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hyro yamaguchi · Aug 17, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Ensign

Ever since they made the 'core skills' distinction it has seemed obvious that a free, core-only PvP edition would be a great marketing tool for the game. As long as it's sufficiently locked down that the goldhausen wouldn't want to make a bunch of free accounts as mules, core-only free accounts would seem to be a good way to get people to try the game and generate sales from those who enjoyed it.

Why isn't there one? I wouldn't know, but it's entirely consistent with their marketing failures elsewhere.

The answer to this lies in runescape.

basically what is being proposed here: large portion of the game free. What you get is 99% of the players playing the free game all the time because it's big enough to be played without the extra stuff.

Now Runescape is a browser based game with very low graphics, no large staff to pay, no marketing campaigns, and the paid version has monthly fees.

Guildwars however has...better graphics, large staff of people, marketing campaigns and just one time pay. And: since it's pvp a constantly shifting metagame, which therefore keeps being interesting.

So what you get is a tiny portion of the new people actually buying the game, but huge pressure on the servers => loads of money spend on paying more.

The idea is nice though, and I'd certainly like it, it'd create an even bigger online community, but I just don't see Anet doing this.

Solas · Aug 17, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

/disagree

think about it if they gave away free pvp accounts you'd have more noobs in ra whining about WoW.

since it was free acount the can cuss, swear and jsut deteriarate the gaming atmosphere for the peopel who bought it, and if they did get banned whats stopping them gettign another free pvp account?

the ascalon idea
- more people would be pre-napping
- more cussing,swearing so forth
- and immature kids

all in all i really not a fan of this

all we need are more "PvP"-er jerks that go to a pve town and moan about how pve is easy, when more then likly they bought there rank in the first place.

hyro yamaguchi · Aug 17, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed

all we need are more "PvP"-er jerks that go to a pve town and moan about how pve is easy, when more then likly they bought there rank in the first place.

Uh...yeah. No one could have gotten their rank in an honest way right?

Seriously, people who whine about how easy pve is compared to pvp are (in most scenarios) right. Sure they're sad people who should shut up, but it really feels like a player who 0wns at PvE farming, tried PvP, failed and is now crying how it is impossible that people could be any good at PvP.

Taurucis · Aug 18, 2007, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Then everyone who bought PvP along with the game has gotten screwed over ONCE AGAIN by Anet.

Lawnmower · Aug 18, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

I don't understand where you guys are coming from.

I mean, pvp by itself is stale. everyone looks alike, few armors and stuff to choose from. skills and modes could be limited down too. Perhaps only make it TA and RA or something?

The way I see it = If a person downloads the free version, and likes it enough to keep playing it, they will not have a problem buying a campaign. The original is only like 15-20 bucks at EB games these days.
And if they dont like the game, then they wont play it anymore, and therefore not stress the servers anymore.

Its also a tactical suggestion because EOTN which is a PvE expansion, will be loaded with cool PvE stuff like armor and weapons - stuff that the "free players" would get to see from a distance when a camapign player would walk into town.

The free version could also have adds or other limititations. core skills was a neat idea too. Or maybe only a max 4 skill bar.

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This game needs blood. GWs PvP has not taken off like it could. you dont see tons and tons of GvG and cool pvp movies on youtube and stuff, unlike the crappy world of warcraft.

I think it would make sense to release a SMALL portion away for free. as a unlimited trial. jesus christ. so the pvp is half the game? yeah right. Please go and compare the number of areas/cutscenes/dialouge/objects/enemies/tilesets/sounds/music that are between the pvp part of GW and that of the campaign part.

Also it gives promotion and renewed interest.

look... people are getting scared to buy GW. THey are waiting for GW2 instead(or at least considering it). Look at this guy on gamespot; http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums...ic_id=25857266

greenreaper3 · Aug 18, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

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Originally Posted by InfernalSuffering

Go back to Ascalon City.

lol.. funny

Kip Been · Aug 18, 2007, 07:02 AM // 07:02

all free MMOs, whether free version or free trial, have an extremely high population of immature morons. I don't think it would be a good idea because of that fact.

If the free version wasn't so inclined to do more damage to the game, than good, then I would support. There is no chance of that however.

Solas · Aug 18, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by hyro yamaguchi

Uh...yeah. No one could have gotten their rank in an honest way right?

Seriously, people who whine about how easy pve is compared to pvp are (in most scenarios) right. Sure they're sad people who should shut up, but it really feels like a player who 0wns at PvE farming, tried PvP, failed and is now crying how it is impossible that people could be any good at PvP.

its just liek going kurzick and goign to a luxon ab area and whiing about luxons,

pvp aint impossible nor pve, jsut requires time.

on the comtrary i do not farm, ifind it repetitive and boring. jsut playing the gmae is better

of coarse i pve and i know most titles can pretty much be bought. but honestly how often do you see pve'rs going to HA and going "this is n00bf3st l0l3|25" not sayign it doesnt happen.

also i never said EVERYONE buy em, tons of people put alot of work in the fame title track(along se it as being diffacult but the emphisis in the those types that go into pve zones jsut to moan and rage, can you seee em on a team, " no n00bz attack this"

imp that puts a nice ibt of pve'rs off pvp.

and you are right i dont pvp much, got r4 and r3 in luxon and kurzick, majority done in ab.

barly havent enough fame/glads to mention

Kool Pajamas · Aug 18, 2007, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Maybe they could have a promotion. Core pvp only pack for $5. All core skills unlocked, maybe a few runes. Let people get a feel for the pvp part of the game. They wouldn't all flood HA. They'd have to go through the RA->TA->HA thing before they can get to HA.

Or maybe the pvp pack for factions should open FA, JQ and AB up. Or does it already? FA, JQ and AB, like RA are a beginners/casual pvp area. Good for letting people get their feet wet. Those areas are the best reason for getting Factions.

Wish Swiftdeath · Aug 18, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55

give them access to TA, i'd like to max out my glad title :P

Kain666 · Aug 18, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Theres enough that we don't pay a monthly fee to play the game...make it free at all would be stupid i think.