Curse

Urzza · Oct 02, 2006, 05:58 AM // 05:58

Greetings! Now, to the heart of the matter:

Fast Casting.

As it stand now, most (as far as I can tell) people believe that, unless you have skills that need it, it really isn't worth it. What I'm attempting to do is to change that idea.

My proposal thus: "For each rank you have in fast casting, your spells recharge 2% faster, rounded down. "

There you have it. Note, the part underlined is kinda iffy, I'm not sure if it would be too good that way.

Thanks for reading.
~Urzza

warriorsmiley · Oct 02, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Fast casting is good as it is. Giving it that affect will then affect all recharge times of skills especially mesmer skills. Some skills have long recharges because if they didnt they will be to good. You will see huge recharges on just about every skill in the game(picture ROF getting a longer recharge say 6-8 just because a mesmer primary could spam it with fast casting helping recharge). Overall a bad idea.

Also if you havent noticed some of the better mesmer skills have 3-2 second cast times which are just interupt bait(diversion, spirit of failure, energy burn and surge, soothing images) just to name a few. Fast casting also helps with secondary's like a mes/nec using fast casting to lay those annoying warrior hate hexes in half the time that a necro can do it.

Kai Nui · Oct 02, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48

I don't know, they did buff expertise slightly to include everything that isn't a spell, I do think there should be a fast casting buff, but I don't think your suggestion was what I think would be good. Maybe signets included in FC.

Haggard · Oct 02, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I like FC as it is - as I understand it, 7 = half casting, which only requires you to take 1 point off a maxed out attribute. Some mesmer spells are annoyingly slow casting as warriorsmiley said - If we had mesmers with ultra fast recharges, shutdown would be a massively overpowered problem for monks.

Zui · Oct 02, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

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Originally Posted by Haggard

I like FC as it is - as I understand it, 7 = half casting, which only requires you to take 1 point off a maxed out attribute. Some mesmer spells are annoyingly slow casting as warriorsmiley said - If we had mesmers with ultra fast recharges, shutdown would be a massively overpowered problem for monks.

Wrong. 15 is exactly half. 7 is *only* 28%, and 9 is 33%.

I like running 7 or 9 :P

As for the suggestion, Fast Casting is absolutly fine as-is.

The truth itself · Oct 02, 2006, 08:17 AM // 08:17

FC is fine and very useful.

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idiosyncratic · Oct 02, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

nah, for each level of fast casting, your spell recharges 6% faster, costs 6% less, casts 6% faster, and has 6% less exastion, at 16 fast casting all spells cast with no cost, no cast time, and have no recharge. Meteor shower can be cast soooooo many times in a row itll deal about a billion damage in a second.

lyra_song · Oct 02, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

.-.

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works fine.

makosi · Oct 02, 2006, 01:41 PM // 13:41

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Its powerful but weaker than the rest.

Scavenger Rage · Oct 02, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

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Originally Posted by makosi

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Its powerful but weaker than the rest.

Weaker then the rest?! How so?!?!?!

Strenght on warriors is near useless...1% AP yeah right!!! Soooooooooooooooooo usefull!!! At 12 you might strike for +3dmg hoooooray!!!

Latter.

PS: I am not even conssidering the skill line, just commenting about the atribute and its effects.

Shattered Self · Oct 02, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by Kai Nui

I don't know, they did buff expertise slightly to include everything that isn't a spell, I do think there should be a fast casting buff, but I don't think your suggestion was what I think would be good. Maybe signets included in FC.

Expertise always worked that way, they just re-worded the description to make it clear they had no intention of changing it to nerf touch rangers.

Urzza · Oct 02, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by idiosyncratic

nah, for each level of fast casting, your spell recharges 6% faster, costs 6% less, casts 6% faster, and has 6% less exastion, at 16 fast casting all spells cast with no cost, no cast time, and have no recharge. Meteor shower can be cast soooooo many times in a row itll deal about a billion damage in a second.

Please, be say something useful or leave. (More comments to come latter)

Zakarr · Oct 02, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

Signets should be added to Fast Casting. Mesmers have skills for signet improvement so why don't make them masters of signets by reducing the activation time too?

Tark Alkerk · Oct 02, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42

/not signed
works fine in pvp

Urzza · Oct 04, 2006, 05:39 AM // 05:39

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Originally Posted by Tark Alkerk

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works fine in pvp

But, IMO, not so hawt for PvE.

Emik · Oct 04, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

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Originally Posted by Zakarr

Signets should be added to Fast Casting. Mesmers have skills for signet improvement so why don't make them masters of signets by reducing the activation time too?

Exact quote from Wiki

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Fast Casting only benefits spells. There is no change to the "casting" time for signets, rituals, glyphs, traps, attacks, preparations, shouts, stances, general skills, or any other skill type. This is a common misunderstanding among new players.

Leave it as it is.
Mesmers are already highly underrated.

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Terra Xin · Oct 04, 2006, 09:34 AM // 09:34

Emik, the suggestion was to include signets into the FC line, not to make the assumption that signets were already part of the FC line. Please read carefully. There is a Nightfall skill in the Fast Casting attribute that increases the speed at which Signets can be activated, be excited^^.

Aside from that, the cap for skill recharge is 50% unless the source comes from a single skill. Because FC does not impact on this limitation, skills such as Mantra of Recovery will supplement to FC skill rechage, gaining 80% recharge on all spells at rank 15. If you implement this, it would make the FC line overpowering.

lightblade · Oct 04, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Fast casting is fine as it is, just these n00bs haven't realizes it's importance

Urzza · Oct 04, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by lightblade

Fast casting is fine as it is, just these n00bs haven't realizes it's importance

Well then, explane to this "n00b" it's importance.

master_of_puppets · Oct 05, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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As people pointed out, FC is fine. You also have to consider the class and whats its generally used for and also the skill line.