Curse

MithranArkanere · Apr 04, 2007, 11:24 AM // 11:24

I'll pay for a remake of the old chapters so all of them have the same good things:
Insignia armor, inscriptions, challenges giving prices, missions started by talking to an NPC, replay of all cinematics by talking to NPCs, lvl 20 monsters and hechmen and parties of 8 from Lion's Arch, etc...

That won't really be 'expansion' but something they could do in spare time.
In Diablo II, they made an update after a long time. Adding some items and fixing some bug.

I don't think they will completely forget about GW.
Already existing events could be used again, and some bugs found in late time should be fixed.

Lexar · Apr 04, 2007, 02:06 PM // 14:06

As if a forum petition is going to make Anet hire and pay for 75 employees and develop a game for 12 months based on no economic marketing model whatsoever.

Ecklipze · Apr 04, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Oh how I miss that beautiful feeling when I played Guild Wars for the first time in '05.

SpeedyKQ · Apr 04, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Care to explain why? PM me the reason

The reasons I want GW2 to die, and instead have lots more GW1 stuff:

I don't want to wait 2 years.

No new content for my existing characters. I like my characters and want to have new things to do with them. It isn't that I'm worried about "losing all of my work" - the Hall of Monuments does nothing to make me feel better.

I chose to get into GW, and not any other MMO because everything is instanced. I come from a long history of single-player RPG's and I want the world to revolve around me, dammit.

I'm also kinda bummed about the high level cap and the zoo of character races, but those issues are secondary.

Vilaptca · Apr 04, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Buttermilk

/not signed

I actually started laughing when I read this. Whether to keep the original expansion model or not is something ArenaNet decides, not the community.

Not trying to be rude, but I agree with this post.

A silly little petition isn't going to change the fact that they have already given up on the new chapter every 6 months. Just read the PCGamer, they don't want to do it...at all. This whole GW:EN and GW2 isn't just some experiment, they're moving on, trying to create a better game that implements a lot of things that they could never possibly add into any regular GW expansion.

You're basically asking them to continue doing something they hate.

If you read the other articles, they state that they will continue to support GW1, they've set a small team aside whose sole purpose is to continue to update the game while the other team is developing GW2. Not just skill updates, but more free updates, from what they said it sounds like they are planning things larger than our holiday events, but maybe not as big as the Sorrow's Furnace update.

Thomas.knbk · Apr 04, 2007, 02:46 PM // 14:46

The whole chapter system is stupid. A system with monthly fees is much better both from customer and business point of view.
The chapter system means that now, in order to get into high level pvp, you need to spend $150 on a game of which you don't even know if you like it. If they just made one guild wars with a $5 monthly fee it would cost just as much for anyone who played from the start, but it would be a significantly more realisitic investment to step in (only $50 instead of $150)
I hope they give GW II monthly fees, and do away with the chapter system.

SpeedyKQ · Apr 04, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Double post.

matt_longbow · Apr 04, 2007, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Hopefully they will keep running GW1 servers especially if there is alot of people still online and if its still popular enough keep coming out with expansions just for those who are still dedicated but then again that all depends on how GW2 is going to be.

Dreikki · Apr 04, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18

They will keep running GW1 servers.

And oh, almost forgot to not sign this :P

/not signed

Lonesamurai · Apr 04, 2007, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by matt_longbow

Hopefully they will keep running GW1 servers especially if there is alot of people still online and if its still popular enough keep coming out with expansions just for those who are still dedicated but then again that all depends on how GW2 is going to be.

they have already stated, ON MANY OCCASIONS, that they will keep the GW1 servers running...

Especially due to the fact that some GW1 character information (titles, etc) will be used by GW2

Appologies before i start here, but I WILL get harsh!

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Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ

I don't want to wait 2 years.

You don't, you have new content in GW:EN, plus the possibilities of other chapters before GW2 release and maybe even afterwards

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ

No new content for my existing characters. I like my characters and want to have new things to do with them. It isn't that I'm worried about "losing all of my work" - the Hall of Monuments does nothing to make me feel better.

So GW:EN is what? not new content? go away

Oh and the hall of monuments enables you to carry over information so you CAN carry on characters in one form or another, for reasons i shall explain at the end

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ

I chose to get into GW, and not any other MMO because everything is instanced. I come from a long history of single-player RPG's and I want the world to revolve around me, dammit.

And it still will DAMNIT! FFS, they are adding bonuses for those solo players like yourself that don't want to use heroes and henchies, or actually play the game as it was intended... As a TEAM BASED CO-OP GAME!

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Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ

I'm also kinda bummed about the high level cap and the zoo of character races, but those issues are secondary.

They have already stated that the skill system will, although upgraded, work along the same system... They have already stated that the level system, will be a flat gradient, so there will be very little difference between levels, its a god damned number for those that like numbers and means nothing

And character races? well cry more, cos the communtiyhave said they want to play other races, and ANet is following the strongest tenet of thier original business model: "To make the best game possible with player feedback and involvement from he community"

GG ANet, carry on!

EDIT: Please do not double post. -Swampgirl

prism2525 · Apr 04, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Appologies before i start here, but I WILL get harsh!

You don't, you have new content in GW:EN, plus the possibilities of other chapters before GW2 release and maybe even afterwards

So GW:EN is what? not new content? go away

Oh and the hall of monuments enables you to carry over information so you CAN carry on characters in one form or another, for reasons i shall explain at the end

And it still will DAMNIT! FFS, they are adding bonuses for those solo players like yourself that don't want to use heroes and henchies, or actually play the game as it was intended... As a TEAM BASED CO-OP GAME!

