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Old Aug 14, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07   #21
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Getting 32000 deaths stopping the count at 60dp just isn't possible. And not stopping the counter just means i'll stand by a res shrine dieing for a few nights.
Quite possible actually. There is not DP in pre-searing (so that restriction won't count there) and your average Defender of Ascalon has around 100.000 deaths.

Would be a funny title anyways, but needs work.
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Old Aug 14, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12   #22
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Like i sad a few post before make conditions for it something like no more Emo points after 60% DP
And don't make the emote /cut
Not al emo's cut themselfs a friend of mine is as emo as you can get it and he writes songs, and darn good one's
And i don't cut myself either.
I agree on both. nice thanks.

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My ranger in Pre is going for the lvl 20 in pre title (foget name lol) but she has already racked up 34k deaths.. death titles would be too easy
Maybe too low, need feedback from more players and the amounts of deaths they have. Personally after 1000+ hours playing on my necro i still have less that what is needed to obtain R1. If anything if you have 34k deaths i would say you deserve an Emo title.

about AFK leveling concering [ii]this[/i] title, perhaps a afk detection script that would boot people out of the game or into the last main city visited after X deaths with ZERO keybord input (does such a thing not exist already?)
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Old Aug 14, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18   #23
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Ok i forgot there was no DP in Pre. i guess its a title that would not be available to pre players seeing as the only (?) way to get LDoA is to AFK death level. I suppose the Title could be triggered by a small NPC given quest just after noob island/pre in the way LB/SS titles are.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #24
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I would agree with a title that increases with deaths, as long as:

- Deaths with 60% penalty won't count.
- Use more logical names, like 'Martyr', 'Kamikaze', 'Bonzo', 'Suicidal',
- Can't be acquired if character has survivor or Defender of ascalon.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25   #25
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Death titles are stupid. Let me give you a list of work-arounds.

32000 deaths - Go afk in the Realm of Torment after pulling a few mobs
32000 deaths w/ keyboard response needed - Go afk in the Realm of Torment and move occasionally or set up a macro
32000 deaths w/ no counts after 60dp - Set up 3 heroes with Rebirth, get yourself down to 1 health, go afk and let heroes spam res you.
32000 deaths avoiding any possibilty of afking - not even remotely possible

My ranger has wracked up about 4200 deaths. This includes ~700 deaths from leveling 2 pets for my heroes. Lots and lots of runs in NF Jahai where i would start the run by dieing once. 32000 deaths is either completely un-attainable or would just be afk'd and as such a complete waste of time.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 01:06 AM // 01:06   #26
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Death titles are stupid. Let me give you a list of work-arounds.

32000 deaths - Go afk in the Realm of Torment after pulling a few mobs
32000 deaths w/ keyboard response needed - Go afk in the Realm of Torment and move occasionally or set up a macro
32000 deaths w/ no counts after 60dp - Set up 3 heroes with Rebirth, get yourself down to 1 health, go afk and let heroes spam res you.
32000 deaths avoiding any possibilty of afking - not even remotely possible

My ranger has wracked up about 4200 deaths. This includes ~700 deaths from leveling 2 pets for my heroes. Lots and lots of runs in NF Jahai where i would start the run by dieing once. 32000 deaths is either completely un-attainable or would just be afk'd and as such a complete waste of time.
There are few titles which require absurd amounts of "X" to Max out (faction for example)

There are a few titles that have NO max rank

There are a few titles that require nothing but the occasional mouse click.

If you are going to use macros...well then for starters I’m not sure that’s not considered cheating, and secondly ALL titles heck the WHOLE GAME could be done AFK.

There are more than a few titles that have AFK value only already, yet people like to show them off.(and some do absolutely nothing, not even a cosmetic change...even worse some are actually useful. which is worse IMO but there you go)

You are already trying to find ways to max the title....well some people might use similar methods to max it...there’s nothing wrong with that, is their game-time.

If a person kills their char deliberately at the start of every farm run...I think the char would probably be unhappy with his condition.

32000 deaths are very difficult to obtain in a year yes. We are clearly not thinking in the same time-frame. For me obtaining a R2 in treasure hunter has taken 2 YEARS. Yes some people can get it in what...weeks? Kudos to them.

Please be critical if you must, but use arguments that the general playerbase would use, all I need now is for someone to come out and tell me emo title would make people hack into Anet servers with a NSA supercomputer just to obtain it. After all, anything’s possible.

One thing I retain is that you are proposing (it’s a proposal?) to lower the number of deaths for max rank I’m just afraid that lowering the requirement would make people think it’s more easily obtainable via methods you described. How many deaths do you suggest?
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 01:54 AM // 01:54   #27
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I think this idea is ok as long as you make the title names different (even though they are funny) and get rid of the visual changes. This title is way to easy to have visual rewards.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #28
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It IS an attack on the social position "Emo".
It's a ridiculous name anyways. And no one should brag about the most deaths... it's something to laugh at.

