties) Stance: Increase your AL by X and have 75% chance to dodge all incoming arrows for the next T seconds, but reduce your attack speed by 50%. This skill end if you Move. Return Fire (Experties) Stance: Increase your AL by X against all incomeing range attacks in the duration of T seconds. For every hit by a enemy arrow, your attack incerease by X for 3 seconds. Higher Ground (Marksmanship) Preperation: For duration of T seconds, your shot will gain +X attack and increase in shooting range (act as if you are on a higher ground), but your AL decrease by Y. Sharper Aim (Markemanship) For T seconds, you arrow do +X more attack and Y% armor pentration, but you shoot at 50% slower. True Shot (Markemanship) 4s Casting This shot can not be block or evade, and move 50% faster, dealing X more damage and Y% armor pentration. Net Arrow (Wilderness) Preperation: for T seconds, when evern your arrow hit a target, that target's movment speed is slow down by 5...15% (up to 60%) Bestial Teamwork (Beast Mastery) Your pet will attack, if successful, target will reduce X AL from your next attack (in the next 3 seconds, and must come from You, and not any other source) Pet Bonding Skill type: might considier creating a new skill type for all the Pet Bonding skills, that way can have more coverage with additional skill that would support it. ("skill that would say "if are bond to a pet, than do XXX"") |
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May 08, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17
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of Brackenwood
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Mantra of Competency This skill makes the most sense as a Fast Casting skill, but I wanted it to be useable for non-mesmer primaries. The reason, I suppose, is because I'm trying out an experimental monk signet build and this would be useful, even if for just 20 seconds. |
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May 08, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Most of these skill ideas are pretty solid. Good job.
I went through the trouble of pulling out some old skill ideas Ive accumulated over time. Warrior Strength Signet of Absorption Signet. You take 30.. 135 damage in place of target ally. Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 5 Tactics Push The Lines! Elite Shout. For 3.. 8 seconds all allies within the area block the next melee or arrow attack. If an attack is blocked this way that ally gains 5 energy. Adrenaline Cost: 5 hits Ranger Expertise Counter Shot Stance. For 3.. 18 seconds you will evade the next arrow attack and fire it back to its source at 2 times its original speed. Energy Cost:5 Recharge Time: 6 Marksmanship Sniper Shot Elite Attack. Shoot an arrow with double range. If this hits a moving foe that foe is knocked down. Energy Cost: 10 Recharge Time: 10 Elementalist Energy Storage Fire and Ice Attunement Enchantment Spell. For 23.. 45 seconds you are attuned to Fire and Water. You gain 15.. 33% of the Energy cost of the skill each time you use Fire or Water magic. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 15 (Also Attunements for Fire/Lightning, Fire/Earth, Water/Lighting, Water/Earth, and Lighting/Earth.) Elemental Might Enchantment Spell. For 30 seconds you gain +2 energy regen. This enchantment ends if you cast non elemental spells or after you cast 3.. 12 elemental spells. Energy Cost: 15 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 45 Monk Divine Favor Tia Chi Stance. For 3.. 12 seconds while standing still any melee attack used against you knocks that foe down. Tia Chi ends if you are struck while moving. Energy Cost: 5 Recharge Time: 20 Protection Prayers Protective Garments Enchantment Spell. For 3.. 16 seconds target ally can not be inflected with Daze or Deep Wound. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 1 Recharge Time: 15 Mesmer Inspiration Invigorate Esteem Enchantment Spell. For 10 seconds all party members next offensive spell cast twice as fast. (50% chance of failure with Inspiration 5 or less) Energy Cost: 15 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 20 Inspiration Invigorate Stamina Enchantment Spell. For 10 seconds all party members next offensive spell recharges twice as fast. (50% chance of failure with Inspiration 5 or less) Energy Cost: 15 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 30 Necromancer Curses Flu Elite Hex Spell. For 12.. 28 seconds target foe is hexed with Flu. If any hex is removed from that target, this hex is removed in its place and that target suffers from Disease for 3.. 16 seconds. Energy Cost: 5 Activation Time: 1 Recharge Time: 10 Death Magic Soul Warden Spell. Exploit nearest corpse to animate a level 0.. 17 Soul Warden. While Soul Warden is over a corpse that corpse can not be resurrected. Energy Cost: 25 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 30 An old idea I had for a skill - Trick Shot. No Attribute Trick Shot Attack. Shoot an arrow that cannot be blocked by obstacles Energy Cost: 5 Activation Time:1 Recharge Time: 2 I can see how your Trick Shot is tricky though. Last edited by Goonter; May 10, 2006 at 11:23 PM // 23:23.. |
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May 09, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Because it seems harder than usually to make skills for marksmanship I thought it out some.
