Curse

Brandon1107 · Apr 18, 2007, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Backgorund
Devinare's were no such thing until the 6th god was given her powers. Followers of Kormir, Goddess of Truth, they are known to have all knowledge, blessed by the 5 gods. They spoke the truth of their foes and allies and forced balance around them. They soon created magic that was unlike any other. They send portals from the heavens that was said to be ultimate power. They thought it was blasphemy. Yet, the total opposite. Devinare's soon became outcasts yet the balance on the battle field.

New Concepts

Portal Spells
Portal Spells are powerful spells released from the heavens. Unlike any other spell these are obstructions so nothing can be shot through it. These spells affect the people who run through them and are nearby to them. When in their nearby area all foes near them move 25% slower. These spells last a while and when they end they send out a powerful charge.

Truth Signal
These skills work only when target ally or foe is touched. This affect lasts for a while and whenever the ally or foe touches another ally or foe it spreads.

Armor, Health, Energy, and Misc.
Armor: 70 (because they will be using skills that are very upfront)
Health: 480
Energy: 30
Energy Pips: 3
Weapon of Choice: Staff or Wand and Focus

Insignia's

Truthful Insignia
+10 Armor (while no hexes are in skill bar)
-5 Armor (while hexes are in skill bar)
+5 (while enchanted)

Oracle's Insignia
+5 Armor (with 1 portal activated nearby you)
+10 Armor (with 2 portals activated nearby you)
+15 Armor (with 3 or more portals activated nearby you)

Adherent's Insignia
+15 Armor (if nearby someone of the same class)
-15 Armor (if nearby a demon)

Sinful Insignia
+5 Armor (if there is an ally near you with a Truth Signal on them)
+10 Armor (if there is a foe near you with a Truth Signal on them)
+15 Armor (if there is a foe and an ally near you with a Truth Singal on them)

Attributes

Energy Absorbtion - For every point into this attribute .5% of the damage against you is turned into energy.

Omniscient Prayers - This attribute has no inherit affect. Many skills in this attribute relate to creating rifts from the gods and absorbing power.

Truthful Prayers - This attribute has no inherit affect. Many skills in this attribute relate to balancing the battle field.

Loyalty Prayers - This attribute has no inherit affect. Many skills in this attribute relate to impowering allies and weakening foes.

Skills

Energy Absorbtion

[Elite Signet] Signet of Honesty: For each hex in your skillbar you gain 3...5 energy and 5...30 health. (maximum: 25 energy; 120 health)
1/4c 15r

[Elite Stance] Goddess' Wisdom: For 12...34 seconds your Truth Signals and Portal Spells last 6...44% longer, but cost 50...15% more energy.
5e 40r

[Portal Spell] Beam of Righteousness: You create a portal from the heavens at target foes area. All foes nearby this move 25% slower. Whenever a foe enters the portal they lose all enchantments and all hexes. This portal lasts for 60 seconds. When the portal ends all foes in that area are knocked down and take 20...43 damage for each enchantment and hex on them.
25e 1c 30r

[Shout] "No More Lies!": All allies within earshot gain 12...33 health for each hex on them.
10e 15r

[Spell] Sympathetic Bond: If target ally has an enchantment on them it is renewed and 3...1 of your hexes are renewed.
10e 1c 12r

Omniscient Prayers

[Elite Portal Spell] Light of Purity: For 60 seconds at target foes location all foes' allies nearby it move 25% slower. Whenever a foe enters the portal they are teleported to another portal in the area. Whenever allies enter the portal their enchantments are renewed. When this portal expires all nearby foes are knocked down and take 20...88 damage.
25e 1c 45r

[Elite Portal Spell] False Blasphemy: For 60 seconds at target foes location all foes' allies nearby it move 25% slower. When ever a foe enters the portal they are knocked down for 4 seconds and take 40...112 damage. When this portal expires foes nearby it are healed from their conditions.
25e 2c 45r

