Curse

Thargor · Aug 08, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57

So we have a title that takes a ton of hours to get and the only way to get it is by death leveling enemies. Add to that the issue that we now have to worry about some asshat trying to be funny and warping us out of presearing and we now have a very bad situation. This is unacceptable and needs to be dealt with.
Anet needs to make it impossible to drag someone out of presearing. I think that a permanent ban would be in order for anyone found doing this. I am sure that after they drag you out they will have some retarded childish comment about it so make sure and screenshot it and report.

Until anet does something about it I suggest that those of us that are serious about getting this title start using Ashford Abby as the place to get a gate opener. It is a longer run to the gate but at least you don't risk the chance of getting all your hard work wasted by an idiot.

DonBrouhaha · Aug 09, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04

/signed

While going for the LDoA everytime I joined a party to go Across the Wall I'd sweat someone would hijack me to Post - so assume six weeks+ = not fun

Zet

"signed @ presearing.com also"

william1975 · Aug 09, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

very nasty stuff. should be some way to prevent being dragged out,
especially for the legindary defender attemptors, as that takes way too long to do, to have to start again.

Countdown timer as said can be way too quick simple solution would be just to ask both party members if they want to go

Horseman Of War · Aug 09, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

well this hasnt happened to me yet, but Im so lazy that ill even use the striders outside said abbey.

im glad this thread brought this to my attention before I got 'jacked.

Government Flu · Aug 09, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

I attempted, passingly, to get to level 20 in pre-searing Ascalon only to quit eight hours later because it was mind numbingly boring. Ever since I learned about this title, I've considered the people who get it to be absolute fanatics in every respect.

However, there is no excuse for this horrendous griefing. If someone wishes to spend 300+ hours getting a title or enjoying the tutorial area every now and again with an established character, they should be able to do so. This is indeed a nasty nasty problem, even if it's rare.

I don't know what the others suggestions have been from above posters, but I believe the quest to go into post-sear should only accept one person. So if you want to talk Sir Tydus to exit pre and there's two people together, a red text message should appear reading that the party is too large.

Simple as that.

Fighterdoken · Aug 09, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

/signed

I wouldn't like to see pre become a "no-group" land just because of jerks that like bothering people to inflate their ego...

nursing assistant · Aug 09, 2007, 01:36 AM // 01:36

The people who does the dragging can just delete their character and be back at it in minutes. While those who are going for level 20 losses countless hours of hard work.

It takes away the perma-pre characters which hurts the presearing community.

/signed here and at presearing.com

Echuu Ishtar · Aug 09, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Another thing that could be done is to still allow map travel during the academy mission. I'm not sure if there's a guild hall travel button in that area, but if there is, it would obviously have to be taken out. I don't see that hurting anything.

/signed just because doing that is an all-time low.

CyberMesh0 · Aug 09, 2007, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Ok, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of anyone cruel and ruthless enough to do something like this.

As far as a solution goes... make it be a confimation screen for all involved or something? Best solution I can think of.

Melei Hawke · Aug 09, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

I had not heard of this or even considered it a possibility. I have a pre character that will stay there forever and I would be very unhappy if someone dragged me out against my will kicking and screaming (cuz I would be). Unfortunately I have already accepted a secondary profession so that solution will not work for me.

They already have one mission in nightfall that you must leave your party in order to enter the mission. It should be an easy change to set this mission as a solo mission as well.

/signed to prevent kidnapping of your pre character

Harmless · Aug 09, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

/signed

I think I won't take a secondary till this is fixed.

Invertation · Aug 09, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

A simple solution, as has been mentioned by some above, is just to make it possible so that only a single person can be waiting to do the mission. Change it so that whenever someone takes the quest and the timer begins, they de-party from you so that it renders it impossible for them to drag you along.
/signed

dread pirate fargus · Aug 09, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

thanks for all the support everyone, if anet dont listen to you guys il be suprised.

Astral Wraithguard · Aug 09, 2007, 09:58 AM // 09:58

signed/ This needs nipping in the bud and stamping out

Dreikki · Aug 09, 2007, 10:44 AM // 10:44

/signed with all I've got.

I am nearly level 17 and I would bloody kill someone if someone dragged me out after 5 months of doing this.

Kurald Galain · Aug 09, 2007, 11:46 AM // 11:46

/signed

I am not goin for the title atm but i do enjoy pre sometimes on my char parked there. I can only imagine how bad someone must feel if this happens to him(her. And since i am level 8 with no secondary yet and the long wait between GW:EN and GW2 i might consider goin for the title and i would hate to see my efforts beein ruined by someone who thinks its funny to do that.

Easiest solutions to this would be to make it (as stated by various posters before) so you can only leave Pre solo or to make it so everyone has to accept the mission if you are grouped.

DreamCatcher · Aug 09, 2007, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Even though the initiater of this thread (Dread Pirate) himself in involved with a small group of people being responsible for sending post items back to pre (these items include Elite Tomes...people have flesh golems in pre now) and I myself was random partied by a lvl 1 W/Me standing next to sir tydus once, I'd rather have Anet use their resources to forever put an end to these glitches.

However, theres been one or a few people trying to deliberately send perma pre's to post. This person creates new characters with names that are very similar to the ones used by the more well known people of the pre community, gets mesmer secondary asap with the sole purpose of searing as many perma pre's as he possibly can. This person or persons seeks to do nothing but cause as much damage as he/she possibly can.
Even though this is easilly avoided (check who you party with before actually accepting folks!) I'd rather have not to worry who my level 17 perma pre parties with in Ascalon City so I say:
/Signed

Anet, fix these glitches in pre plz..all of them

tasha · