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Caje4747 · Jul 24, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Some countries in Europe get their own servers, why not Canada?

dargon · Jul 24, 2007, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Actually, they don't, they just have different language districts due to the number of distinct languages spoken in Europe, it's all on the same server. Canada for the most part, speaks english, just like the US.

Operative 14 · Jul 24, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Actually, I was thinking of suggesting something like this; add a French and a Spanish districts to the American districts. The French district would help guilds from Quebec, the Spanish districts would help those people i see wandering around in the American districts trying to see if anyone else speaks Spanish.

MithranArkanere · Jul 24, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

I really would appreciate Spanish American districts.

People from South America keep going into europena servers, and they lag like HELL.

They should stick to the servers that are near them, and use the international districtos to tlak with same-language friends from other countries. Like americasn and english people can do.

genofreek · Jul 24, 2007, 09:26 PM // 21:26

/signed for Spanish/French districts on our side for South Americans/Central Americans/French Canadians, etc.

I see enough people in American districts looking for help in Spanish to validate this.

Francis Demeules · Jul 24, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

We could add Italian too because we can find some of them in the america server, no?

Halmyr · Jul 25, 2007, 01:55 AM // 01:55

As A canadian, would be quite fun :P

But theres really no use to it.

The French/Spanish district make much more sense.

And sorry francis, don't think theres enough people that speak italian in the amrecain serverto merit its own district

HawkofStorms · Jul 25, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

/notsigned
As mentioned, the nations of Europe DON'T have different servers. They have different districts. Big difference.
"Amercian" refers to North America (not just the US). Thus, everybody in the western hemispehere is (by a.net's definition) American.

I don't think A.net doesn't sell enough games in hispanic countries to justify it. Most people in Quebec learn English anyway (since they have so many English speaking neighbors). If you could find significant stats to prove that enough of a.net's North and South American customers need this, then I'd support this. After all, I know several people who are natives from other countries and don't speak English, or learned it as a child. Just because of their existance in the United States, do we really need a Greek or a Polish district as well?

Age · Jul 25, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39

The only way I see it is by Canadian district.Latin America district and then US district all on the American Server.There are some who think the American Server is only the US.

MithranArkanere · Jul 25, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50

It could be like European.

European Common, then one per language talked by at least 2..5% of the players.

(By the way, tthey should bring back the english along the common ones)

Then, if you want to talk only in one language, you go to that district, if you don't care about that, you go to common.

countesscorpula · Jul 25, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

"Amercian" refers to North America (not just the US).

I think "American" should also include South and Central America. By strict definition, they are also americans.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

I don't think A.net doesn't sell enough games in hispanic countries to justify it.

Nice double negative there. Do you mean they do sell enough games to warrent spanish districts? Cool. I have absolutely know clue as to how many units they sell in Mexico, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Honduras, Ecuador, etc. I don't think you do either.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Most people in Quebec learn English anyway (since they have so many English speaking neighbors).

That's just plain wrong. Recent census information indicates that more than half of Quebec's population speaks French only. So saying "most" is not only misleading, it is false. A lot are bilingual, but by no means "most."

Quebec is also not the only French speaking province in Canada. New Brunswick has a healthy sized French population, and there are even some Francaphone communities in rural Ontario and British Columbia. Nor is Canada the only home to French speaking people in the Americas. There are the Cajun and Creoles, and French Guiana just to name a few.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

If you could find significant stats to prove that enough of a.net's North and South American customers need this, then I'd support this.

And where is any player going to get those "significant statistics"? The only people with that kind of information are PlayNC and Arena Net. And we know how often they share that kind of info... They don't even announce how many players there are, only units sold, which is not the same thing. Not that i'm complaining about that. They are under no obligation to release that kind of info to anyone (who doesn't own shares).

In the end, I'd support Spanish and French districts (even Portuguese districts) if the sales and/or community are there to support it. Only A-Net is capable of having that kind of info.

I don't support the idea of Canadian servers. This would only serve to spread the game's population even thinner. My own guild holds three Canadians, three Australians, and the remaining 19 are from the USA (as far as I know). I'm sure there guilds with a Canadian Majority, and guilds that hold only people from the USA, but I suspect that the number of Canadians playing spread across the 6 time zones don't warrent a separate server.

Onarik Amrak · Jul 25, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

It's not going to happen. And really, there is no point. Canadians, Americans and Mexicans all share the same timezones, why would you need separate districts?