My understanding of Bow attacks is that, outside of ranger spike, they are almost always better used for their utility abilities. Though pressure damage is a possibility, in a group of eight, that pressure damage plays a serious second fiddle to warriors and maybe now assassins. There are a few other attribute skills in there too, but mostly it’s about useful marksmanship attacks. Beast Mastery Distraction Shout. For 9.. 18 seconds while your pet is attacking targeted foe that foe can not use interrupting skills. Energy Cost: 15 Recharge Time: 28 Marksmanship Disarm Attack. If Disarm hits an attacking foe that target is interrupted and one attack skill is disabled for 3.. 10 seconds. Energy Cost: 10 Recharge Time: 10 Opportunity Shot Attack. If Opportunity Shot hits a dazed foe that foe is knocked down otherwise this skill recharges instantly and strikes for +3.. 15damage. Energy Cost: 5 Recharge Time: 12 Prep Shot Attack. If Prep Shot hits you strike for +3.. 15 damage and your next bow attack can not be evaded. If using a preparation this attack cost 3 less energy. Energy Cost: 5 Recharge Time: 10 Will of Melandru Attack. If Will of Melandru hits you strike for +10 damage and any condition the target is suffering last 18.. 33% longer. Energy Cost: 10 Recharge Time: 20 Proud Shot Attack. If Proud Shot hits you deal +10.. 32 damage. If under an enchantment this skill will do 8.. 18 less damage. Energy Cost: 10 Recharge Time: 6 Sham Shot Attack. If Sham Shot hits you deal +3.. 15 damage and interrupt enchantment spells. If under an enchantment this skill recharges instantly. Energy Cost: 5 Recharge Time: 8 Prevention Shot Attack. If Prevention Shot hits you deal +3.. 15 damage and interrupt hex spells. If under an enchantment this skill cost 3 less energy. Energy Cost: 10 Recharge Time: 10 Wilderness Survival First Aid Skill. Remove touched target ally of 1.. 5 conditions and heal for 30.. 90 health. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 20 Immunity Skill. For 8.. 18 seconds you gain +2 health regen. You lose 1 regen if your poisoned and 1 regen if you are disease. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 40 Splurging Right Nature Ritual. Create a level 1.. 10 Spirit for 30.. 150 seconds. Any spell that cost less than 5 energy causes exhaustion. Energy Cost: 5 Activation Time: 5 Recharge Time: 60 Im a little disappointed that Mesmers get so many nice looking hex spells and necros, with a curses line, has a number of so-so skills. The best ones are drop and forget so these are a few hexes I could see making people spam: “Curses Nec lfg.” in local chat. Soul Reaping Plain Demise Enchantment Spell. If your next hex spell takes longer than 15 seconds to recharge it cost 1.. 6 less energy and recharges instantly. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 1 Recharge Time: 20 Curses Reject Hope Hex Spell. For 8.. 18 seconds target foe and all nearby foe receives 20% less benefit from healing. Energy Cost: 15 Activation Time: 1 Recharge Time: 30 Chilling Blood Hex Spell. For 5.. 35 seconds target foe takes 9.. 24 cold damage every time they stand still for one second. Energy Cost: 15 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 20 Recurring Hex Hex Spell. After 5 seconds Recurring Hex ends and deals 9.. 24 damage. For 20 seconds this hex reappears if target foe is enchanted. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 20 Reasonable Doubt Hex Spell. For 4.. 10 seconds the next spell that would target an ally takes 3 times longer to cast and causes 1.. 7 degen while casting. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 1 Recharge Time: 10 Soul Sap Hex Spell. For 8... 18 seconds target foe loses 2 energy for each spell they cast or 2 adrenaline when using an attack skill. Energy Cost: 10 Activation Time: 2 Recharge Time: 30 Sudden Depressition Spell. Remove 4 hits of adrenline from target foe. Target takes 4.. 18 shadow damage for each hit of adrenline removed. Energy Cost: 5 Activation Time: 3 Recharge Time: 8 Ok, some of these names really suck. I came up with the effects first and coming up with names proved too challenging for me. Im sure you get the idea behind them though. Last edited by Goonter; May 10, 2006 at 11:38 PM // 23:38.. |
