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Old Dec 28, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01   #1
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How cool whould it be if there was an event where literaly 1000's of people join together to kill a huge boss but no heros or heches just players.
WoW and liniage does it so why can't we?
And don't say its beacuase of the lag cozz ive done on WoW and it was fine
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Old Dec 28, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05   #2
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Servers don't have that capacity afaik.
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Old Dec 28, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52   #3
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WoW and liniage does it so why can't we?
Maybe because they're Lineage and WoW, and this is Guild Wars?
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Old Dec 28, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53   #4
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Because Guild wars is a team-based game.
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Old Dec 28, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #5
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Because Guild wars is a team-based game.
he said thousands not solo, and that sounds like a big team to me, try reading posts before you contradict yourself
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Old Dec 28, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #6
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Prot spirit or shelter/union.
Damage hexes of your choice (SS/SV/empathy/insidious)
Spinal shivers or broadhead arrow for constant shutdown.

Now...

What will the other 998 people be doing?

GW combat isn't about dealing damage. It's about playing smart.

Glint used to be a massacre. Now a warrior runs circles around her solo.
DoA wasn't doable. And yet, a team of only 8 completes the whole thing in 8 hours. It wasn't nerfed, the mobs weren't changed, and no gimmick build apeared.
There were horror posts about how unbalanced the Maguuma Jungle is, and how nobody will ever complete these missions.

/learn2play has a special meaning in GW. There is no way to design something that would require more than 8 players, unless you design a mob that doesn't work within GW's combat model.

And yes, WoW and Lineage and all that.
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Old Dec 28, 2006, 08:11 PM // 20:11   #7
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bs antheus

without dmg you will never ever get further then the start. If it wasn't about dmg, you wouldn't see the holy triumvirate aka monk, warrior, nuker groups finishing doa in under 8 hours...
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30   #8
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How cool whould it be if there was an event where literaly 1000's of people join together to kill a huge boss but no heros or heches just players.
WoW and liniage does it so why can't we?
And don't say its beacuase of the lag cozz ive done on WoW and it was fine
WoW is a MMO. Guild Wars is not.
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53   #9
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I think it all has to do with the wide range of abilities offered in Guild Wars.
Kuunavang is fought with 16 players and is actually quite easy with the right strategy despite the 50% immunity to interrupts, halved hex and condition duration and healthy chunk of hp.

If you had, say 24 players, the boss would probably require complete immunity to conditions, hexes and interrupts and have a huge amount of hp and high damaging skills. Those immunities would alienate a large portion of the professions offered in the game and essentially it would just be a matter of bringing a monk/warrior/ele and then avoid/mitigate it's attack, unload damage onto it, avoid/mitigate it's attack, ect., ect.

It would probably be a shallow experience fighting a boss that was designed to be a challenge for 24+ players using any combination of professions Guild Wars has to offer.

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 03:00 AM // 03:00   #10
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WoW is a MMO. Guild Wars is not.

Lets spell out MMO shall we?

Massively Multiplayer Online

Guild Wars has lots of people= Massively

It is Multiplayer= Multiplayer

(looks around) it appear to be online....= Online

Guild Wars is listed by most companies as an MMO...because it is a MMO. The difference between WoW is not that, but gameplay, and how the servers are setup to handle people online.

However comparing any other MMO (WoW, Lineage) and GW is like comparing apples and oranges...they are very similiar but are very much different.
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29   #11
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Can you imagine the argument over who get's the drop?!?
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46   #12
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Lets spell out MMO shall we?

Massively Multiplayer Online

Guild Wars has lots of people= Massively

It is Multiplayer= Multiplayer

(looks around) it appear to be online....= Online

Guild Wars is listed by most companies as an MMO...because it is a MMO. The difference between WoW is not that, but gameplay, and how the servers are setup to handle people online.

However comparing any other MMO (WoW, Lineage) and GW is like comparing apples and oranges...they are very similiar but are very much different.
Guild Wars is not Massively Multiplayer. You have a maximum of 24 people playing in the same instance at once (Alliance Battles). 24 is NOT massive. Just because there are a bunch of people doesn't mean it's qualifies as massive. WoW on the other hand, does not have a limit on the number of people who can do something. You can raid a city with as many people as you can find. Thus, it is massive.

And the only reason most companies list GW as an MMO is because most people would be skeptical if it was listed as a CORPG, making them think that it was some sort of radically different and strange type of gameplay that makes zero sense whatsoever.

As for the original idea, /notsigned. For one, the servers couldn't handle it (100 people in a district maximum, doubt they could do more than that), and two, there wouldn't be any need for that many people. As per Antheus' post, three characters are all that would be needed. One to keep everyone alive via prot spirit/shelter and heals, one to deal damage with hexes like empathy and spiteful spirit, and one to keep the thing shut down with dazed or constant interrupts. The need for so many other people doesn't exist, and would be pretty dang hard to create.
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #13
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24 could be considered Massive and besides it wins many MMORPG awards so just let it go.

As for this idea.. It would be fun.. they kinda had it with the Grasps in the town though you weren't fighting them. Still they could do it.. even if 24 per district it would be fun to have an arena to fight a giant boss...

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15   #14
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humm... do note then a long/huge party list window(even more viewing space lost again)would be needed for a monk to monitor health....
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