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stuntharley · Apr 11, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

How do you conjure earth? you use it and your weapon turns into GW continents?

Its impossible to "conjure" earth... think about it in a logical way

Mr_Unlucky · Apr 11, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Most likely, actually im sure its because they made Earth atleast basically a defensive line. Conjure skills are offensive, but i quess it would work well with that stupid superarmorhealstonedaggers e/d build.

Horseman Of War · Apr 11, 2007, 10:25 AM // 10:25

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Originally Posted by VinnyRidira

Why not have conjure earth cause the foe struck fall down or be blinded by the dust. A Duster Barrage R/E. Maybe the animation was too hard for the dev.

/signed for more animations that have the look of the obs flesh shards.

Skuld · Apr 11, 2007, 10:27 AM // 10:27

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I have to agree. Why no conjure earth?

I have a sneeking suspision its because of some daft idea it would unbalance PvP! As per usual, when something effects PvP its nerfed or removed, regardless of effects on PvE.

I could be wrong, but thats my opinion.

how the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO can you cry about something that was never in the game and blame it on pvp?

freekedoutfish · Apr 11, 2007, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by Skuld

how the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO can you cry about something that was never in the game and blame it on pvp?

Freedom of speach, opinion and speculation.

Thomas.knbk · Apr 11, 2007, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by Mitchel

Who uses the conjures anyway except for grown up wammo's?

With the recent buffs, just about every warrior in the game.

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Originally Posted by Raxxman

and there is no good reason why Conjure Earth doesn't exist.

Yes there is.
All the elements are not equal. Earth has way more defensive utility than Fire and Air. Frost is on the edge as well. It would be more powerful for the same reason Zealous Benediction is powerful in prot, but would suck in healing. I can already see the W/E's with Conjure Earth and Grasping Earth walking around. Maybe even Stoneflesh Aura.

Overpowered would it be.

Furthermore, it would make those retarded earth tanks in RA even more annoying. Ban them they should.

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Originally Posted by Realm of Fiery Doom

And someone please tell me that the following Earth spells were created for defense, to give me another good laugh.

[skill]Shockwave[/skill]
[skill]Obsidian Flame[/skill]
[skill]Sandstorm[/skill]

That's why Sandstorm is elite. It's a fire storm in a defensive line. In Fire, it would suck.

Sophitia Leafblade · Apr 11, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Personally i think there should be a conjure earth and also there should be a Mind Quake Skill, to make Earth skills equal to the others and make them a more valid choice for offensive use.

see we have
[skill]Mind Shock[/skill] and [skill]Mind Freeze[/skill] and [skill]Mind Burn[/skill]

and yet no this one:
[skill]Mind Quake[/skill]

Darth Kukulkan · Apr 11, 2007, 11:23 AM // 11:23

/signed
I'm getting bored of always the same morons salying earth is for defense

Raxxman · Apr 11, 2007, 11:45 AM // 11:45

atm I think the only conjure having widespread use in pvp is conjure fire in builds with mark of rodgort (as has been pointed out). I don't think conjure earth would be that overpowering.

Also I don't think grasping earth + conjure is really that powerful, more just a good combo.

Thomas.knbk · Apr 11, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48

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Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan

I'm getting bored of always the same morons salying earth is for defense

I think I know who the real moron is here.

TheBaron82 · Apr 11, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48

Conjure Earth make no sense logically speaking. If Conjure earth is added all wars will have built in snares and get boost in damage. A bit OP imo.

tre_peter · Apr 15, 2007, 11:30 AM // 11:30

I can't help laughing at the wannabe physicists.

It's a game, it doesn't need to make sense. Infact, I'd go as far as saying it doesn't want to make sense, if that would stand in the way of balance/fun element.

Conjure Earth could exist, but it would leave too many options open for over-powered builds.

Darkhell153 · Apr 15, 2007, 02:45 PM // 14:45

I just noticed something. Earth Is for Defense!!!! Ever notice that eruption causes blindness defending your allies and yourself from attacks. and the obsidian flame, the only real high damage earth attack causes weakness on you? Why? Because it's not meant to be an offensive element.

