Curse

Tetram The Troll · Jun 07, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Look at the Skill Hunter title, a lot of people may go with guildies or random PUGs just to skill cap and not finish the mission. Trust me, there's a lot of missions to cap in.

Suicide?

Anyway,

/signed

bored with these f****** leavers...

BrotherGilburt · Jun 07, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by Death3D

Im not sure if anyone has came to the conclusion that this is tottaly stupid.

Person A leaveas 50 times just to laugh and make a group fail and gets enjoyment on it.

Person A presses 'H' to check his progress on this new title, realzing he just got Well Known Quitter (3).

Person A is so happy! he is now 4/5 for the Kind of a Big Deal.

And the best note is, youll never know hes a quitter since its not shown. Titles are optional, you dont need to show that title, or any title for that matter. so this whole whine is a big waste of time.

Although I totally don't agree with this title have you read the first post? This title automatically covers up your current title makeing you unable to use it for the Kind of a Big Deal title....

Brother Gilburt

Aki Soyokaze · Jun 07, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by Death3D

Im not sure if anyone has came to the conclusion that this is tottaly stupid.

Person A leaveas 50 times just to laugh and make a group fail and gets enjoyment on it.

Person A presses 'H' to check his progress on this new title, realzing he just got Well Known Quitter (3).

Person A is so happy! he is now 4/5 for the Kind of a Big Deal.

And the best note is, youll never know hes a quitter since its not shown. Titles are optional, you dont need to show that title, or any title for that matter. so this whole whine is a big waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

...you get a permanenet "Quitter" title that is stuck to you, you cant hide it, and the only way to reset it is to do 10 or 15 Coop missions with the bonuses from A to Z.

The idea was to have this title as something you cannot change and not something that you'd want, thus not working towarads the 'kind of a big deal' title. The OP never suggested that it was something you can get variours levels in(1-4, etc.), only that you don't want this title attributed to you because of the fact that you can't change it.

It has been suggested that people would intentionally try to get it because they thought it might be funny; but the idea is to shun people and make them not want it, like wearing a dunce cap. It would've been nice if you had read the original post before you decided to slam this as 'stupid', a 'waste of time', and the poster as a 'whiner'. Perhaps then you could've added something constructive rather than just a flame against the thread and the OP.

Halfthought · Jun 07, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58

one word=err7

anonymous · Jun 07, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

People should be able to leave a group if they want. No one should be forced to stick around with that a-hole that is making them mad or that wammo noob.

TadaceAce · Jun 07, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

yey for us, but in othr accasions, those quitters are just waisting everybodys time, be cuase everybody either quits or we all have to go back to outpust to look for somebody new.my idea:

First off I would like to say if somebody talked like you in my group I'd call you a hillbilly and probably leave.
"yey" "othr" "accasions" "waisting" "everybodys" "cuase" "new.my"
Did you put any thought into this post while you were posting it or did you watch television as you tried to type sentences?

This idea is completely stupid because people have to leave for other reasons, say a group member forgot a skill and one person won't resign? Or you have 1 henchmen and can't resign?

Oh not to mention they could do worse, one they could go afk and get that green drop, or two they could intentionally aggro everything and kill the group. I agree with the above poster, nobody should have to listen to a wammo who thinks hes amazing.

BrotherGilburt · Jun 07, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

I quit sometimes. Heres an example of something that happened a while ago and happens OVER AND OVER. I was MM in a BP group for tombs. one of the rangers says "WHY THE HELL ARE YOU USING MINION NOT FIENDS??? NEWB!!!1". Obviously this shows that the person doesnt understand the way the team build works. Normally this wouldnt upset me however I asked for an experienced group. So what did I do next? I quit. What does it matter? to them I was useless so why not quit.

No, your not useless. Thats one newb. No one else in the group was a newb. Do you really think the leader of the party can sniff out newbs? No, its not the rest of the groups fault you got 1 newb. You really had no right to quit there. Its not like you wouldn't be able to complete the run. You just ruined it for all the experianced people in that group. You should of just explained why at least before quiting.... To them you were not useless. Only one of them was calling you a newb.....

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Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

Another example is from when I played healing monk, there was a warrior who stands in firestorm, aggroes every visible mob, doesnt wait for my regen, and then complains to me that I dont heal or res. Again, I am considered useless to the group and I quit.

