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gameshoes3003 · Jun 06, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45

As convenient as passage scrolls being sold by merchants would be, there wouldn't be a point of favor divine favor would there?
Seriously, as stated before the scrolls are meant to be used if your area does not have favor, having merchants sell them can pretty much defeat the purpose of the Hall of Heroes for favor (aside from 8v8 fights not in the guild).
Also, tomes wouldn't make much sense, this is when we go to the skill trainer. Seriously. I have nearly every warrior skill and ranger skill and my guys still have over 30 skill points, it isn't that hard to get skill points. Also be smart about which skills you pick first as well. Selling non-elites tomes at 1k doesn't really fit well. Sure you can buy it if you're at level 1... But seriously, just level up and do missions and you'll be absolutely fine.
Elite tomes. I just have to say a flat no. If you want an elite, go through the trouble of capping as the others did before you.
/notsigned on all three

bilateralrope · Jun 06, 2007, 06:00 AM // 06:00

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Originally Posted by gameshoes3003

As convenient as passage scrolls being sold by merchants would be, there wouldn't be a point of favor divine favor would there?
Seriously, as stated before the scrolls are meant to be used if your area does not have favor, having merchants sell them can pretty much defeat the purpose of the Hall of Heroes for favor (aside from 8v8 fights not in the guild).

Considering that the people fighting to win favor don't seem to care, what exactly is the point of the favor system now ?

Besides, scrolls are already tradeable. Traders just keep the prices stable and remove the need to use spam to buy and sell them.

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Also, tomes wouldn't make much sense, this is when we go to the skill trainer. Seriously. I have nearly every warrior skill and ranger skill and my guys still have over 30 skill points, it isn't that hard to get skill points. Also be smart about which skills you pick first as well. Selling non-elites tomes at 1k doesn't really fit well.

The normal skill tomes will probably have their price hover just above the 1k mark because anytime they drop below it, people will buy from them instead pushing the price back up.

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Sure you can buy it if you're at level 1... But seriously, just level up and do missions and you'll be absolutely fine.
Elite tomes. I just have to say a flat no. If you want an elite, go through the trouble of capping as the others did before you.

Because all your arguments against the tomes being tradeable would equally apply to the existence of the tomes I'm thinking your against the tomes, not the ability to trade them easily. So what exactly is the harm in the tomes existing ?

And where is the harm from the existence of a trader for them ?

Also don't tomes make it easier to rebuild your character if you decide to delete and remake it to take advantage of the hair/face options in other chapters ? (assuming you could afford to buy them)

watrah · Jun 06, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56

tome trader = more new noobs + no need to do quests(mean remove quest we dont need xp for skill point amd skills)

scroll UW/FOW trader = who need faver then close Hall of hero

more trader = more lazy ppl who want to sell super fast and get rich, cus they dont want to set there and sell there stuff.
if u dont want to west ur time sell ur thing for 50% down or 25% then u dont need to west ur time trying to sell ur thing for 100k+xxe.

one more thing make use of pary search I know its problem for not take all what u want to sell and I hope they fix it but realy it will solve the problem of spammer and ur item will bw send for all Dis right.

/notsigned on all three trader

bilateralrope · Jun 06, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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tome trader = more new noobs + no need to do quests(mean remove quest we dont need xp for skill point amd skills)

Except the scrolls will be more expensive than the skills from the trainers (especially with the new character discount), and new players won't have the skills unlocked so the tomes won't work for them.

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scroll UW/FOW trader = who need faver then close Hall of hero

See my previous post, then tell me what purpose the favor system currently has.

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more trader = more lazy ppl who want to sell super fast and get rich, cus they dont want to set there and sell there stuff.
if u dont want to west ur time sell ur thing for 50% down or 25% then u dont need to west ur time trying to sell ur thing for 100k+xxe.

Ok I have no idea what the current value of the tomes are. Could you please tell me how I'm able to easily work that out so that when I find them I know what price to ask for. And what price to look for when buying so I'm not ripped off.

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one more thing make use of pary search I know its problem for not take all what u want to sell and I hope they fix it but realy it will solve the problem of spammer and ur item will bw send for all Dis right.

bw ?

And people don't currently seem to be using the party search window for LFG's (which it does work for) so what makes you think they will use it for trading when the character limit is too short for that ?

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/notsigned on all three trader

watrah · Jun 06, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

If you don't know the price of an item try to put a estimation price or check guru because any drop you find there is other who find it before you and already post a start price for it

And if it happen that you was the first one to find it then that will be your lucky day put estimation price that u feel it worth it then start selling if it didn’t go with the price you set it start lowering down by time you will sell it and you will know in the future how much you will sell it again ones it drop again for you (Fixed my Language as you requested

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MithranArkanere · Jun 06, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Language may be fixed... but punctuation and capitals would help, mate...

Checking pages is a nonsense. Specially for list in forums and action pages.
Why? Because there is always someone dumb, or greedy, or with bots, etc... that pay much more than the average, increasing the price for all, making the price there be MUCH higher that the price players usually pay.

If someone pays 100k+1500e for a black dye should the rest pay that? No, of course not.
Traders are the best way to prevent such things.

The only way to balance prices is INGAME, with ingame systems.

Hall of heroes favor system is going to be changed. And the main reason to do it is not to get the favor. Is to get the items and the hero points, mate.

bilateralrope · Jun 06, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

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If you don't know the price of an item try to put a estimation price or check guru because any drop you find there is other who find it before you and already post a start price for it

So come onto the forums, ask for a price check, hope for an accurate reply ?

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And if it happen that you was the first one to find it then that will be your lucky day

Did you even read any of the thread. We are talking about tomes and passage scrolls. Items which already exist.

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put estimation price that u feel it worth it then start selling if it didn’t go with the price you set it start lowering down by time you will sell it and you will know in the future how much you will sell it again ones it drop again for you

So its guess the price, stand around spamming it for a bit, then if I don't sell reduce my price ?
You know I always thought that computer games were about doing things you enjoy, but I don't see how I could enjoy doing that. So why should we be forced to do things we don't enjoy when there are systems which remove the need to do that without harming other players ?

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You still need to use punctuation, even if its just fullstops and commas.