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Old Jul 29, 2007, 04:03 PM // 16:03   #21
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Why not have some XP say 150 or whatever for clearing out everything in a zone in Pre?
That would be great alternative IMO as you would work for it plus
you get the drops and a little gold or black dye
My 2c

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Old Jul 29, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19   #22
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I dont agree with the whole "Death Leveling" idea... it seems more like a bug or a glitch title. I mean surely leveling enemies up by having them kill you over and over again just seems a bit like a break in the ...the.... well everything really.
For the longest time, most of the survivors were achieved by using a bug. Death leveling is just a creative idea to get to level 20, not a bug title. If anything, survivor is a more stupid title than that.
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Old Jul 29, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45   #23
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Personally I'd much more like to see a hardmode accessable through an NPC (just like in Nightfall) with a minimum requirement of being atleast level 15 (so no LDoA cheapening power level whoring)and perhaps even making it accessable with a max party size of just 1 instead of 2...lets see how legendary you realy are hehe

Access to HM at level 10 is way too early, this title is supposed to be reachable only by people who put some serious efford into the title and having yourself powerlevelled is hardly an efford. You should reach the title by reaching it yourself.
I am only now starting to work in Elona and so have not met this NPC that initiates Hard Mode, unless you mean like the NPCs that initiate missions.

I chose 10th level because I recommended a partial Hard Mode for Pre where the advancement of the monsters would be +10 levels. Most persons leave Pre before 10th level. If the entry Wisdom Stone I recommended, or Hard Mode option giver, explained that you cannot participate in the PvP arena in Post-Searing Ascalon if you are over 10th level then this would also discourage some from doing this.

If an irretractable move to Hard Mode Pre at 10th level resulted in +10 levels to all monsters in Pre then the level 0 monsters would become 10th level, the level 5 monsters would become 15th (Drake, Skullreaver, Oakhearts), the Charr in Charr at the Gate would become 16th, the Northland Charr would be 17th (Shaman), 18th (most), and 20th (Bosses).

If one could not, as I recommended, partner with those who were not in Hard Mode, then there would be no power leveling from this; just as you cannot partner in Hard Mode in Post with those who cannot go Hard Mode. If you could not trade with those who have not entered Hard Mode, then farming would be of little use for sales purposes.

Rather than prevent people from playing as partners for Hard Mode I would expand the Party number allowed so that more people can be in the party. It would still be up to them. There is loot scaling which means 1 or 2 man parties would not get more loot than 3 or 4. And there is experience division, so that if they want to enjoy each others company and practice being a team a larger group of 4 would not be a bad thing, even with the experience per kill being divided by 4. The fact is we all know how devastating Kindle Arrow and Dual Shot are at current levels, and they would be even more devastating on an 18th level Hunter. A 2 or even 4 man party would not be inappropriate for this.
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Old Jul 29, 2007, 10:41 PM // 22:41   #24
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Hey, even if they put a secret lvl 20 boss, I don't mind... As long as the guy is tough to beat as hell, we'll be fine for the 'value' of the title

In the presence situation, it's very abnormal to have this title. I just dont wanna become those sick no-life WoW gamers.
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24   #25
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Yea..once I saw the required grind for this title..i just deleated my lvl 8 pre-character. Wayyyy too much grind imo.
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31   #26
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First of all, they should remove it from chacters that leave pre-Searing. It's a pre-Searing title to awarded to those that stayed there and should stay like that.

It should banish if you leave like Survivor banishes if you don't get to level 1 before getting the first death.

Then, make creatures give 1XP if they are 5 leves below you, and 0 XP if they are 10 leves below you.

And done, a grindable title that prices peopke staying and killing there, but do not trat those leaving pre-Searing.
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00   #27
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what bothers me about this title is:

-How do u pull Charr ? they ve been updated a lot, and now u cant even pull one halfway to the rez point.. i ve been trying for hours...
I dont wanna use the Strider lvling

-How about implementing a REAL way to get the xp above lvl 16+ ?
lotsa examples have been given, new bosses, HM, clearing explorable zones ...

-This title should be available to anyone, so if u got a crappy connection, there is NO WAY to get this title There are ppl who dont have 20mbs+ internet connection. As for myself, i ve lotsa disconnection problems + a fixed one every night at 3am. (just keep the "just forget it then, it's just a title" BS to yerself ^^ )

I hope a lil fix ll be implemented and not in 1 year, like most of the features ppl are asking for
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07   #28
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This is a BS title, just like Sweet Tooth and Drunkard. No point in them. Other titles take skill to complete but LDoA, ST, and Drunk take no skill imo. I dont see whats so Legendary about letting monsters kill you for days on end. So i thionk this title should just be removed from the game!

I dont agree with a presear HM, or an advanced area in pre. You know why? IT'S PRE SEARING! IT IS A TUTORIAL AREA!
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 09:14 PM // 21:14   #29
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stop complaining about this title.

i spent months levelling just for the challenge of it. being level 20 is rewarding enough. if you are just another title seeker who wants a shiny new title to add to your collection, you dont deserve it anyway imho. it was put there as a reward not an incentive.

just my 2 cents.
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28   #30
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So you think that people who want the title shouldn't get it and only those who do it because they think it'll be fun or for some other reason should have it? Nonsense.