[Portal Spell] Death Stick: For 60 seconds at target foes location all foe's allies nearby it move 25% slower. Whenever a foe enters a portal with a death penalty they suffer a deep wound for 5...33 seconds. Allies who enter the portal are knocked down but are relieved of one condition. When this portal expires all nearby allies lose 1 hex but all their conditions are renewed.
25e 1c 15r

[Enchantment Spell] Kormir's Promise: For 120 seconds if target ally dies in this time they suffer no death penalty but are bonded to you. If they die this enchantment is renewed and if they die again in this time you die with them.
5e 1c 2r

[Portal Spell] Shadow Deliverence: For 60 seconds at target foes location all foe's nearby allies nearby move 25% slower. Whenever a creature move through it they are teleported to a random portal nearby if they suffer a hex. When the creatures get out of the portal they become dazed for 5...11 seconds. When this portal spell ends all nearby creatures are knocked down.
15e 2c 30r

Truthful Prayers

[Elite Truth Signal] Withdraw Lies: Target touched foe loses 2...7% of their health each time they cast a spell. If they touch an ally to them they also have this condition. If they touch an ally of yours that ally gains the health all the foes that suffer from this condition for 30 seconds.
5e 30r

[Elite Truth Signal] Sneer: Target touched foe is knocked down when ever they become adjecant to an ally. This condition is passed to a fellow ally if they become adjecant to eachother. When the condition is passed the person who passed it is relieved of this condition. When a foe gets the condition it lasts for 3...17 seconds.
10e 30r

[Truth Signal] Absent Truth: Target touched ally loses all conditions. When ever an ally touches an ally they have this condition. Whenever they cast an enchantment they lose 0...2 conditions. This lasts for 20 seconds.
10r 30r.

[Truth Signal] Depth of Nightmares: For 30 seconds target touched foe suffers 1..3 health degeneration. Whenever a foe touches one of their allies they also suffer this. Whenever a foe with this condition is knocked down they suffer a deep wound for 3...15 seconds.
5e 40r

[Stance] Miscreant's Leeway: For 6...18 seconds you have a 25% chance to miss with attacks and a 25% chance to evade attacks. Your Portal Spells recharge 5...34% faster.
10e 20r

Loyalty Prayers

[Elite Shout] "You Have The Power!": For each ally, their next 2 skills attributes are boosted by 3
5e 12r

[Enchantment Spell] Exchange Sins: For 20 seconds target ally does +5...18 damage when attacking and you have -18...5 base armor.
10e 2r 4r

[Hex] Dented Armor: Target foes and their nearby allies armor has -10 armor against the elements for 12...22 seconds.
10e 1c 20r

[Enchantment Spell] Air of Apologies: Target ally is healed for 14...45 health each time they cast a spell that targets a foe for 2...10 seconds.
10e 1c 18r

[Skill] Kormir's Kiss: Target ally loses 0...2 hexes for each hex one random foe in the area is suffering.

Appearence
(Coming Soon!)

[M]agna_[C]arta · Apr 18, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Intresting Sounds a little like my Sealer and Judge^^.

Rating:
8.1/10

Here this is you're best CC, better than the Fervor^^.
But some of it are Overpowered you might wan't to nerf it down^^.
I really Like it^^, This is the Only CC which made me wan't to play if it ever releases in GW except for Dubby's Work^^.
Kudos!, Keep up the Creative Work^^!

Brandon1107 · Apr 18, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Thank you

i'll have to read your Sealer/Judge.

Just wondering, what is overpowered about it. Because I agree too just wondering what skills or attribute/energy/health you think is overpowered.

Mordakai · Apr 18, 2007, 09:22 PM // 21:22

I think Energy gaining primary attributes are overpowered in general, ESPECIALLY if it negates damage as well.

I would go with Damage negation solely, it seems to fit in with the more "front-line" mentality of this class.

The Elite skills are also overpowered.

Quote:

[Elite Signet] Signet of Honesty: For each hex and enchantment in your skillbar you gain 3...7 energy and 20...55 health. (maximum: 28 energy; 120 health) 1/4c 10r

seems too much like Dervish; nerf to be for Hex only? Oh, and longer recharge for sure (20 sec?)

