Curse

phasola · Nov 23, 2006, 09:49 AM // 09:49

/notsigned
Half of the fun in RA is watching some wamo rage.

Arduin · Nov 23, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by Dalimoor_Kalkire

Say your error 7, lose power, computer crashses, freezes, automatic updates for Windows kicks you, wireless connection has a hiccup, the phone rings, the doorbell rings, something starts to burn in the oven, soup on the stove bowls over, video card dies, motherboard fries, monitor goes out, dog wants out, pizza guy is at the door, police are at the door, your kids need your help, wife needs your help, husband needs your help, baby is crying, smoke alarm goes off, wireless mouse runs out of batteries, wireless keyboard runs out of batteries, power surge to your computer hits, you fall alseep at the helm, forgot about your dentist oppointment, doctors visit, have to pick up kids from school, from sports, from extra curricular activities, house starts to flood, tornado is coming, hurricane is rising, or a stampeed of chickens leveled your home...yeah...don't think punishing people for leaving is fair. It's not always their fault. We don't know the circumstances.

/not signed ^^

Effendi Westland · Nov 23, 2006, 12:55 PM // 12:55

All above reasons to leave would not be hurt by a 30 minute cooldown period, except maybe err=7, but anet can check if such an error occured, so...

/signed

gamecube187 · Nov 23, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

There are only 2 reasons to rage RA.
1: At least 2 other people rage first (3v4 is still easy to win)
2: Your internet blows up.

There are zero other reasons to leave. By clicking enter mission you accept that you will be playing with mending wammos and touch rangers. If you don't like that, go to TA or PvE.

/signed

Nothing more needs to be said.

/signed to punishing ragequiters somehow

max gladius · Nov 25, 2006, 07:38 PM // 19:38

The only arguments i see that someone wouldnot want some type of punishment are very lame... oh, power went out!, well 5 mins from then, i wouldnt be back in worrying about RA, i would be fixing problem!..... and if you can read my initial posting, alot of the comments dont even apply.... like saying RA is useless... then in my opinion ur opinion doesnt matter.....

I have gotten many many Glad points from teams with no monks... i have had many non monk teams own teams with 2 monks.... the comments about oh, noone will die if 2 on 2 monks is wrong, yes, it happens, but how hard would it be to take 2 mins of fighting then quitting?

i am mainly talking about ppl who leave as they load.... if u wait 1 or 2 mins, it isnt going to kill u, and if it does, then guess what, u can reenter!

Former Ruling · Nov 25, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

/Laugh at the people that take RA seriously....RA is a place for newbies in the game to wet their feet in PvP or for an advanced player to have alittle fun.

If someone doesn't like the fact that they are on a team with a Hamstorm Warrior, a Ranger that brought only nature rituals, and a pure-smiting monk...Sure I don't mind if they leave.

You should never go into RA expecting to get Glad Points (or even to get a competent team) - just be happy when it happens.

I myself use RA:
1) Like Skuld, to get that last few hundred faction to unlock something.
2) When noone is on and I'm totally bored so I monk to get a glad point or something
3) When I want to have alittle fun, so I roll up any number of weird silly builds and see how much mayhem I can cause.

(I personally love the Ranger that just casts Spirits, I love setting Nature's Renewel when we have 1-2 Whammos

)

Guardian of the Light · Nov 25, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

/notsigned

you see some people have these things called "lives" which are activities outside GW. Sometimes they have to deal with some of the things in their "lives" that come up suddenly (like an angry wife). So they have to quit GW.

Most of the time these people with lives will already have enough crap to deal with if they have to leave and the last thing they need is something else to deal with.

shardfenix · Nov 26, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

/notsigned

you see some people have these things called "lives" which are activities outside GW. Sometimes they have to deal with some of the things in their "lives" that come up suddenly (like an angry wife). So they have to quit GW.

Then that 1-hour penalty won't affect them at all. Learn how to put things together.

Not A Fifty Five · Nov 26, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Hehe lets keep bumping this, get the record for unsigned

Jacxxmaster · Nov 26, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Maybe they could make it so it was impossible to quit an RA except through err7 or closing the window? That would totally piss ragequitters off.

S h e r r y · Nov 26, 2006, 05:27 AM // 05:27

oh noes billy rage quiteded and im not good enuff to take on 4 peeps wit my team of fwee. slap a wuler acwoss biwy's hand!

translation: oh darn Bill quit this round, and I have not the skills for three versus four. punish Bill.

further translation: dude. deal with it. no one cares.

max gladius · Feb 16, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34

THE POINT OF THIS POST ISNT HOW MANY EXCUSES CAN WE COME UP WITH WHY NOT TO RA..

OR IF THE WORLD BLOWS UP AND I GET DISCONNECTED.. LET ME BACK IN RA NOW...

Notice, the people saying "oh RA isnt serious, there shouldnt be a punishment"
to me they r saying that they rage quit, also they r saying that if they leave, they want right back in...

I know atleast 8 names from american districts, that always rage quit with no monk, they dont even see what team is, they just leave....

MY PERSONAL PUNISHMENT FOR THEM... i get my monk and... NO HEALING FOR THEM... love when they tell me i suck and cus me out... i would bet that atleast 3 of them have replied on this forum....

I have earned 31 glad points all from RA, and love every minute of it....

To some ppl it is serious, some people enjoy the challenge of random teams, not random number of teams...

YOU CAN WIN WITH NO MONK, DONE IT MANY TIMES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UprQxvANvDc

Diddy bow · Feb 16, 2007, 06:08 PM // 18:08

/signed
you WILL play. you WILL NOT leave. and you WONT have a break i dont care if your cats on fire. Guild Wars may be a game but if you DARE to defy us and leave we WILL delete your account.