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May 09, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England
Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]
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Ennui {E}
Illusion of Perfection I like those 2 skills, annoy the hell out of warriors trying to adren spikes and Ennui is definatly better than Arcane Languor. Would be very nice when combined with Diversion and Wastrels Worry. Too many to read through entirely, but nice work  Mesmer has way too many direct damage skills though imo |
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Aug 11, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
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thread nec.
Elementalist Energy Storage Meditation Stance. For 1-10 seconds you gain 2 energy regen. This stance ends if you move. Cost: 5e Recast: 12s. Restoration Spell. You recieve 1.. 6 health for every point of energy you have. (max of 160) Energy: 10 Cast: 2 Recast: 5 Earth Magic Jagged Rocks Enchantment Spell. For 10-30 seconds any moving foe adjacent to you takes 8-20 earth damage per second. Energy: 15 Cast: 1 Recharge: 30 Fire Magic Fire Blast Spell. All foes in the area are hit for 15.. 90 Fire damage. Energy: 15 Cast: 1 Recast: 1 Slight Burns Hex Spell. For 6-24 seconds target foe takes 3-12 fire damage every 3 seconds. Energy: 5 Cast: 2 Recast: 10 Water Magic Slipper Slope Hex Spell. For 8-20 seconds, target foe will knock themselves down if they are moving faster than normal. This hex ends if target stands still for 3 seconds. Energy: 10 Cast: 2 Recast: 10 Mesmer No attribute Counter Spell Spell. If target foe is casting a spell, that spell is interrupted and Counter spell is replaced with the interrupted spell for 20 seconds. Energy: 10 Cast: ¼ Recast: - Monk Divine Favor Disciplined Flesh Stance. For 1.. 7 seconds you have +40 armor verse physical damage. This stance ends if you are knocked down. Energy: 5 Recast: 15 Necromancer Blood Magic Blood Sacrifice Spell. Sacrifice 20% Health. If Target allys health is below 50% he is healed for 100-186% of the amount you lost. Energy: 10 Cast: 1 Recast: 10 Curses Crush Hope Spell. Remove one enchantment. If that enchantment was a monk enchantment it is disabled for an additional 4-20 seconds. Energy: 10 Cast: 3 Recast: 30 Unyeilding Hex elite Enchantment Spell. The next hex you cast will only target a single foe and remove target foe of all hexes and this enchantment ends. This foe can not be targeted with any other hexes while that hex is on them. That hex can not be removed. Energy: 10 Cast: 2 Recast: 20 Death Magic Order of Suffering Enchantment Spell. Sacrifice 17% Health. For 5 seconds whenever a animate undead hits a foe they are hexed with Suffering which is -2 Health degen for 5.. 11 seconds Energy: 15 Cast: 2 Ranger Marksmanship Studied Shot Attack. If Studied Shot hits a foe in a stance it stikes for +13-26 damage. Studied Shot cannot be blocked or evaded. This skill takes an additional 7 seconds to recharge if your shot strays. Energy: 10 Recast: 1 Assassin Shadow Arts Illusion of Self: Enchantment. For the next 8-56 seconds if your health falls below 20% and you will teleport to the place you cast this spell. Energy: 10 Cast: 2 Recharge: 20 ??? Supersede: Hex. For 4-12 seconds the next time targeted foe would target one of their allies with a spell that spell effects one of their foes if nearby instead and Supersede ends. Energy: 5 Cast: 2 Recast: 20 Or Supersede: Enchantment. For 4-12 seconds the next time a foe would target one of their allies with a spell that spell effects you instead if you are nearby and Supersede ends. Energy: 5 Cast: 2 Recast: 20 Last edited by Goonter; Aug 11, 2006 at 09:01 PM // 21:01.. |
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Aug 11, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Divinty Coast, Kryta
Guild: We Invented [PvP]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Elementalist
