Curse

Alicendre · Aug 16, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by Shadis

Was that truly necessary? I can recall epic European whining about the Favor system when they rarely had it. It goes both ways.

I know (and it bothered me too), it was just to remind people that Europeans aren't the only ones to blame... Plus I've never seen someone bothered by the fact that other countries have the favor, as long as we have it, at least in PvE.

Though I remember PvPers saying this was bullshit because there were no more competition... Nonsense... -_-

Just threw the favor away... It's the all same anyway, I don't even know what text spawns when the favor stops...

Fitz Rinley · Aug 16, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

I have to go with the new Favor system. I have opposed the old favor system from the moment I became aware of it. The right of PvE players to access content for which they paid should never have been dependent upon the whims of fortune of a few elite PvP players. It is like saying you can only access HA within a 10 minute block of time after the Dragon Glint is killed by those in your region.

I favor the new Favor
/notsigned Fitz Rinley

Chris616263 · Aug 16, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

I'd like the new favor system more if they added minutes for EVERY title obtained, and not just maxed. Eventually, favor is going to burn out with everyone maxing their SS/LB titles. Then what?

MSecorsky · Aug 16, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

I'd like to hear from someone on the Asian servers what they think?

Ghost Omel · Aug 16, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Europeans europeans europeans im your brethereb who lives IN New York city I am proud you winning the Hall in all but please who are you kidding
this system isnt perfect but its better then you bretheren to have all the fun while WE EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS GET NOTHIN
heres the situation
16 year old during school year has hardly an hour to play on PC with all the studies and things YOU European Brethern are in DIFERENT time zone and IF we get FAVOR WE get it during umm hmm uhmm 1-2-3 AM at night you know life sleeping is really important NOW we can get there almost ANY time which means about 1 and a half MILLION users have accses to the FoW.

Now to all fo you GREEDY Merchants Ectoplasms worth that much becouse umm other people are LAZY to get them and 1 out of 30 players is a merchnt who sels ectos so other 29 poeple either have no time or accses or money power to go to FoW. But now thank you god your rich fat buttocks will learn to REALLY EARN your money in order to recieve what you need. I personalu went there about 3 times and got about umm 2 ectos umm not much i dont need FoW armor but trust me now no ECONOMY will get hurt and instead of USING ECTOS as gold you will find somehting else to use To bad for you Now all will be able to get Ectos and you will become uselse
System is on green light and all go obviously HoH now according to my Bretheren uselses but i though its a good place to ENJOY THE GAME as it was intended to in the first place
Have Fun and stop that uselses unbased personal snot nosed attitudes No matter how much i WAS proud of you bretheren it just hurts me to see your true nature
Peace out

genofreek · Aug 17, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14

You know, I never even bothered with even checking /favor before, because it was always gonna say that Europeans had it. I saw America get it now and then, usually if I stayed up long enough to watch the sun rise. More often than not, I never even saw us win favor. And I saw Japan get it maybe three times.

Now I can log on and see that HOLY CRAP I can do what I want when I want without having to shell out extra/farm for a scroll or wait until the small hours of the morning!

So, /notsigned. I like this change. It's not perfect and there need to be some fixes (PLEASE remove Survivor from the list; jackass quitters don't need even more reason to max the title), but Anet can build those bridges when we come to them. Personally, I'd like it if there was no grind to earn favor, but I realize access needs to be earned somehow. I'm just happy that PvP doesn't limit my PvE anymore. There's nothing in PvE that prevented PvPers from reaching something, so I always sort of felt cheated.

One other point.

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From day one, I thought the old favor system was the worst part of GW. Not because of the usual stated reasons, but because I thought that it drug nationalism and discrimination, quite unnecessarily, into a fantasy world.

Instead of talking about in-game nationalities like Ascalonian and Krytan, everyone was always bitching about Koreans, or Europeans, or Americans. What a terrible thing to artificially add to a video game, what with all of the miserable things going on in the real world these days.

I couldn't be happier to see the end of that system. Good riddance!

THIS. This, SO HARD. Everyone always complained so much about the Europeans always having favor that they barely paid attention to anything else going on. It divided us. And why should the gods of Guild Wars favor Europe over America when neither location exists in their world? Now we can all work together for the enjoyment of everyone. As noted, it's not perfect, but it's about three miles in the right direction IMO.

Nobody loses, except maybe the whiners who played HoH for favor only (I've seen maybe two ITT). Or the people stockpiling ectos. And those people can go on doing what they enjoy, find something else to do, or QQ more and quit. Don't really care.

Phoenix Tears · Aug 17, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Yes, the momantous Favor Solution is the biggest ****' anet could make, to combine Favor with titles, which are limited -.-

Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO can't they simple combine the favor System for PvE with the Levels !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everytime someone in PvE gains a next Level, the continent, where the player plais on, will receive points for Favor of the gods.
And regardless, where you play, everytime, when 100 People gained a new level, Underworld and so on will be opened for 30 Minutes.
once opened, every next level gain will give the duration a bonus of 30 seconds.

Receive the players within those 30 Minutes+ Bonus Time a sum of over 500k Exp, then the Underworld ect will get additional bonus time of 15 Minutes and this stacks, everytime, when players make together on their continent in the time over 500k Exp

*if 500k is too much, lower it to 350k or 250k) Every players exp counts, that it playing

Fitz Rinley · Aug 17, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10

The simplest solution has always been a quest to open it.

If you can make it to Grenth's Temple in Lornar's Pass and talk to an NPC then you get 1 free non-tradeable token/scroll for entry into UW or FoW. The player chooses which.