Zeddicus Tam · Feb 16, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50

To those of you that are saying RA is useless, only for noobs, only for advanced players to laugh at people, etc., that isn't the point of this thread. Try reading the topic before trying to derail the thread or discourage an idea simply to fulfill your own agendas/limited points of view. RA certainly isn't useless, pointless, or only for noobs. It's a great place to test out builds and to test out your ability to adapt to completely random groups/builds. And sometimes it's fun to just get some quick faction with a random group of people. RA is a part of the game whether you like it or not. It does matter, even if it doesn't matter to you.

Now, on to the issue at hand. Leavers are becoming a really big problem in RA. Naturally you're going to encounter people that suck or do stupid things in RA, and there will be times when you have no chance of winning. That's a given. But people that leave before they see the team, how people play, or before the door even opens should be punished somehow.

I've seen the same people repeatedly leave before the door opens or within a few seconds after joining. Or I've seen people join and immediately kill themselves before the door opens. People that do these things should be punished somehow. There's no way that real life is interfering in these cases or 10-20 times in a row.

I'm all for a 5 to 10 minute cool down period if you leave before the door opens or leave before the timer reaches a certain time (30 seconds would probably work). 5 to 10 minutes would be enough time to discourage people from leaving so quickly but it wouldn't be so long that people wouldn't be able to play. If real life does interfere (children are fighting, your stove explodes, etc.), by the time you get back you'll be able to play again. I don't think something like this is unreasonable or unnecessary. The number of leavers is becoming excessive and is really hurting RA.

/signed

Chewbacca Defense · Feb 16, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland

All above reasons to leave would not be hurt by a 30 minute cooldown period, except maybe err=7, but anet can check if such an error occured, so...

/signed

What prevents a rage quitter from just pulling their network plug to fake an err=7. Doesn't solve anything.

/notsigned

Anyway, this is a game and fun should be had. Not punishment. If you want to preven rage quitters, get a bunch of friends together and go to TA. If you really enjoy playing the game, then win or lose, it shouldn't matter.

Zeddicus Tam · Feb 16, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca Defense

Anyway, this is a game and fun should be had. Not punishment. If you want to preven rage quitters, get a bunch of friends together and go to TA. If you really enjoy playing the game, then win or lose, it shouldn't matter.

But that's the point. Having half your team leave before the doors open almost every time you enter a battle isn't fun. Often times it's impossible to even have a chance to fight a battle. That isn't fun, unless you consider 2v4 fun. Losing because your team sucks is one thing. But constantly losing because you don't have a team is a waste of time.

max gladius · Feb 16, 2007, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca Defense

/notsigned

Anyway, this is a game and fun should be had. Not punishment. If you want to preven rage quitters, get a bunch of friends together and go to TA. If you really enjoy playing the game, then win or lose, it shouldn't matter.

WOW, NICE JUMP TO A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LVL ON NOT READING THE FORM TOPIC!!!!

You made a very good point "this is a game and fun should be had. Not punishment."

Thats like saying, I was drinking and driving, cops pulled me over and ruined my fun....

You shouldn't have to go to TA, why else would there be RA? do you think the point of RA is to just leave your team???

*** Read Forum before you post! and don't come here looking to troll around the topic. Topic is very easy and to the point. ***

Sofonisba · Feb 16, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48

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Originally Posted by Chewbacca Defense

What prevents a rage quitter from just pulling their network plug to fake an err=7. Doesn't solve anything.

/notsigned

Anyway, this is a game and fun should be had. Not punishment. If you want to preven rage quitters, get a bunch of friends together and go to TA. If you really enjoy playing the game, then win or lose, it shouldn't matter.

LOL I've posted in so many of these threads...

If there is a punishment of 2 mins for a quitter... this quitter would rather pull the plug? They'd have to re-establish the connection/relog in, right? That takes mmmmm ... approximately 2 minutes.

Perhaps faced with 2 mins of no entering RA--one way or another--a potential quitter would think twice about quitting for no legitimate reason.

/signed

***

Sort of offtopic, I've read threads about folks who can't get into HA teams, they get called noob, go back to RA. Then you have threads about folks who make a hobby of RA, ie enjoy it and want to make it better... and those who won't let them on their leet HA teams in a milliion years, saying RA is for noobs, your opinion doesn't matter.

Chewbacca Defense · Feb 16, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by max gladius

You made a very good point "this is a game and fun should be had. Not punishment."

Thats like saying, I was drinking and driving, cops pulled me over and ruined my fun....

Sorry, but that's taking it out of context. I'm trying to say punishing people will not solve anything.

Drinking and Driving is not a game. That's a big difference. You're oversimplifying my example, which is ok because you are entitled to oversimplifying if you want.

But let me repeat. Drinking and Driving is not a game.

Guildwars on the other hand is a game. The seriousness of this is that when you log off, you are returned to reality in which your decisions will affect life.

Punishment in a game, will only affect the general gaming population negatively. I say that because I've worked at a game company that has punished users for doing something and seen a drop in profits due to that.

Whereas the opposite works great which is to promote not doing something.

Reward for not doing something > Punishing people for doing something

This applies in general to a gaming community and can be applied to larger things in life such as running a country and raising a family. Examples, would be promoting tax deductions for taking public transit in Canada versus outlawing of driving SUV's.

For the sake of younger people that may read this:
Guild Wars is not equal to Drinking and driving.

TheSlyOne · Feb 16, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41

/signed for a penalty for rage-quitting. 2 minutes seems to not be so drastic. RA is quite fun, but if it takes three attempts to get into a match where the noob, glad point farming whammo doesn't rage, that kind of kills it. I've always loved RA. The randomness of the builds is hilarious. I think it should be improved though. Some of those teams don't seem too random... I've seen teams all from the same Guild, or all Rt spikers... That's just strange. /endrant