Yes, that tank is a newb. But the rest of the group isn't. You were only considered useless by one guy.... I'm sure everyone else didn't think you were useless... You really shouldn't quit. You should of yelled at the warrior and told him not to rush. I've been in groups like this as a monk. I didn't leave and we still won. You shouldn't of quit here either. Tell the warrior to stop. You probably could of just told the tank how to fix what he was doing wrong and he could of done better. Quiting as a monk ruins it for everyone whos not a newb. You could of also questioned the group about how they play before you start the mission.

I've completed Thunderhead Keep with 7 people with 2 of them not infused. I have played and won with many newb groups. You shouldn't abandon them when theres one newb...

Brother Gilburt

Ira Blinks · Jun 07, 2006, 10:46 PM // 22:46

Interesting how so many people think quitters are obligated to pull worthless groups and tolerate jerks...

Funny story happened to me this weekend. I was in Urgoz mission with guild group I was in for like a day then. So we stopped about half way to take a break. And this one guy started drawing male genitalia on the radar. I asked him nicely to stop. I got "stfu" in response. I warned him I will leave the group if he doesn't stop. I got "[email protected] you" in response. I leave mission. Before I even loaded town I got kicked out of that guild... And the guild leader pms me and tryin to make me feel sorry about what happen. Pathetic...

Excuse me, am I ruining someones fun by leaving? Well ofcourse you didn't think you ruining my fun by being immature jerk or complete noob or a griefer. I don't care if someones idea of fun revolves around farming for some stupid item. My idea of fun is to enjoy game with bunch of decent people who was a clue or at least listens to others. When I don't get that, I leave and look for another group because I dont feel like getting into verbal fight with every idiot out there. Anyone who says I should be punished for that can go straigh to hell.

So how about no? How about you whiners make yourself worthy to stick to you first?

Sphinx2k · Jun 07, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by Makkert

Not to mention this idea is lacking in practical aspect, since leaving can be a collective decision of the group, erred out, real life emergency, etc...

i agree should we get punish if we get an err07/a power surge/real life emergancy etc etc etc. People will always get into argument with each other and leave so as not to provoke the rest of your grp from joining in and ganking on them even if u r on some differecult mission not like a b/p grp at tombs is hard just time consuming. Would u rather have that person trying to get the rest of your grp killed just so he can leave and not earn a point in "The Quitter" title.

/not-signed

Evilsod · Jun 07, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by Tetram The Troll

Suicide?

Anyway,

/signed

bored with these f****** leavers...

Oh right so this title can distinguish between a leaver or ragequitter and someone lagged out, had to go or is taking henchman?

This'd be great to give scammers new ammo. Now when they refuse to pay you when you run Elona Reach for them, leaving and restarting gets you labelled permamently as a quitter. So you either get no groups anywhere or let them get away with it. Think things through ffs. This thread is nothing but a rant anyway. Anet would never implement something like this, they're far too busy thinking up new even shittier skills to give the Elementalist.

Lord... he has a point, why ARE you using Minions instead of Fiends? Your there to stop them killing your party, not to provide them with the worst minion wall they've ever seen. What the hell is a lvl13 Minion suppose to do? If your not willing to explain yourself and you basically ragequit, your no better than the ones who 'caused' you to.

Mr D J · Jun 07, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08

That's just dumb... my computer crashes often because memory timings are not set right and there I get my quitter title on my warrior that has fissure and a few millions xp and wtf am I surposed to do.. delete him? /not signed

BrotherGilburt · Jun 08, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by Ira Blinks

Interesting how so many people think quitters are obligated to pull worthless groups and tolerate jerks...

Funny story happened to me this weekend. I was in Urgoz mission with guild group I was in for like a day then. So we stopped about half way to take a break. And this one guy started drawing male genitalia on the radar. I asked him nicely to stop. I got "stfu" in response. I warned him I will leave the group if he doesn't stop. I got "[email protected] you" in response. I leave mission. Before I even loaded town I got kicked out of that guild... And the guild leader pms me and tryin to make me feel sorry about what happen. Pathetic...

Excuse me, am I ruining someones fun by leaving? Well ofcourse you didn't think you ruining my fun by being immature jerk or complete noob or a griefer. I don't care if someones idea of fun revolves around farming for some stupid item. My idea of fun is to enjoy game with bunch of decent people who was a clue or at least listens to others. When I don't get that, I leave and look for another group because I dont feel like getting into verbal fight with every idiot out there. Anyone who says I should be punished for that can go straigh to hell.