Quote:

[Elite Portal Spell] Light of Purity: For 60 seconds at target foes location all allies nearby it move 25% slower. Whenever a foe enters the portal they are teleported to another portal in the area. Whenever allies enter the portal their enchantments are renewed. When this portal expires all nearby foes are knocked down and take 20...88 damage. 15e 1c 45r

I like the portal idea a lot! Very original. However, this sounds pretty brutal (cast in middle of enemy Warriors, not only do they get sent away, but if they come back in time for it to expire, they get knocked down!)

I really don't know how to "fix" this, I don't know if other classes will get "anti-portal" skills... if not, then Portals become very powerful on their own.

Quote:

[Elite Truth Signal] Withdraw Lies: Target touched foe loses 2...7% of their health each time they cast a spell. If they touch an ally to them they also have this condition. If they touch an ally of yours that ally gains the health all the foes that suffer from this condition for 30 seconds.
5e 30r

At least take off the last bit ( If they touch an ally of yours that ally gains the health all the foes that suffer from this condition for 30 seconds.) The spreading to enemies is pretty harsh too, but it is an elite... (more energy cost?)

Quote:

[Elite Shout] "You Have The Power!": For each ally, their next 2 skills' attributes are boosted by 3. 5e 12r

Holy crap! Is there a cap, or can people end up getting a 19 attribute?!? (or even higher with blessings; +1 att. with Items!)

Either cap it at 17, or just make it a +1 boost for their next skill (most people have a couple of maxed attributes anyway, so this would be truly unbalanced).

EDIT: Just read [M]agna_[C]arta's Sealer. A much better concept, IMO, and frankly it seems you "borrowed" some of his concepts!

(sorry, for the misspelling [M]agna_[C]arta. I still think your concept is better, though, even if the similarities are coincidental).

Brandon1107 · Apr 18, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

i did not borrow anything for one thing.
i do have to change some of the elite skills.
i am adding mroe skills right now.
there are skills that boost attributes (ex. Glyph of Elemental Power - Boost your next 5 spells attributes by 2 for 15 seconds! That is up to 18 if it is maxed! not even an elite)

[M]agna_[C]arta · Apr 18, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Mordakai, My name is Magna Carta not "Magna Carter".

And Brandon he already spoke for me^^, Also some skills last too long, and some you could just plain it out^^.

=DNC=Trucker · Apr 18, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Interesting concept.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon1107

Energy Absorbtion - For every 4 points into this attribute 2% of the damage against you is negated and turned into energy.

@ 16 points : 80dmg = 6 energy, 74 dmg taken. Most 5 energy heals will heal for more than 74. Seems like too much energy gained.

System_Crush · Apr 19, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39

in addition to trucker why only every 4 points?
The paragon primary already stinks because it only does something every 2 levels.
Yours would have even more annoying limitations.
Why not every 2 levels 1%? That in the least would make it a little more usable.
But as trucker said 1% every 2 levels in powerfull in energy gain, on top of that it also reduces the damage taken.

Perhaps you should base it of absorbing non-physical damage, or someother thing which is a source of magical energy.

Quote:

[Elite Shout] "You Have The Power!": For each ally, their next 2 skills attributes are boosted by 32
5e 12r

ROFL

I know that is a typing mistake as it said 3 yesterday, but ohhhhhh the evilness that could be acomplised with this

level 55 fiends and horrors *drool*

Quote:

[Enchantment Spell] Air of Apologies: Target ally is healed for 40...93 health each time they cast a spell that targets a foe for 2...10 seconds.
10e 1/4c 12r

this would be soooo powerfull if you use it with a flare spam, en overpowered in conduration with normal spells to, needs much longer recharge and casting time.

Quote:

[Skill] Kormir's Kiss: Target ally loses 0...2 hexes for each hex target foe is suffering.

How do you target 2 things at the same time? not saying you can't it would be good if you could, but how do you plan to make it work in GW.

Quote:

[Spell] Knowledgeable Descent: If target foe has an enchantment on them it is renewed and 3...1 of your hexes are renewed.
10e 1c 12r

What? why do I want to renew a foe's enchantments?

