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Old Jul 15, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12   #1
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Default Blinding a Ritualist

I have become curious as to why a Ritualist is blinded by skills that cause blindness.


Now my reasonign here is that a Ritualist wears headgear that causes them to be blind so they can concentrate on the spirit realm.

With this in mind they use weapons while wearing this. So the Ritualist is already blinded.

Why then when someone uses a skill that causes blindness can they no longer use the weapon as effectively?

I therefore suggest that primary ritualists at the very least should be immune to all forms of blindness.
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Old Jul 15, 2007, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #2
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[skill]sight beyond sight[/skill]
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Old Jul 15, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12   #3
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Note that [wiki]Sight Beyond Sight[/wiki] is in Spawning Power. That means that only primary Ritualists can get the full effect.
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Old Jul 15, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33   #4
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I therefore suggest that primary ritualists at the very least should be immune to all forms of blindness.
Make it any Rit primary or 2nd'ary and i'd love it
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Old Jul 15, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28   #5
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Well... Ritualsits, even being blind 'see' the spirit realm...

Since characters can affect spirits (we can hit ghosts) blinding the 'spiritual sight' of a ritualists works the same way.

Here's your explanation.
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #6
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No, there is no explanation.

Blindness causes the user to miss with attacks because he can not see.

Ritualists can not see.

Ritualists can hit with attacks.

Therefore, blindness should have no effect on them as sight is not important to them.

However, this is just for the lore... yes, ritualists can never see anything, but exempting them automatically from suffering a condition just doesn't really fit into the Guild Wars mechanics.
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 01:52 AM // 01:52   #7
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Ritualists do not need eyes to see.
Fixed, for anyone who's watched Event Horizon :D
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #8
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Hmmm, good point. Never thought of that. Doesn't make much sense.

I agree, they should probably be immune to blindness....
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 03:49 AM // 03:49   #9
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I tend to look up and whistle when that happens, because I don't look for hyper-realism in my game full of spirit-summoning men in beaded skirts. XD

Am I alone here?
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 04:02 AM // 04:02   #10
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I tend to look up and whistle when that happens, because I don't look for hyper-realism in my game full of spirit-summoning men in beaded skirts. XD

Am I alone here?
Hyper realism=A blindfolded person not being affected by a loss of eyesight?

You got us there.........
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 04:07 AM // 04:07   #11
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I have to point out something that doesn't appear to have been mentioned yet:

Ritualists have their eyes shut when attacking with any weapon. (Bow, sword, staff, etc.) I was trying out this class for a while and didn't like the mask so I made it hidden.

And what do you know? Even without the masks, ritualists attack enemies without looking.

So! If next you find yourself demoralized by this lack of realism, just consider this: The ritualist keeps a close connection with the spirit realm, and that realm allows them to strike targets accurately without even seeing them.

But when an assassin uses something like blinding powder, it causes them to lose focus because their eyes are burning from having a foreign object in them.
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00   #12
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I suppose this means than when someone tells a ritualist "Abbadon will eat your eyes" that the ritualist doesn't care.
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44   #13
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I suppose this means than when someone tells a ritualist "Abbadon will eat your eyes" that the ritualist doesn't care.
What? I'm sure even a blindfolded person would hate to have his eyes eaten.....
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 08:29 AM // 08:29   #14
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Has anyone else noticed that Ritualists close their eyes while in battle (eg. while Casting, attacking, battle stance, etc. etc.)
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 09:21 AM // 09:21   #15
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From my understanding, despite being pyhsically blinded by a mask. Ritualists have a second sense that allows them to call-upon the spirit world and are still able to percieve the world around them.

Blinding skills or spells presumable interupt this ability.

Otherwise why dont they have a guide-dog when walking around the world? Maybe they peak from under their mask!
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 12:16 PM // 12:16   #16
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From my understanding, despite being pyhsically blinded by a mask. Ritualists have a second sense that allows them to call-upon the spirit world and are still able to percieve the world around them.

Blinding skills or spells presumable interupt this ability.

Otherwise why dont they have a guide-dog when walking around the world? Maybe they peak from under their mask!
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Well, the obvious and self-explicatory answer is "It's just a game," but I assume you already knew that.

The answer you probably wanted to hear was that yes, you're right. It doesn't make sense, though I don't think they should remove it, nor do I think they should make them immune to blindness.
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 12:28 PM // 12:28   #17
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Maybe it's something complicated, like:

Ritualists don't see normally, but they still need their eyes to "see" the spirit realm. Like, they have specially adapted eyes that can see the spirit realm, and therefore can see through the cloth, but can't see when messed up?
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34   #18
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I always saw it as Ritualists seeing the world in spirit form thus being able to hit foes and not walk into walls. and who's to say in this fantasy world, that the dirt you can only throw once every 30 seconds isn't magical sixth sense distorting fairy dust?
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56   #19
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And what about the Ritualists who turn their mask display off, hmm?
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Old Jul 16, 2007, 12:57 PM // 12:57   #20
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Lol... What's wrong with you guys? You know you CAN press "hide always" in headgear options? So there we go, nothing is blinding them anymore, everyone happy. kktnxbai
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