They have already stated that the skill system will, although upgraded, work along the same system... They have already stated that the level system, will be a flat gradient, so there will be very little difference between levels, its a god damned number for those that like numbers and means nothing

And character races? well cry more, cos the communtiyhave said they want to play other races, and ANet is following the strongest tenet of thier original business model: "To make the best game possible with player feedback and involvement from he community"

GG ANet, carry on!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Darksun · Apr 04, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

/not signed

Quality over quantity any day.

D E C E P T I V E · Apr 04, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53

I liked GW, but I think alot of players were beginning to bet bogged down with the release of campaign after campaign, and although I will miss GW, it has been the only game I have played since its release, I will be glad to see the campaign system end, it was really starting to get old. I think they are going in the right directions with GW 2, and think that GW 1 would have lasted longer if they had just gone with expansions to the original rather than adding campaign after campaign.

Keithark · Apr 04, 2007, 05:07 PM // 17:07

/don't care

Main thing is that if GW:EN is last update I will play it for about 2 months, finish up on some titles and items I want and then buy LOTR and play it...if it sucks then when GW2 comes out I will try it, but if LOTR is as good as friends say then GW lost a customer due to the extended wait between new chapters/games. And yes I am sure they could care less if they lose one customer, just stating my opinion.

tyche7 · Apr 04, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

Although I would definitely like them to continue to add expansions or chapters to Guild Wars 1 as I have invested so much time and effort into it already and I have loved every minute of it -- I'd have to say that keeping them on a timeline of 6 months and only 6 months is a little stringent and unrealistic.

I DO want them to continue to keep adding stuff and improving GW1 when GW2 comes out -- full-heartedly! But I don't necessarily think a 6 month policy is the best either.

/unsigned

Winterclaw · Apr 04, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

A silly little petition isn't going to change the fact that they have already given up on the new chapter every 6 months. Just read the PCGamer, they don't want to do it...at all. This whole GW:EN and GW2 isn't just some experiment, they're moving on, trying to create a better game that implements a lot of things that they could never possibly add into any regular GW expansion.

You are right it won't. But what it will do is show them there are still people that would support the original game and buy more products for it once the sequal comes out. People have a lot of time and memories with GW and not everyone wants to move on to GW2 or to completely abandon all that they did.

And if you ask me, it doesn't have to be every six months on the dot or a full new chapter (which would take a bunch of time). It could be a sorrow's furnace sized expansion that maybe has a few new skills and would fill up some of the unused areas of the maps or tie up some lose ends or whatnot.

Quote:

If you read the other articles, they state that they will continue to support GW1, they've set a small team aside whose sole purpose is to continue to update the game while the other team is developing GW2. Not just skill updates, but more free updates, from what they said it sounds like they are planning things larger than our holiday events, but maybe not as big as the Sorrow's Furnace update.

My understanding was it would be holiday updates and weekend events. You know, tiny little events that happen every once in a great while, but nothing really substantial or lasting.

EDIT: It would also be wise for Anet to show more than a little support for the original GW in case GW2 falls short of the mark. Let's face it, sequals don't always do well... GW2 could be as loved as factions is loved when compared to prophecies. All these changes they are doing might not mesh.

And Lone Samurai, the charr are the only new race I know anything about so from aside from them, I can't say much postive about having new races as an option.

Predatorus Viktus · Apr 04, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

The whole chapter system is stupid. A system with monthly fees is much better both from customer and business point of view.
The chapter system means that now, in order to get into high level pvp, you need to spend $150 on a game of which you don't even know if you like it. If they just made one guild wars with a $5 monthly fee it would cost just as much for anyone who played from the start, but it would be a significantly more realisitic investment to step in (only $50 instead of $150)
I hope they give GW II monthly fees, and do away with the chapter system.

They stated in their interviews that GW2 will remain free of monthly fees. Sorry to disappoint you. If it will make you feel better, you can send me $5 a month! ;P

Predatorus Viktus
"The Father," First Order of Blood Knights

"There is an ancient Repticus saying, that something lasts only as long as the last person remembers it. My people have come to trust memory over history. Memory, like fire, is radiant and immutable. Those who renounce the flame of memory in order to put out the dangerous fire of truth: Beware these men, for they are dangerous themselves... and unwise. There are false histories written on the blood of those who might remember, and on those who seek the truth."

MithranArkanere · Apr 05, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

The whole chapter system is stupid. A system with monthly fees is much better both from customer and business point of view.
The chapter system means that now, in order to get into high level pvp, you need to spend $150 on a game of which you don't even know if you like it. If they just made one guild wars with a $5 monthly fee it would cost just as much for anyone who played from the start, but it would be a significantly more realisitic investment to step in (only $50 instead of $150)
I hope they give GW II monthly fees, and do away with the chapter system.

Fortunatelly, that never happen.

One of the points that makes people buy GW is that in the box says:
"No monthly fees".

D E C E P T I V E · Apr 08, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

How did fees even get into this thread???? The thread is not about fees, and fees could be charged regardless of what type of path a net wants to follow, chapter or campaign based, or just 1 permanent base with periodic expansions. I think GW 2 is going the right direction in 1 permanent base with periodic expansions though, the whole campaign grind in GW1 was getting really old, and Im glad they arent going to have monthly fees. I would like to see them continue to add expansions to GW 1 that just simply add a little to the existing campaigns, but pleas no more chapter grinds.

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Apr 08, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

/notsigned. 6 months is too fast for campaigns, I hate it.