Curse

Winterclaw · Apr 26, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

In the past there have been a number of suggestions to have 7 heroes in the party at once. In once sense this makes sense because a number of people will use henchies anyways. In another it doesn't because it killed grouping.

So here's what I propose, allow players to have 7 heroes, but only if they have both NF and GWEN and did a number of quests to earn the right. For example there could be a 7 level leader of heroes title and with each level after the 3rd you gain in it, you can have another hero in the party. It might have added benefits as well such as slightly improved hero AI or some such thing.

At the least this would encourage people to buy GWEN and NF if they don't have both.

freekedoutfish · Apr 26, 2007, 09:27 AM // 09:27

I didnt have a clue what you meant by GWEN when I first read that. I thought you were refering to our beloved Guild Wars character.

Im thinking, "you want us to guy GWEN?"!

But ok I know you meant that 4th expansion.

But one part of your suggesting is a bit redundant because you already need NF to get heroes (at this time).

So your suggesting once your buy "GWEN", that we get the ability to use a full 7 heroe team? Sounds fine to me.

But I think once "GWEN" is released, the need to have NF to get heroes will be removed.

I expect Heroes will be accessible using "GWEN" regardless of whether you have NF because they've already stated they are adding new heroes and that you dont need NF to play the expansion.

/signed for adding 7 man heroe teams once "GWEN" is released.
/not signed at need NF, because they wont have that restriction anyway.

MithranArkanere · Apr 26, 2007, 09:44 AM // 09:44

They could make it so certain ranks of sunspear allowed you to add more heroes, instead.

Ranks 0..1: 1 Hero
Rank 2: 2 Heroes
Ranks 3, 4, 5: 3 Heroes
Ranks 6, 7: 4 Heroes
Ranks 8: 5 Heroes
Ranks 9: 6 Heroes
Rank 10: 7 Heroes

Or maybe making Rank 10 allow one more hero, and then a new title in GW:EN allow one more hero per certain ranks.

legion_rat · Apr 26, 2007, 11:54 AM // 11:54

/signed for mithrans idea

~the rat~

bhavv · Apr 26, 2007, 11:59 AM // 11:59

/signed for Mithrans idea too, that makes sense as a reward for the sunspear title.

scottyboysn · Apr 26, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

/signed

I like both the sunspear title idea and the buying GW:EN idea as well.
GW:EN could allow 4 heroes, NF 3. Sounds perfect to me=)

freekedoutfish · Apr 26, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

They could make it so certain ranks of sunspear allowed you to add more heroes, instead.

Ranks 0..1: 1 Hero
Rank 2: 2 Heroes
Ranks 3, 4, 5: 3 Heroes
Ranks 6, 7: 4 Heroes
Ranks 8: 5 Heroes
Ranks 9: 6 Heroes
Rank 10: 7 Heroes

Or maybe making Rank 10 allow one more hero, and then a new title in GW:EN allow one more hero per certain ranks.

No no no , please no!!!

I hate working on grinding titles like that. I dont want to be forced to spend hours farming sunspear points just to be able to use more heroes. Its boring and tedious.

I wouldnt see Anet incouraging it.

Etta · Apr 26, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38

/signed with Mithran's idea.

Sound like you missed out on the double points reward last weekend, Fish.

Red-Tide · Apr 26, 2007, 02:46 PM // 14:46

None of this matters anyway, here is Gailes less than pleasing response from the Game and Dev tracker forum.

Gaile Gray - "Simple answer: The game is not designed for 7-Hero teams."

Great non-response to the community...

tyche7 · Apr 26, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

Even with that response - since it really wasn't specific enough to know whether they're just refusing to do it for now or really can NOT do it on the current game engine (although being a programmer myself I can't imagine why)...I'm still going to...

/ SIGN

freekedoutfish · Apr 26, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etta

/signed with Mithran's idea.

Sound like you missed out on the double points reward last weekend, Fish.

I knew about the double points weekend. I just chose not to do it. The idea of spending hours of my time, killing creature, after creature, after creature in the same locations, just to add points to a title really does not apeal to me.

There is no skill required. Its just not fun. I tried it when I first played NF, and I did a bit of sunspear and lightbringer farming.....

...I lasted about 30 minutes before the fun ran out.

Farming for greens, or points is not my idea of exciting. I prefer questing, exploring, missions. Anything that feels rewarding and challenging. Plus what benefit do you get from sunspear? nothing at all.

I would go mental if they made you farm lightbringer, or sunspear points to unlock something monumental.

bhavv · Apr 26, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red-Tide

Gaile Gray - "Simple answer: The game is not designed for 7-Hero teams."

Great non-response to the community...

Where is that post??? How can the game not be designed for 7 hero teams, but be designed for 3 heroes and 4 hench? What difference does it make?

Winterclaw · Apr 26, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

How can the game be designed for 8 PCs or 1 PC and 7 henchies but not 8 heroes? I'm sure there is a way to mess it around a little.

Mithran, I like your idea but how do you take into account that some people can already use 3 heroes?

tenshi_strife · Apr 26, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

you get rank 3 in suspear just off first isle lol tahts how, yea i like your idea mithran

MithranArkanere · Apr 26, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

How can the game be designed for 8 PCs or 1 PC and 7 henchies but not 8 heroes? I'm sure there is a way to mess it around a little.

Mithran, I like your idea but how do you take into account that some people can already use 3 heroes?

After the change, all the characters would have their heroes removed from party once upon login, with the new slots they can remove them like when you enter some PvP areas.

Getting to rank 6 is AWESOMELY easy, even easier with Hard mode. And for Nightfall characters, it is required.

I have all my character ins rank six minimum since the first days.