I think LDoA should remain exactly how it is, any change and the balance will be upset, people who have to title will be mad if they make it easier, if they make it harder people who have yet to get the title will be mad. Right now how the title is earned is accepted by most people and those who seek an easier/faster way to get this somewhat rare title should just forget about it. I'm an avid title chaser but when I tried to get this one I reached level 14 and admitted defeat. I don't mind not having this one and anyone who thinks they do need this one should accept how it is done and get started. It takes a long time and the time you spend whining here could be spent levelling your future LDoA.
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #31
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So you think that people who want the title shouldn't get it and only those who do it because they think it'll be fun or for some other reason should have it? Nonsense.
il agree to disagree on this point. im not saying you CANT HAVE IT, im saying that its a reward for people who have tried hard and done something unique. its not a title for someone who found it too hard and begged for it to be easier.

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So I think LDoA should remain exactly how it is, any change and the balance will be upset, people who have to title will be mad if they make it easier, if they make it harder people who have yet to get the title will be mad. Right now how the title is earned is accepted by most people and those who seek an easier/faster way to get this somewhat rare title should just forget about it. I'm an avid title chaser but when I tried to get this one I reached level 14 and admitted defeat. I don't mind not having this one and anyone who thinks they do need this one should accept how it is done and get started. It takes a long time and the time you spend whining here could be spent levelling your future LDoA.
well said. i couldnt agree more.
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37   #32
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stop complaining about this title.

i spent months levelling just for the challenge of it. being level 20 is rewarding enough. if you are just another title seeker who wants a shiny new title to add to your collection, you dont deserve it anyway imho. it was put there as a reward not an incentive.

just my 2 cents.
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I don't have got LDoA, just because I don't want to invest so much time in it, but if some guys will do that, let them do it.
Don't whine because you want the same title, but in far less time.
The rename to: 'no life' is just weak, you're reading on a guild wars forum, how low can you go .... besides, some titles involve even more time.
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Old Aug 12, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48   #33
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Well,there are some real good ideas at play here.a hard mode, even 1 way, in pre would be a major to do.locked chests/picks/elites on non-bosses/skill recharge/movement and the rest that traditionally makes hard mode well, hard mode.
since,I am not eloquent at doing quotes on forums lol. someone said,"lets see how legendary you really are." I love this quote, and it was this quote in mind that i had my idea.
put in a repeatable mission that can only have 1 in the party.Disable the /resign and the map travel for this mission.This mission should require you to get to level 15 before entering it.There is no rez shrine here(like in a co-op).you could even set this up as a challenge mission and keep track of who killed the most.you would find yourself alone on the other side of the wall and faced with wave after wave of char,that are level 15.starting with 1 and doubling in size with each wave.(after 8 is reached there will be more than 1 group in the wave and an additional boss level 18)waves come 10 seconds after the last wave was defeated.Each wave is a random spawn of mixed char classes.you fight them until you are over run and DIE this is a "legendary defender".
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 06:15 AM // 06:15   #34
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So you think that people who want the title shouldn't get it and only those who do it because they think it'll be fun or for some other reason should have it? Nonsense.

I think LDoA should remain exactly how it is, any change and the balance will be upset, people who have to title will be mad if they make it easier, if they make it harder people who have yet to get the title will be mad. Right now how the title is earned is accepted by most people and those who seek an easier/faster way to get this somewhat rare title should just forget about it. I'm an avid title chaser but when I tried to get this one I reached level 14 and admitted defeat. I don't mind not having this one and anyone who thinks they do need this one should accept how it is done and get started. It takes a long time and the time you spend whining here could be spent levelling your future LDoA.
/agreed ofc it shouldnt be easier
but still doable for everyone who wanna do it, not for only those with a good ISP
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48   #35
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/agreed ofc it shouldnt be easier
but still doable for everyone who wanna do it, not for only those with a good ISP
my isp is terrible.
i got ldoa 3-4 months ago (the character is called charr axxxe fiend). and anyone who knows me knows that i got disconnected MORE than half of the time.

i blamed my isp, not the title. it just took longer. in my 2nd-to-last week of death levelling, i was only 40% or so away and yet i got disconnected EVERY night for a week.


also..... like gaile says in the picture i posted, the title is a reward for those who did something creative and different. people will never stop complaining about it being too hard or the method too dull, i seriously just wish they would remove the title alltogether and shut them up for good. (allthough the chance of that happening is as small as the chance of them making it easier)
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 12:14 PM // 12:14   #36
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heh saw that Character on Presearing site ^^

about this, well i dont blame the title either, but i really dunno how i am gonna do it the Charr "IQ" when trying to pull aint helping at all ^^
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 12:17 PM // 12:17   #37
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whats your in game name? i will gladly show you how to lure charr (or read one of the many guides on presearing.com)
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