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Old Apr 03, 2007, 02:18 AM // 02:18   #1
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Default Petition to keep the new expansion per 6 months philosophy

I read somewhere that with the new game, ANet is planning to scrap the idea of having a new chapter every month. One of their reasons was that not everyone wanted one that quickly. Another is a lot of people don't get a chapter finished in 6 months.

Well I'd like to ask them to keep it and here's why: they've got 2 titles they can work on and continue to support. Take SOE, they are still making EQ1 expansions every now and then even though EQ2 is still out. ANet can do just the same thing, but instead of making a chapter/expansion for the same game every six months, they can switch games with each expansion.

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Winter '08 - GW2 releases
Summer '09 - next GW1 chapter/expansion
Winter 08' - GW2 goes to cantha
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 03:04 AM // 03:04   #2
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I want full focus on GW2, personally. Splitting up the team to work on all that would lower the quality of everything they do or it would take a really long time for new content. Theres one more option which is the worst one.. the GW1 chapters turn out half assed because they put most of the focus on GW2.

None of those situations sound favorable to me.
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 04:10 AM // 04:10   #3
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i like the idea, i just dont expect it to really happen... free gameing = less employees / less servers.. their money comes from building on what is new and what is best... only way i could see it actualy happening is if they started charging to play, there fore have an actual staff to work on gw1 still, while making new and better for gw2... personaly, i am shocked that not even 2 yrs after release of first game, they r already talking about release of second.... (new areas and such every 6 months lasted 2 games, now expansion leading to next full blown new game) makes u wonder... 2 yrs after gw2 comes out... they gonna be working on a third....

ok, sorry if im venting, its late...
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27   #4
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Here's the thing though. The developers said they didn't like the model. That was one of the largest reasons for scrapping it. As well as it being difficult to constantly add a "world ending" scheme every six months.

Sort of reminds me of the standard action series "villain of the week" model. Personally, I'm glad to see it gone.
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35   #5
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Here's the thing though. The developers said they didn't like the model. That was one of the largest reasons for scrapping it. As well as it being difficult to constantly add a "world ending" scheme every six months.

Sort of reminds me of the standard action series "villain of the week" model. Personally, I'm glad to see it gone.
I agree whole-heartedly. Not to mention, don't you guys ever want to see significant changes to the gameplay? That simply wouldn't be possible with new campaigns or with expansions. There'd be no connectivity. Take this for example... in GW2, supposedly Rangers will be able to climb and shoot from trees, something I'd consider to be a significant change to gameplay. If they implemented that change into a new campaign or expansion, it would be impossible for it to carry over to the other campaigns.

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Old Apr 03, 2007, 07:24 AM // 07:24   #6
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Anet has tried the six month system for some time now and they have decided that it's just not allowing them to do include everything they would've wanted into the game. They know what they're doing, if they say it's not enough time- it's not. Would you really rather them release half-cocked expansions that people would be disappointed with and cause them to stop supporting GW1? Or spend a little time to fine-tune it to perfection ensuring the viability of the franchise?
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27   #7
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Anet has tried the six month system for some time now and they have decided that it's just not allowing them to do include everything they would've wanted into the game. They know what they're doing, if they say it's not enough time- it's not. Would you really rather them release half-cocked expansions that people would be disappointed with and cause them to stop supporting GW1? Or spend a little time to fine-tune it to perfection ensuring the viability of the franchise?
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 07:32 AM // 07:32   #8
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I don't wanna play half of both games. Playing all of one is much more appealing.
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 02:02 PM // 14:02   #9
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Hm... I won't disagree to some spare upgrades in time to time... but no real plot content... just some fixes and maybe a next quest or something...

There will be some people still buying the game as long as it is in stock, after all.
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #10
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from what ANET says GW1 will end with GWEN and you completely left EotN off you release list, and GW2 will not need to go to cantha, because of the way it will be set up, and even if they did they would relese it in Winter "09"
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 02:35 PM // 14:35   #11
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i typed alot lastnight, hahaha, bit of jiberish from what i wanted to make as a point...

I think this forum was started preemptively because the true fate of GW is unknown... they say they wont turn off the servers and such, but i think alot of ppl r expecting them to just let GW die... like i said, this is all assuming...

Some games have disappeared but others have not...