GW is sort of a "perfect" world... threats to vanquish that aren't too dangerous and no real differences within it's society (Noobs are just the kids and everyone is decent looking).
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06   #29
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i like the idea of a title for chars before the surviror title but this is to easy to farm /not sighned
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26   #30
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Legendary defender of ascalon+max emo title together ftw?
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 08:29 AM // 08:29   #31
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lol this would an awesome title

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 09:16 AM // 09:16   #32
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There are few titles which require absurd amounts of "X" to Max out (faction for example)
Yet they all require some commitment, whether it be time or money (or both).

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There are a few titles that have NO max rank
Wrong. All titles have been given a max. The max is simply raised every once and a while.

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There are a few titles that require nothing but the occasional mouse click.
Occasional mouse click, over a few months. Even the Lucky and Unlucky titles are more logical than a deaths title, both require a huge amount of gold to get.

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If you are going to use macros...well then for starters I’m not sure that’s not considered cheating, and secondly ALL titles heck the WHOLE GAME could be done AFK.
I'd love to see you try.

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There are more than a few titles that have AFK value only already, yet people like to show them off.(and some do absolutely nothing, not even a cosmetic change...even worse some are actually useful. which is worse IMO but there you go)
Titles were made to be cosmetic. If you have a problem with this, why would you want another "useless" title?

Besides, the only AFK titles are the Lucky and Unlucky, which as I already said, require a huge amount of gold.

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You are already trying to find ways to max the title....well some people might use similar methods to max it...there’s nothing wrong with that, is their game-time.
Shows how bad an idea this title is, doesn't it?

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If a person kills their char deliberately at the start of every farm run...I think the char would probably be unhappy with his condition.
What does that even matter? You're the one going for a title that would make people's characters die much more than necessary.

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32000 deaths are very difficult to obtain in a year yes. We are clearly not thinking in the same time-frame. For me obtaining a R2 in treasure hunter has taken 2 YEARS. Yes some people can get it in what...weeks? Kudos to them.
A year? Try a week or so.

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Please be critical if you must, but use arguments that the general playerbase would use, all I need now is for someone to come out and tell me emo title would make people hack into Anet servers with a NSA supercomputer just to obtain it. After all, anything’s possible.
Then they would get promptly banned (maybe even tracked down and arrested). Really, most of the arguments here would be used. You think we're the only ones who would see the huge problems with the idea?



You've ignored that fact that every other title requires something from the player. It can be in the form of time, money or both. This title, requires neither.

Besides, Gaile has always persisted that there will not be a deaths title, due to it being too easy to afk.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 12:51 PM // 12:51   #33
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Gaile has said a lot of things. Its not all set in stone.

1. this title requires time, how could you have missed that. AFK time is still time, like i said people ALREADY AFK titles, if thats they want to get it well then no system is going to stop them. I dont think most people would do it that way.

2. what is the maxed Max title rank? R3? R4? what is commander max title rank? Cobra? and if they are raised every once in a while is that not the same as saying "no limit?" Semantics.

3. As for macros OC its possible.(im not the one who proposed that in the first place) anything is possible.

4. Titles were made to show/reward dedication and no i do not have a problem with it. (re)read what i am responding to.

5. Like i Mentioned in the OP if you have a problems with TITLES in general take it elsewhere. AFK titles exist. Titles exist, some do nothing some do stuff they are part of the game now.

6. Why does it matter? is that a argument? pont of view? what are you trying to get accross? Oh that you dont like the title ok.

7. you suggest raising the number of deaths then. to how many?
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11   #34
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34   #35
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Just because you "die a lot" doesn't make you an emo. I think this is really stupid and offensive.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45   #36
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This title would be exactly the same than Sweettooth or gamer, but it wouldn't cost you anything.

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 01:47 PM // 13:47   #37
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Step 1: Walk outside outpost
Step 2: Run to a res shrine
Step 3: Pull a large group and remove all armor
Step 4: Let them kill you, you res at shrine, they attack and kill again
Step 5: Go to bed
Step 6: Wake up with a new title

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Old Aug 15, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #38
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30   #39
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my pre character allready has 166k deaths so you would deff need more ranks.
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Old Aug 15, 2007, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #40
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Death titles are stupid.
That'S the whole point! Why did they add Drunkard if not for fun.

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32000 deaths - Go afk in the Realm of Torment after pulling a few mobs
Solution : no point after 60% DP (easiest anti farm code)
32000 deaths w/ keyboard response needed - Go afk in the Realm of Torment and move occasionally or set up a macro
Solution : no point after 60% DP (easiest anti farm code)
32000 deaths w/ no counts after 60dp - Set up 3 heroes with Rebirth, get yourself down to 1 health, go afk and let heroes spam res you.
Solution : rebirth still give you DP
32000 deaths avoiding any possibilty of afking - not even remotely possible
Solution : probably possible but people will still find a way to get it non-legit. but ANYTHING in the game is farmable/trickable.
(responses are in the quote)
I thought it was said enough already that there SHOULD be an anti farm code... /sigh Some people are just slow to understand.

PS : sorry for any insults concerning your intelligence

EDIT : /signed I'm on the edge today.
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