Curse

hallomik · Oct 03, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Operative 14

Now, here's a question. Do you continue to get any sort of Norn points after you have completed the quests in the far shiverpeaks? For instance, do you get points in all the titles for simply finishing the primary quests throughout the entire chapter? If so, that might be what I'm missing.

Yes. You do not need to do the quests to get rep points. You only stop getting points once you reach rank 8 (I have read

). My only point was that you should get as many points as you can while you're doing the quests to minimize the need to grind later.

Also, there are 3 dungeons that give a total of 6,000 Norn points (Frostmaw's burrows gives 3,000, Darkrime Delves gives 1,500, and Raven's point gives 1,500). Warning - This only works the first time through. The second dungeon run give a lot less. See this link for what dungeons you need to do for other reputations. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dungeon

I've taken 4 toons all the way thru EotN. I wanted Norn armor for my ranger. After doing all quests and dungeons, I vanquished 2 zones and was done. I wanted vanguard armor for my Rit. After getting all quests and dungeons, I was done - no grinding at all. I got sunglasses for my ele (I think he needs some eye protection from all that nuking). After doing all quests and dungeons, I vanquished magus stones twice and was done.

Really, all the complaining about forced grind rings false based on my experience. I read one thread where the guy was saying something like "what if I don't want to do quests or missions or dungeons or vanquish zones or mini-games to get my armor." All I could think was - dude, find a new game.

hallomik · Oct 03, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Ele sporting radiation shielding eyewear.

Enix · Oct 03, 2007, 04:21 AM // 04:21

What ever happened to...

Skill > Grind

?

Operative 14 · Oct 03, 2007, 06:27 AM // 06:27

O....kay. I think I understand what you're saying hallomik.

So, you do;

-All the quests in the region, and make sure to have Norn blessing on.
-All of the dungeons
-All of the primary quests throughout the rest of the game

And after that I should only have to clear out a few map areas? That's pretty much what I've done already, though. Granted, I havn't done Frostmaws lair, so I'll probably run off to do that next.

Thanks for your help guys.

I'm still holding out for 5 or 8 on my list though.

Horseman Of War · Oct 03, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enix

What ever happened to...

Skill > Grind

?

an armor set does not equal your skill. just like buying a shirt that says "I (heart) NY" when youve never been there- its kind of lame and makes you just a step under being a tourist.

the pve-only skills are not necessary to finish the game, and by doing 'everything' along the way they are all near-elite in power if not more by the time you finish. even the elite slaver's exile 'group build' that seems to be forming involves only a couple set consistencies- meaning there is no child left behind.

hallomik · Oct 03, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Operative 14

O....kay. I think I understand what you're saying hallomik.

So, you do;

-All the quests in the region, and make sure to have Norn blessing on.
-All of the dungeons
-All of the primary quests throughout the rest of the game

And after that I should only have to clear out a few map areas? That's pretty much what I've done already, though. Granted, I havn't done Frostmaws lair, so I'll probably run off to do that next.

Thanks for your help guys.

I'm still holding out for 5 or 8 on my list though.

I didn't comment much on your original suggestion. I do agree that a modified version of 8 would be a good idea. If you've done all the quests including the storyline and side-quests for a particular track, the armor should be available.

Vanquishing a few zones wasn't much, but it wasn't exactly fun either. And it sounds like you'll have to do a bit more vanquishing than I did because you may not have optimized getting Norn points as you did the quests. I see your point there.

Fitz Rinley · Oct 05, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

I see two things:

I hate all the grind fests as meaningless crap.

The high points is to cover the extreme amount of time they don't want to do anything for us while they work on GW2.

Steboy93 · Oct 05, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

I think that in order to get high ranks of titles there should be grind, otherwise everybody would be walking around sporting Holy Lightbringer, however, having to get rank 5 to get new armours is stupid. I was considering getting a piece or two of some of the new armours, but seeing at we have to get ranked 5 i really cannot be arsed. The last thing i want to do is have to repeatedly kill monsters over and over again just to get some bloody armour! I've killed the great destroyer, why should i have to repeatedly kill his plebby minions to be able to get some new armour!