Prime example is Everquest.... released 1999, with expansions to this day coming out every 6 months... Everquest II was released in 2004 and have had expansions about every 6 months also....

i think the OP is trying to get the point across that there r alot of us out there that love GW, have invested alot of time into it, and would hate to see it just go away... i know, its just a game, blah blah blah...

I honestly believe that once GW2 gets going, Anet will assess how active GW is, then either charge / month as other companies do, and or then sell off the rights to the original game....

Once again, its all up in the air, noone knows what will happen.... but i feel that GW shouldn't just be cast off to the side....
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31   #12
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I sorta would only want one game... unless GW2 sucks insanely then this is signed until then...

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Old Apr 03, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42   #13
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I expect it is too late for this to matter, but

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Every six months was just about perfect timing to keep me interested. Now I'm looking for another game to tide me over until GW:EN. And I'd be much happier if they threw away the whole GW2 idea.
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Old Apr 03, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #14
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I read somewhere that with the new game, ANet is planning to scrap the idea of having a new chapter every month. One of their reasons was that not everyone wanted one that quickly. Another is a lot of people don't get a chapter finished in 6 months.

Well I'd like to ask them to keep it and here's why: they've got 2 titles they can work on and continue to support. Take SOE, they are still making EQ1 expansions every now and then even though EQ2 is still out. ANet can do just the same thing, but instead of making a chapter/expansion for the same game every six months, they can switch games with each expansion.

Example
Winter '08 - GW2 releases
Summer '09 - next GW1 chapter/expansion
Winter 08' - GW2 goes to cantha
etc
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I agree with their new philosophy and their reasoning behind it. If you read the May issue of PC Gamer, they address this. In a nutshell, if they have to concentrate on new content in the form of expansions every 6 months, they will never be able to do the great things they have planned for GW2. GW2 will have content updated live on the servers, driving the existing and new storylines, and changing the world. I am with the GW team on this.

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Old Apr 04, 2007, 12:46 AM // 00:46   #15
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so far GW2 sounds like total junk to me... with that said my sources are a tidbit less than reliable

from what i understand of what the OP said: was that he wants to see more chapters for GW1 while GW2 is being developed. Maybe not EVERY 6 months, but they at least come out with them every once in a while.

i would like it if they scrapped GW2 unless it is almost eerily similar to GW1 and if it is i would of had rather them just worked on GW1 until it was on par with anet's original idea for GW2 (without the races+non-instanced!)

personally i do not finish and fully explore the chapters, i am rather rushed. i am quite casual on gaming compared to some people i have met and i dont really want to have to play as much as them just to get everything i wanted FOR PVE (PvP is somewhat easy to catch up with as you can read about the recent gvg builds etc.). i have only one character through NF and 2 about 1/3 of the way. i havent gotten through SF on any char, i have gotten through the deep and urgoz' a few times just for the fun of it. i would rather have them come out maybe every 9 months, 10 months, maybe even during the summers when casual people have some time to commit to the game. this is of course just my opinion.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07   #16
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And I'd be much happier if they threw away the whole GW2 idea.
Care to explain why? PM me the reason
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 09:36 AM // 09:36   #17
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I'd rather they took the extra time to produce a great product than rush it and bring out something less impressive than it could have been.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41   #18
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I actually started laughing when I read this. Whether to keep the original expansion model or not is something ArenaNet decides, not the community.
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 09:43 AM // 09:43   #19
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I think Anet has the right idea
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Old Apr 04, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46   #20
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I would like to see GW1 expansions (not campaigns), of course. But I'll have a look at GW2 first. They will see how active good old GW1 is, and I wouldn't mind if they try to tap into a secondary source of income by releasing a new expansion every year or something.

I have to clarify on the developers words here, at least on how I read them. They specifically mentioned the 6-month-release on campaigns, which means full-fledged, stand-alone games meant to attract new players. Content-Updates through an expansion, such as GW:EN would be, would eliminate most of the factors they dislike in the current system.

I do, however, agree with those people mentioning that there are limited resources, and that they like one whole game rather than two halved ones.

So: If the GW1 servers are still buzzing with activity, half a year after GW2 release, maybe they will release a GW1 expansion. It would be win-win. Additional income on the side-line, new content to make players happy.

But before I do more speculations on what I'll do beyond preordering GW:EN, I'll wait what the future brings. I want to see how GW2 is. Maybe it will be so great I'll never go back to GW1. Maybe I'll stay with GW1 and hope for another expansion like GW:EN.

One thing is sure: The "one campaign per half year" system is dead.
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