Tornado - Elite Stance. For 2..8[10] seconds, you have a 75% chance to 'block' attacks. Whenever you block a melee attack in this way the attacking foe is knocked down. Cast time - N/A Energy Cost - 5 Recharge Time - 35 seconds Attribute - Air Magic Monk Signet Of Hope - Signet. For each dead party member in the area, you gain 1..7[9] energy. Cast Time - 2 secs Energy Cost - 0 Recharge time - 15 seconds Attribute - Divine Favour all I can think of so far... Finally an ele stance!
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Aug 11, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Denmark
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Necromancer, Curses. 15e 2cast, 10 recharge.
Order of Debility. Maybe elite. Enchantment. Sacrifice 17% maximum health, for 5 seconds, whenever a party member hits a foe with physical damage, that foe suffers from weakness for 2..7 seconds, if a foe is struck while casting a spell, that foe looses 1..2 energy and you (the caster of the order) lose 5% max health. |
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Aug 11, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Divinty Coast, Kryta
Guild: We Invented [PvP]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Got some more...
Mesmer Passing Dream - Spell. Target other ally loses all hexes and you recieve all hexes that ally had and their remaining durations. Cast Time - 1 second Energy Cost - 5 Recharge time - 45 seconds Attribute - None (Mesmer) Monk Panaecea - Enchantment Spell. For 8 seconds, The next time target ally recieves a negative condition, that condition is negated and ally gains 10..63[72] health Cast Time - 3/4 second Energy Cost - 10 Recharge time - 5 seconds Attribute - Protection Prayers Warrior Fallible Blow - Hammer Attack. If this attack hits target foe takes an additional 15..60[63] damage and is knocked down for 4 seconds. If Fallible Blow fails to hit or is interupted, you are knocked down for 4 seconds. This attack is easily interupted. Cast Time - N/A Adrenaline - 4 Recharge time - N/A Attribute - Hammer Mastery Last edited by -Innocence-; Aug 12, 2006 at 10:22 AM // 10:22.. |
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Aug 12, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53
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Avatar of Gwen
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Wandering my own road.
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As a note, I abandoned this thread because I came to the realization I let myself be led to believe more=better, and most of my skills were just plain bad.
Not necessarily unplayable. Some would definitely see play without being broken, but simply don't fit into the style the attribute line/profession has (such as unconditional mesmer direct damage). There are a few actual gems that I stand by as they are, and a few which could really fit in with both appropriate flavour and usefulness given a little tweaking, but for the most part, I'm actually a bit embarassed at the overall suggestions. However, if people want to use this thread, then so be it. Maybe others can learn from my mistakes and produce better than I did. And, if nothing else, I at least had fun making them, and since the suggestions in this forum are rarely taken that seriously, that's probably all that matters in the end. Hope you have as much fun too. |
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Aug 12, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: Me/
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Im only going to review the elementalist and mesmer skills because the other ones are already been commented
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Power up Mind Freeze, and you can add this skill for sure WELL... i gotta travel now but here are the good mesmer skills u made (or the ones that have a potential to be a new skill): Insecurity Mental Burnout Silence Amnesia Mental Block Illusion of Grandeur (add a "you" and there you go) Transfer Burden Essence Drain Ether Guard Ennui sry for not commenting about the mesmers skills good luck |
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