Other than that the naming could be a bit better, I think that any attributes that end with prayers sound way to monkish.

There now the ciritism is done, it is a cool idea

Quote:

Armor: 70
Energy Pips: 3
Weapon of Choice: Staff or Wand and Focus

A battle caster, cool! somehow I don't remeber anyone giving mage weapons to a 70AL 3 pip class(I could be wrong) I wonder why it has not been done before...

The portal stuff would likely look mighty impressive, and can probably be very strategically used.

The enchantment renewing could be extremely usefull and a good addition to the game.

It is you best work and not bad at all, still you should keep improving it.

Dubby · Apr 19, 2007, 08:49 AM // 08:49

ridiculously overpowered.

*thumbs down*

Brandon1107 · Apr 19, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

thank you Crush.

please dont say its overpowered if your not going to elabortate on what IS overpowered.

I need to revise all my typos. lvl 55 minions lol.
and I am altering the attributes

Darkhell153 · Apr 19, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00

it's intersting I'll give you that. (even though you mispelled [m]agna [c]arta's name :P) . This class seems like a mixture of the dervish and paragon bringing in the power of the gods and using shouts and chants. It just seems too much like what's already here. You might want to edit loyalty and truthful prayers to make it less like a paragon/dervish and more like it's own class.

Brandon1107 · Apr 19, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

one of the biggest thing that has annoyed me latley is when people say something but dont give an answer why they think that.
like if someone said you are stupid but doesnt tell you why they think that...that just annoys me

so when you say it is like a dervish or paragon or both, PLEASE ELABORATE.

and i have 2 shouts??? the warrior has more than that, i guess they made the paragon too much like a warrior

Darkhell153 · Apr 19, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

If you actually read I already stated why it was like a paragon and a dervish. They already have a proffession that uses the pwoer of the gods. A DERVISH!
They already have (yet another) class that summons the power of the gods yet again. A PARAGON!!! they have the god-users all wrapped up so make something new!

Brandon1107 · Apr 20, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

my concept classes only uses the powers of KORMIR! Read everything. geese.
Paragon does summon power of the gods. that is only the dervish who uses all the gods power.

ranger- melendru
monk- dwayna
warrior- balthazaar
mesmer- lyssa
necromancer- grenth

dervish - all gods

devinare - Kormir

all gods summon power of the gods. read up on your Guild Wars.

thank you im done arguing.

[M]agna_[C]arta · Apr 20, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27

The Paragon doesn't summon the Power of the God.
They don't even have a skill with a connection with the Gods.
Then soon their was a Connection when the 6th On was Promoted.
But their was already a Paragon before the 6th one, So I dunno who do they worship.
So it sounds like Paragons are Godless but Touched by the Gods, Weird.
And I don't find anything Paragon-Dervish Skill here.

Brandon1107 · Apr 20, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46

THANK YOU Magna.

now that, that is cleared up I am off to make more skills. check out the first post more skills to be added

Alex the Great · Apr 20, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by System_Crush

A battle caster, cool! somehow I don't remeber anyone giving mage weapons to a 70AL 3 pip class(I could be wrong) I wonder why it has not been done before...

touch rangers anyone?

portal ideas would seem kinda powerful if you put them at a choke point, especially in pve where the monsters just run through........

that means more AI upgrades.......
and more angry nukers........
and nukers are not easy to work with when they are angry
/runs from cynn

overall 7/10

Darkhell153 · Apr 20, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Well all in all since I don't even like Kormir as a god anyway I'll give this class a 6/10. Can't give it higher because I don't like Telling the Truth :P

Brandon1107 · Apr 20, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Grrrrreat reason!

eww please don't conpare the class to a touch ranger. that is the LAST thing i want it to be compared to. most unskillful builds out there and anyone who detests that i'll be happy to hear why. lol. but that is a pretty funny co-winky-dink by the way.

Darkhell153 · Apr 21, 2007, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Actually touch rangers don't make that bad a build if you know how to work it. Otherwise yea they suck :P

And I stil don't like the truth so I'm docking my rating to 5/10