It has never made sense to tie UW/FoW to Favor of the Gods. It should never have been done. It makes a lot more sense to have Favor create the bonuses at the Resurrection Shrines as they do in Cantha. And I agree that that should occur based on the player. Each time a player achieves a title or receives a skill point then the Favor Benefits can be obtained from the Res Shrines during the next hour. This should be on all three continents.

sterbenx2 · Aug 17, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42

while I don't really care for the whole title thing deciding favor, I like this system MUCH more than the old one.. so

/notsigned

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Aug 17, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

revert favor system back... /signed

make elite areas elite again... /signed

allow people who have accumulated wealth in ectos (most common trading tool aside from gold) to retain some of their previous wealth... /signed

keep fow armor as THE elite armor... /signed

... I hate the new favor system

Razz Thom · Aug 17, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation

revert favor system back... /signed

make elite areas elite again... /signed

allow people who have accumulated wealth in ectos (most common trading tool aside from gold) to retain some of their previous wealth... /signed

keep fow armor as THE elite armor... /signed

... I hate the new favor system

And where do you come from? and do you work or go to school?
probably just sit in a basement somewhere finding ways to be "uberleet" (pronounced lifeless)

RobTehUnknown · Aug 18, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

/NOTSIGNED

I see this as a great change in the transition of Gw to gw2 I can see arenanet is heading in the PvE direction..I used to be a HARDCORE PvP player..holding my lovely r10 rank I am looking forwars to maxing out every title in the game to hold favor for my fellow comrads And Hell im not complaining..by the way...I think everyone wouldnt mind FoW costing 50k ^^ Cause with this new favor system favor25/7=ecto prices down

AngeloM3 · Aug 18, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

I still dont get it........ we've had favor for how many days straight and people are still complaining they dont like the new system.... ???

They must of ran out of things to bitch about.

Dougal Kronik · Aug 18, 2007, 10:17 AM // 10:17

/not signed

/signed if the idea was for a total removal of Favor based on other players performance. Definitely a step in the right direction as Favor which affects PvE is now PvE based.

legion_rat · Aug 18, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

/notsigned as its been said. Buy a scroll. screw favor.

~the rat~

Kazamafury · Aug 18, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

I like the new system. The new system promotes global teamwork. I've read that Guild Wars will also be expanding to Australia. Now imagine Japan, Taiwan and now Australia barely ever getting favor. Buy scrolls.

/notsigned

Solas · Aug 18, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

/notsigned

pve reward earned through pve

A11Eur0 · Aug 19, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Why would they need to buy scrolls? Last time I checked, there were 700+ minutes remaining, and it keeps getting bigger and bigger. And the whole world has favor. You can't trade with people on the european server unless you're in the international districts which noone is, not trading anyway. So, you're reliant on those who spent their early mornings when America had favor farming UW for ecto, FoW for shards, instead of going in there yourself and getting your own on your own time.

This is a good system. People are rushing to get titles to keep favor, which I feel is a mistake because it'll burn itself out in no time. It's not the devs fault, it's the players who grind it out, just to have something else to grind. Like farming...the value of green items dropped because they were farmed. Defeats the purpose. You're relying on the insta-value of a new green by going out and farming 20 of them...what happens when you farm them too late and you miss the price boom? Now you're stuck with 20 green items in your inventory that aren't worth the server space required to keep them in the game. When greens were introduced, Victo's blade was 50k or more..now you'll be lucky to sell for 5k, because it was overfarmed.

I digress...this is about favor not green items. People grind out titles to keep favor, but that constant worldwide favor increases the number of ecto and shards on the market, and your precious rare materials are going to be as common as steel. all that time wasted, all those purchases of ecto for 5k each...down the drain. I'm content with my occasional ecto or shard when I go into the UW or FoW....sitting on only 13 ecto and 8 shards and I'm happy because I earned them on my own time.

Graphik Desine · Aug 19, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

/notsigned

not because it has anything to do with anyone being greedy.

of course there are greedy people. not saying there are no greedy people.

but because
PvP victories should have never held anything over PvE-ers' heads.

PvE is a totally different "mentality animal" than PvP.
role playing is a lot more relaxed, generally not competitive, more friendly, etc etc.
player killing is all the opposites, in general. this is nothing new.

and it used to be (and still can find this) that people who sat around and waited for favor had no idea that players had to kill other players' chars to get that favor back. and think to themselves, how can you do that? kill other peoples chars? that isn't very nice...:P but having the kinder-hearted people waiting for others to "decide" to get together and try to win favor/halls...way too dependent of a system for two different types of people.

why should relaxed people who want to farm UW/FoW all day long suffer because their region has little to no representation in HA? and spend 2-3k on scrolls for 15 hours just to enjoy themselves? you lose more money doing it this way than the new system, where favor runs out and you need a scroll you don't need a scroll each time over the course of 15 hours--but rather maybe a few hours and spend max 4k on scrolls.

people need to do some things for themselves sometimes, that indirectly helps others, which is what the titles are there for--something to work towards, which happens to be favor now.

now all the players who PvE and grind/farm etc can rely on other grind/farm PvEers based on what they are doing.

better to rely on AND help those with the same qualities as their own, than rely on others that really don't care about the PvEers or the PvE aspect of the game.

._.

Eli Rela · Aug 20, 2007, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

... If you can make it to Grenth's Temple in Lornar's Pass and talk to an NPC then you get 1 free non-tradeable token/scroll for entry into UW or FoW. The player chooses which...

I see new jobs for Droknar Runners
*Grenth's Temple Rickshaw*

Otherwise I like new favor system.
/notsigned