Australia and New Zealand are a bit different of course, but at the end of the day, GW2 is removing this mechanic, so I doubt they'll continue splitting up the districts.

HawkofStorms · Jul 26, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by countesscorpula

I think "American" should also include South and Central America. By strict definition, they are also americans.

Nice double negative there. Do you mean they do sell enough games to warrent spanish districts? Cool. I have absolutely know clue as to how many units they sell in Mexico, Chile, Peru, Columbia, Honduras, Ecuador, etc. I don't think you do either.

I'm on 56k. I noticed that typo the instant I posted it. I tried to edit it, but it takes like 5 miniutes to load anything on this website, so I just gave up.

Also, I included South and Central America with the phrase Western Hemisphere in the second paragraph.

Pointing out flaws in grammer on an INTERNET FORUM doesn't exactly matter.

xaleo21 · Jul 26, 2007, 02:22 AM // 02:22

...Uhm... well... I think a Spanish dist and... French (<.<) dist would be useful....
But, yea, an Italian dist would be a little much....
With Kurzick players making up a bunch of German names, maybe a German dist should be made, eh? No....
Spanish 'cause Mexico plays... French because of Quebec. But no place in No. America that's commonly Italian or otherwise.

dargon · Jul 26, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by countesscorpula

That's just plain wrong. Recent census information indicates that more than half of Quebec's population speaks French only. So saying "most" is not only misleading, it is false. A lot are bilingual, but by no means "most."

The question is, are there enough non-bilingual people in Quebec that actually play guildwars to justify a north american french district. IMO, the majority of non-bilingual people in Canada tend to be above to typical age that plays the game

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Originally Posted by countesscorpula

Quebec is also not the only French speaking province in Canada. New Brunswick has a healthy sized French population, and there are even some Francaphone communities in rural Ontario and British Columbia. Nor is Canada the only home to French speaking people in the Americas. There are the Cajun and Creoles, and French Guiana just to name a few.

Just because people living another province speak french, doesn't make it a french speaking province. Quebec is the only official french speaking province in Canada. As for these francophone communities in BC, being from BC myself, I'd love to know which communities you speak of

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Originally Posted by countesscorpula

And where is any player going to get those "significant statistics"? The only people with that kind of information are PlayNC and Arena Net. And we know how often they share that kind of info... They don't even announce how many players there are, only units sold, which is not the same thing. Not that i'm complaining about that. They are under no obligation to release that kind of info to anyone (who doesn't own shares).

How would you define a player? People come, people go, people come back again. Does that mean they'd go from player to non-player to player?

MithranArkanere · Jul 26, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Well... you could ay so for, for example, Polish.

English and German speakers are by far much more than Polish.
But Polish exists, because Polish is an official language.
That's all GW needs. The data is already there.
If they let people choose language, why not letting them choosing to gather with more people using the same language?

Francis Demeules · Jul 26, 2007, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Communication is my top priority in a team. I left the Americain server because its always chatting in English in the local (with some exceptions and I was tired about that.

I dont want to offense any of you but I wish the Americain server has different language districts too, that could help some players too in communication.

Willowleaf · Aug 05, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

I have always wondered why the American side does not get district languages like Europe. With the astounding number of hispanos and spanish people in America, not having a spanish district does not make sense. A french district would make sense as well with the francophones being everywhere in America, including USA. Many francophones do not or barely speak English and do not dare playing such an online game like GW because of the language barrier (English). I've been insulted as well a few times in the America server for not speaking English, "Speak white" I've been told, as if one can't be white and speak another language than English. At least, in the other languages distrist, if they were to be added, we could discuss in peace and not be insulted by the Anglophones.

October Jade · Aug 05, 2007, 02:25 AM // 02:25

I would love to see French- and Spanish-speaking districts on the American server. It fulfills a dual purpose in providing native speakers a common meeting place as well as sheltering them from the xenophobic and racist commentary which is unfortunately ever-present.

I suppose that nearly all the arguments for and against bilingual education could be applied here; however, bear in mind that GW is a computer game. People come to it seeking fun, not social justice.

MithranArkanere · Aug 05, 2007, 02:47 AM // 02:47

And more important, Many spanish and french speaking players from that timezone come to european serversm when they could join better frind with their same timezone if they knew there are servers for they same language speakers.

With the zone change limit reset, they could go back to their timezones and save some lag to us european players. It makes no sense having them connect to us, when must of us are not connected at the same time as them.