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Old Jan 08, 2007, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #1
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Here is something for some of us who may be just crazy enough to try it. I call this title "Legendary Defender of Tyria". In order to get it you must meet a couple of conditions:
1 Complete the Profecies campaign with the original armor that you first get when you start a new character in Pre-Searing.
2 Use only weapons that have dropped or you find in chests.
3 Finish at the lowest possible Lvl that can be done (not sure if that one is possible though).
4 You must complete both Missions and Bonus's.

This title can be used for Cantha and Elona using the same conditions.
I know that by finishing the missions and bonus's you get the title Protector, but this is for those who may be crazy enough to try for something that seems impossible.

You must wear the original armor the whole time, it cnnot be just in your inventory, and you cannot craft any new armor until you have the title. This title track should not show up until you are at least to Lions Arch.

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Old Jan 08, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28   #2
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Not bumping just adding a couple other conditions:
You must wear the original armor the whole time, it cnnot be just in your inventory, and you cannot craft any new armor until you have the title. This title track should not show up until you are at least to Lions Arch.

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Old Jan 08, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45   #3
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all people would do is hire someone to run the missions and bonuses for them.
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #4
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Or have their guild do it for them.
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Old Jan 08, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23   #5
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Sorry but no. This is a title you have to work for by getting to level 20 in presear with the limited skills and armor made available to you. i'd say those conditions are more than enough. That and considering the highest level monster is level 10. If you've read the guide on how to do it. Your looking at a very large amount of time.

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Old Jan 08, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37   #6
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Sorry but no. This is a title you have to work for by getting to level 20 in presear with the limited skills and armor made available to you. i'd say those conditions are more than enough. That and considering the highest level monster is level 10. If you've read the guide on how to do it. Your looking at a very large amount of time.
That is the 'Legendary Defender of Ascalon' title. This is for a different title.

It's unfeasible though as there would be so many variables to track for attainment, how would you record/observe it?
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50   #7
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i hate you idea

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Old Jan 09, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51   #8
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THE POOR MONKS! THEY WOULD HAVE TO HEAL A WAR WITH 15AL! or mabey a caster with 5al? that would kill your whole party because
1) lower armor means you get hit higher
2)lower lvl means less health and att points
3)sh!t weapons means way less dmg, think about a war with a starter sword in say, hell's precipice
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 06:18 AM // 06:18   #9
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First of all, it would be pretty impossible to get the title using only heroes and henchies. And you think any sane group would be willing to have the extra weight of a useless character in their group? That is, unless you manage to talk your guildies into it which seems to be the only plausible way of doing it, but then this title would have nothing to do with your own gameplay, it would just be an excuse to sit around while others do the work.
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34   #10
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/not signed...but maybe a good title for the oft suggested quest completion title.campaign specific obviously.
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44   #11
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There is no way for the game to keep track of what armour or weapons you have on your character. Whereas, it's easy for the game to know that you haven't done Ascalon Academy, and that you are level 20.
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14   #12
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Here is something for some of us who may be just crazy enough to try it. I call this title "Legendary Defender of Tyria". In order to get it you must meet a couple of conditions:
1 Complete the Profecies campaign with the original armor that you first get when you start a new character in Pre-Searing.
2 Use only weapons that have dropped or you find in chests.
3 Finish at the lowest possible Lvl that can be done (not sure if that one is possible though).
4 You must complete both Missions and Bonus's.
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Everytime ive seen a low level character in the crystal desert or Droks, I always think to myself "why?". Its bad enough we have people trying to finish the game at lvl1 or 2 at the moment, and probably leaching missions to get there.

If we add a title to incourage this, then we will have high end areas full of even more level 4s, in low armor, with max weapons they cant use and a very limited number of skills which wont have a high yield on them.

What use are they to PUGs?

They wont use henches, because they will want to be in PUGs to leach the missions because they know they cant survive otherwise. And if they do try to take part instead of leaching, the monk is going to have to concentrate their entire time on keeping them alive.

This is a title which would get extremely exploited and abused. It would incourage leaching and no-one would invite these people into their PUGs for very good reasons.

And you cant say "but they might be a good player, despite their level", because thats nonsense. As I said, their armor will be low, their skills will be limited and their weapons wont be use-able.

Even if they ganged together to form low level PUGs in high end areas, I dont see them surviving. They would need high level players with them and they would leach.

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We have defender of ascalon to prove this kind of thing anyway.
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Old Jan 09, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56   #13
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In order for a player to get this title they will have to do every mission and bonus using the PRE-SEARING armor only. Those are the conditions that should matter most. Including the requirement that they use only weapons that were dropped for them or came from chests from them, adds a bit of skill to getting this title. As in my original post I am not sure just how much EXP one gains from each mission and bonus, but getting to the end will probably mean beign at l;east lvl 15+ probably more. Most players that are low lvl in the desert or even droks (lvl 5 or lower) have been run there and haven't done most if any of the missions killing their chance for this title. Actualy getting this title will take some major skill and probably a lot of help, which at the moment seem to be lacking in the game. I realy do not think that you can even get to the ring of fire without beign lvl 17 or 18 if you have done all the missions and bonus's.

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Old Jan 09, 2007, 10:23 AM // 10:23   #14
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In order for a player to get this title they will have to do every mission and bonus using the PRE-SEARING armor only. Those are the conditions that should matter most. Including the requirement that they use only weapons that were dropped for them or came from chests from them, adds a bit of skill to getting this title. As in my original post I am not sure just how much EXP one gains from each mission and bonus, but getting to the end will probably mean beign at l;east lvl 15+ probably more. Most players that are low lvl in the desert or even droks (lvl 5 or lower) have been run there and haven't done most if any of the missions killing their chance for this title. Actualy getting this title will take some major skill and probably a lot of help, which at the moment seem to be lacking in the game. I realy do not think that you can even get to the ring of fire without beign lvl 17 or 18 if you have done all the missions and bonus's.

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I still see it being exploited. But even if a player is lvl15; if their in low armor and ill equipped then your not going add them to a PUG and i doubt they would mention the fact their in pre-searing armor.

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Old Jan 09, 2007, 10:33 AM // 10:33   #15
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Indeed. Getting max armor is one of the important things that separates a useful team member from dead weight, and it's alot of fun to get armor too. Legendary Defender of Ascalon is a novely title for people who have time to sink into vanity titles, IMHO. However, getting it doesn't require you to tax anyone else.

Guild Wars is a team-play game, and any title that detracts from your ability to aid the team is a bad idea. The reason we have starter areas like Pre-Searing, Shing Jea, and Istan, is so that you have a chance to get RID of your useless starter armor and weapons.

Also, this reminds me of the old fable where a man sold his soul to the devil for infinite gold. In return, however, the devil forced him to wear the same smelly bear skin for 7 years as part of the bargain. If ANET gave me infinite gold, I might be tempted to try for this title, but otherwise, it's just a waste of time.

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Old Jan 09, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #16
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too many 'tyrian' titles already imo.
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