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Tactical-Dillusions · Jun 17, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Why Anet never thought of this already, i don't know....

Allow the bureacrat guy to accept unwanted rare items from you in return for faction points based upon the merchant value of the item (for example, if you gave him an item worth 270 gold, you'd get 27 points).

Excellent and non-compulsory gold sink.
Opens up a bigger market for ALL rare items.
Reduces grind for both the PvE and PvP crowd.

Would make a change from giving my unwanted golds to the merchant. Perhaps the idea could be extended to purples too, for which there is an almost non-existent market, but the reward for those would be much smaller but worth considering if the price was right.

No longer will you complain about getting that non-max shield you really wasn't looking forward to getting!

Tell me you like the idea!

Taiyz · Jun 17, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

I quite like this idea, actually. It feels right, as you're donating weapons and other useful items to your faction's army.

/signed

bilateralrope · Jun 17, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Optional gold sink that looks like it will work - Good.
Faster way to max your characters stats - Good.

More trade in worthless golds. While its a problem with our lack of a trading system, its easily avoided. So no problem here.

Interesting idea.

/signed. Really whats the downside ?

MithranArkanere · Jun 17, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Hm... when you bribe a Priest to gain access to a Shrine and Blessings you pay 100g and get 10 points... so instead of giving items, you could just give them gold.

It won't be crazy to let them allow 'gold donations for the cause'.

10g~1point.

Apollo33 · Jun 17, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

I don't see why they can't exchange 10 faction for 1g. I mean, scrolls sell for like 1k. Yet they cost 10k in faction. I'm sure Amber and Jade will drop greatly once people start trading stuff in. So they'll probably go for like 100g. Get 10k faction for 1k gold. Sounds fair to me.

It'd also encourage people to do vanquishing with blessings for faction. Rather than just doing FFF. Provide people easier ways to gain faction. That's what I want. It is kind of confusing as to why you can't simply "buy" your faction... They should really add that. I mean, you're still supporting the Kurzicks/Luxons, right? A great gold sink, especially for the titles.

tenshi_strife · Jun 17, 2007, 11:41 PM // 23:41

/signed i love this idea, cause supporting the army with weps and gold is something that is needed, maybe materials too, like give them 1 stack of mats and get faction, idk about how much.

Tactical-Dillusions · Jun 18, 2007, 12:58 AM // 00:58

Glad you guys have shown a liking to this so far. I was expecting loads of people looking for any excuse to knock it back.

Shortly after posting, i thought of another extension to the idea. For a greater reward, you could donate green items. I'm sure half the people in Guild Wars has at least a few greens that aren't shifting or being used.
I myself have given loads away in the past.

Kurzick Bureacrat: Hmm, this is an exceptional weapon *player name*. Are you sure you want to donate it to the cause to help drive back the Luxon scum?
Yes. Give me 500 Kurzick faction.
No. There's a nub in Kaineng that might need it.

HawkofStorms · Jun 18, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Eh.... not a bad idea (though it could use a better thread title so people actually know what it's about

).

/signed just because of merchanted enough crummy gold items that I might have gladly used for this instead.

Neo Nugget · Jun 18, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07

oo /signed.

very nice idea.

Evilsod · Jun 18, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

They will never go for this...

It basically turns Allegience into a buyable title if you have plenty of cash. Buy enough unids at 7 for 5-7k you get about 2k worth of faction.

They already gave us faction for killing things with the blessing... seriously, thats good enough.

Twinsoul · Jun 18, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

/signed for great justice.
This would give me something worth-while to do with all the golds I find while checking treasure chests, as well as help me grind the faction title up.

drakun01 · Jun 18, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

/signed
Really, whats not to like?

Bane of Worlds · Jun 18, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

/signed

It still doesn't matter if this turned the titles buyable since gold takes longer to farm than factions anyway. This will work as another goldsink for GW. Gold items that are not perfect or unpopular can be used to gain progress towards a grind-based title and not introduce more gp into the game. Trading gold items give more factions than straight gp transfer could work too as the current market is saturated with golds and only perfect ones are desired for the most part. This will give purpose to "useless" gold items.

While I do understand that the current blessing are good enough, this will help the stagnant market and help the solo farmers sell their gold items to players and not to the merchant.

Apollo33 · Jun 18, 2007, 04:54 AM // 04:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

They will never go for this...

It basically turns Allegience into a buyable title if you have plenty of cash. Buy enough unids at 7 for 5-7k you get about 2k worth of faction.

They already gave us faction for killing things with the blessing... seriously, thats good enough.

What's wrong with having it be a buyable title? I don't really understand... A buyable title is WAY better than a title that requires grinding any day. I say let us donate gold in return for faction on our title. 1 plat for 10k faction towards title. That way, you're just donating it to the Kurzicks/Luxons for their own benefit. You still wouldn't be able to finish "Befriending the Luxons/Kurzicks" by just paying 1k. Nor would you be able to get 10 scrolls/amber/jade for 1k.

Seriously, what's wrong with buying the title? Many Kurzick guilds have just been FFFing to keep up their faction. They don't have to kill foes, they just run to a stinking place on a map and die. I'm not putting it down, as I'll probably do it... Since it's the easiest way to earn faction. But they can earn 10k in under an hour doing this... Why not just allow people to buy faction?

More gold sinks are good. Prices will come down even more (something that ANet likes) because people are spending money on stuff other than items.

Even with 10k faction for 1 plat, you've still got to spend 1000 plat to get the max title. That's the max amount you can keep in storage.

I think the reason YOU don't want a buyable title is because YOU don't think it's fair to YOU. Well, I don't think it's a fair title in general. Kurzicks have a bugged repeatable-quest that they can easily do in under 1 to 2 mins.

Ravi · Jun 18, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05

i agree with this idea, but i think it will be a bit more on-par with the rest of the faction generating options if it would directly transfer weapon value to faction, e.g. 234g item >>> 234 faction, other than that :

/signed

kazjun · Jun 18, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

/signed

Most items nowadays are little better than merch food.

Div · Jun 18, 2007, 06:22 AM // 06:22

I like the trading in golds (and maybe purples) for faction, but definitely not paying 10g for 1 faction...

Kale Ironfist · Jun 18, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

It basically turns Allegience into a buyable title if you have plenty of cash. Buy enough unids at 7 for 5-7k you get about 2k worth of faction.

You can already buy the Allegiance... It just takes a LONG time, as it's only once per shrine of the OPPOSING faction. Not only that, but you only gain 10 faction (costs 100 gold) at a time.

Neevan · Jun 18, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Nice..
What about, if you want new pvp equipment, it costs you factions?
Like then if someone sold a gold for 27 factions, then you have to buy it for 27 again, or something like that.
Also, then you can only buy the equipment you have unlucked on pve, or that someone sold to factions guy

Hyper.nl · Jun 18, 2007, 07:40 AM // 07:40

/signed

Good idea, although I'm a bit worried if the devvers have time to plan, code, test and implement all the good idea's posted here.