So how about no? How about you whiners make yourself worthy to stick to you first?

Wow, that is definatly a good situation to leave(not sarcasim). I would of left there as well. Yet, another reason why this can't possibley be added.

Evilsod, Exactly.

Brother Gilburt

Sphinx2k · Jun 08, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Another example of this being a bad idea, you are in lets say underworld and your group is doing well oops 2ppl times out(due to a power surge) and they both get there 1/50 Quitter title. The rest of your team considers it pointless to continue and to just commit suicide but wait a minute lets say the monk in the group is going for legendary surviver and is only 20,000exp away, Your team sits and bitches at u for being a noob and not commiting suicide so they can go again b4 europe takes favor away do u, A.Give up all the hard work and kill yourself OR B.Mapout/Quit and gain a point for The Quiter title just so as not to lose all your hard work thus getting punished for doing nothing wrong in the first place. In the end 3 ppl get a point for no reason at all see were this is going punishing the innocent = bad mojo.

Another very annoying example would be ok we start said mission one player goes afk at the start what do we do continue on or wait for him? what if he doesn't come back so you just decide to continue on and half way though your team gets killed then what, do we sit and wait hours for the afker to come back or do we all map out gaining a point in the quitter title thus again punishing the innocent for no reason at all.

No matter how u put it this kinda of title would never get implemented in the way the OP has layed out for very obveious resons making this whole topic pointless.

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jun 08, 2006, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Various suggestions to improve Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry

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0. Greatly Improved Ignore list (by GrendelScout1)
Refer the example for an idea of how this would work:
1. John know Mary is a leecher, AFKer
2. John adds Mary to his ignore list
3. John clicks "Enter Mission" in any random arenas
4. John will never be placed in the same team with Mary

5. Other players who did not add Mary to their ignore list could be teamed up with Mary

6. Friends of John who know and trust his judgement also place Mary in thier respective ignore lists.
7. John and his friends live happily ever after.

Tetram The Troll · Jun 08, 2006, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

This'd be great to give scammers new ammo. Now when they refuse to pay you when you run Elona Reach for them, leaving and restarting gets you labelled permamently as a quitter. So you either get no groups anywhere or let them get away with it.

Ban these runners... If you wanna run instead of complete a mission yourself, just leave GW and buy a sport game. ~~

Sagius Truthbarron · Jun 08, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08

No, people will be farming it in RA >.>

generik · Jun 08, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

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Originally Posted by Halfthought

one word=err7

To counter this, why not make it a PERCENTAGE instead of an actual figure? The game can count the number of successfully completed entrances to outposts/missions vs the ones when you ragequit on. Then the top (say) 20 percentile of these champions will be awarded the quitter(1) title, the top 10 percentile the quitter(2) title, and the top 5 percentile awarding a **** a****** title.

It is definitely trivial to determine when a party has been successful and completed the objective it sets out to do, or just outright failed and everyone has given up.

When a person maps out/quits/disconnects of his party, simply observe the party for a certain period of time, if the majority of them quits within that time, then they have probably all agreed to break party and that first leaver was justified in leaving. Otherwise add a strike mark to the quitter.

Of course this doesn't really help in the times when a critical person (ie a monk) gets dropped from the party and resulted in a cascading chain reaction of ragequits shortly after, but you have to admit that the majority of cases can easily be handled be the method described above.

Helll is for Heroes · Jun 08, 2006, 11:24 AM // 11:24

lol, this title could be given alongside the Survivor title if-you-know-what-i-mean

generik · Jun 08, 2006, 11:34 AM // 11:34

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Originally Posted by Mr D J

That's just dumb... my computer crashes often because memory timings are not set right and there I get my quitter title on my warrior that has fissure and a few millions xp and wtf am I surposed to do.. delete him? /not signed

The title should be tied to your account instead of your character, so deleting your character should be the last of your worries.

Either get a better computer or live the consequences, each time you get dropped your party has to suffer for it. The reason why you got dropped is of no consequence nor consolation to them, the fact that it happened does.

Mr D J · Jun 08, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Better computer huh... so I run athlon 64 2800+, 1 gig of ram, 6600gt from xfx... as I was saying the problem is with memory timings and they are not set correctly. I'm sure anet is not gonna do any title like that because it's pure nonsence...