And tre peter is right, the game isn't supposed to make sense it's supposed to be insane in every way xD that's the only reason I play it :P

Alex the Great · Apr 15, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

I think I know who the real moron is here.

wow......earth is accually ok for pve no joke. I played through factions on my earth ele with armour of earth, stoneflesh, mystic regen, ele attunement, eath attunement, stoning, dragon stomp/earthquake, obsideon flame.

its like an east button for pve

wards help in almost all the hard missions especially ones with huge bosses.

o btw no conjure earth is because every1 would have a double strenght stone daggers because it would hit twice lol.

i can see it now.......dual attunes conjure earth stone daggers spammer

NEW META /run

LifeInfusion · Apr 15, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Okay, people you can stop bickering.

/Drumroll

The REAL reason for conjure earth not being a skill is many of the earth skills rely on enchantments. Notice that Air/Water/Fire don't rely on enchantments as much?

Well way back when conjures had the pretext of "lose all enchantments", conjures weren't viable in the Earth line.

Back in the day, the skills went along the lines of
"Lose all enchantments. For 60 seconds, if you are wielding a (damage type) weapon, your attacks strike for an additional ____ (damage type) damage."

And there you have it. The REAL reason why there is no conjure earth.

HawkofStorms · Apr 15, 2007, 04:20 PM // 16:20

^ Life Infusion makes a valid point.

I disagree partly with Thomas. Earth does have a lot of nice defensive buffs (wards are an especially nice thing in PvE). But it still has plenty of deccent offensive options too. While fire is more of a cludegeon, earth provides some benefits to the party, making the monks job easier, while providing moderate damage. I think people are arguing with you Thomas not because they disagree that earth is defensively oriented, but because you are ignoring that their is some offensive side to it.

Curse You · Apr 15, 2007, 05:25 PM // 17:25

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Originally Posted by Darkhell153

and the obsidian flame, the only real high damage earth attack causes weakness on you? Why? Because it's not meant to be an offensive element.

Weakness =/= Exhaustion. Get your facts straight.

Earth may be primarily for defense, but try telling me that Stone Daggers or Earthquake/Dragon's Stomp is defensive. Sure Earthquake/Dragon's Stomp knocks down, but I think we all know that knockdown is not the best for defense, it's best for offense. I'd also like to see your reasoning for Stone Daggers (because it lets you maintain kinetic armour is not a reason, you can use other spells to do that).

MithranArkanere · Apr 15, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

Earth is about Strenght, like a hammer.
Strenght to endure hits.
Strenght to crush your enemies.
Strenght to stand your ground.
Strenght to blindfold your enemies with one hand in the middle of a battle, while you pummel them with the othe hand. XD
Strenght to even go throught the strongest armor!

'That' is earth about.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 17, 2007, 07:44 PM // 19:44

why not
for 60 seconds you begin to throw dirt clumps at your opponents for X amount of dmg......

I mean come ON! NO ONE WANTS TO GET DIRT THROWN AT THEM!

its like fighting dirty..... oh wait it would imbalance the game nvmd. -.-

I'm also for the defensive earth spell of stone to the groin...... For X seconds your male opponent is knocked down and cannot get up.... only to roll around on the ground screaming.
of course it would be an elite.

oooo and you would sooooo have the cry $%%@ stuff over their heads!
damn I should be the new skills person.
move over izzy!

Strange Guy · Apr 17, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Elementalists aren't powerful enough to conjure something as great as earth itself. Only the most uber ones are able to do it. I wouldn't surprised if the final boss of GW:EN uses conjure earth, and elite skill that adds +10...70...90 damage

Uhmm I do use Conjure for HA buddy! And if you think of it as a noob skill then u would say my rank 10 is worthless >_^ and 10-20 fame per run is nothing!

I do agree conjure Earth should exist!