Jun 16, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be
Guild: Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind
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Kurzicks/Luxons title system Retro the Faction earned
This idea is not mine but of one that has recently been suggested by others for Faction titles.
Under the new Kurzicks/Luxons title system if you turn in 1000 faction for amber or Jade you gain still gain 1000 faction towards your title whereas before you could not. Over the last year I have accumulated over 1,000,000 Kurzick faction only to discover that amber I had previously earned earns me no faction towards any title I could earn now by using the same Faction turn in method. Currently you can see the amount of faction you have earned with any account over your lifetime simply by speaking to the faction’s rewards guy.
I suggest you retroactively allow transfer the amount of faction you have earned over your lifetime into these titles. After all you did earn that faction over the last year and even if you did not turn faction into town ownership you still earned the title you can get now. So why not compensate the player for the effort over the last year?
For those who don't understand let me explain. If you turn in 1000 faction for Amber/or Jade in HzH or Cavlion as of today you get 1000 faction towards you title and you get your amber or Jade. Before today you could not do this. That means all that amber you collected over the past year is basically worthless towards a title you would have otherwise earned. The faction rewards guy keeps track of your total faction you have earned (even faction not turned in) since joining that faction. Lets have all your effort count towards something positive.
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Jun 16, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29
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#2
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
Guild: Rogue Clan [Rg]
Profession: Mo/N
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/signed for great justice.
Everyone in my alliance was fuming once they heard all that amber they sold for marginal profit had stopped them from getting a now important title and the skills that accompany it.
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Jun 16, 2007, 05:42 AM // 05:42
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#3
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Krytan Explorer
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/signed
As stated above.
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Jun 16, 2007, 05:53 AM // 05:53
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#4
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Zealand
Guild: Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)
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The only problem I can see with this is that it might be difficult to determine how much faction was actually spent on Amber/Jade, and how much was lost due to spending for the other side and/or because you were at 10k when you earned it.
A much easier option for ANET might instead be to count all the faction you have earned towards a title, as you earn it.
Currently guild wars stores two values for each faction per account. The amount earned, and the amount spent towards the title. By making the title work off the first, the second becomes irrelevant allowing ANET to stop having to store the second value.
/signed. As long as ANET takes one of these options, I don't actually care which.
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Jun 16, 2007, 05:57 AM // 05:57
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#5
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: none
Profession: W/E
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Already is another thread in Riverside about this, longer than this one as well.
Ill /sign for same reasons stated there.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10168452
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Jun 16, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49
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#6
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia
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Anet LISTEN TO US GAMERS
We dont want to grind all over again for something we've already technically earned.
PVP for PVE skills is stupid!
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Jun 16, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15
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#7
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_3_aK
Anet LISTEN TO US GAMERS
We dont want to grind all over again for something we've already technically earned.
PVP for PVE skills is stupid!
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You DO know that you can get factions through repeatable quests and Challenge Missions and they are way more efficient in getting factions than AB.
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Jun 16, 2007, 10:19 AM // 10:19
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#8
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Zealand
Guild: Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzta
You DO know that you can get factions through repeatable quests and Challenge Missions and they are way more efficient in getting factions than AB.
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Yes, repetitive grind.
In one of the other threads someone mentions that while they have over 1 million faction earned, only 40k was spent for their alliance. So how long will it take them to re-earn it assuming they only grind ? (give hours of playing time)
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Jun 16, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26
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#9
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Krytan Explorer
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I was refering to the poster above about PvP for PvE skills which he can actually earn it just by doing PvE only. If you read this thread, I already sign for this suggestion, Im not against it.
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Jun 16, 2007, 12:08 PM // 12:08
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#10
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2007
Profession: W/E
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/signed
121k earnt
29k on title
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Jun 16, 2007, 12:47 PM // 12:47
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#11
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Belgium
Guild: Murder Death Sadists Of Doom [MDSD]
Profession: E/Me
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/signed
100k tittle around 200 earned
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Jun 16, 2007, 12:51 PM // 12:51
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#12
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Derka-Derka Land
Guild: Steel Phoenix (StP)
Profession: E/
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/signed
Side note: making cash while getting the title is pretty cool.
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Jun 16, 2007, 01:14 PM // 13:14
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#13
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Great Britain
Profession: W/P
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Isn't there another thread about this? Can we combine the two, please.
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Jun 16, 2007, 01:27 PM // 13:27
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#14
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: Me/
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/signed
thats makes no sense to spend again hours grinding in pvp and/or pve only to unlock pve only skills...
EDIT: 162596 faction points wasted in ambers :-/
Last edited by helldrik; Jun 16, 2007 at 01:48 PM // 13:48..
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Jun 16, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59
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#15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cavalon
Guild: The Last Pirates (SaVY)
Profession: N/
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/signed
I have around 800k luxon faction used, and only 250k of it is in my title.
Along with the kurzic I have about 350K with none in my title. It should count.
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Jun 16, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30
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#16
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In Baltar's head
Guild: Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]
Profession: Mo/
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/not signed
My reasons in the Riverside topic.
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Jun 16, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59
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#17
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Metal Machine
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Scions of Carver [SCAR]
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/signed
make it so as soon as you earn faction it goes on your title, like ss and lb points, and just give us the amount we've earned in the title.
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Jun 16, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03
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#18
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Maryland
Guild: Mage Elites [MAGE]
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/NOT signed
I spent my faction towards the title instead of turning in for amber/jade. While you would be getting the points I'd be losing out on amber/jade. If they did this I would expect a stack of amber and jade in my inventory.....
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Jun 16, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09
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#19
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
/NOT signed
I spent my faction towards the title instead of turning in for amber/jade. While you would be getting the points I'd be losing out on amber/jade. If they did this I would expect a stack of amber and jade in my inventory.....
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Yes you CHOSE to donate it to benefit your alliance, theres no big difference here if you CHOOSE to get amber/jade.... there no way this is screwing you over, you decided to donate it.
/signed
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Jun 16, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22
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#20
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Maryland
Guild: Mage Elites [MAGE]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
Yes you CHOSE to donate it to benefit your alliance, theres no big difference here if you CHOOSE to get amber/jade.... there no way this is screwing you over, you decided to donate it.
/signed
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No. I chose for my TITLE. NOT the alliance. Now all these people are wanting both the title AND amber while I only get 1 of those. How is that fair?
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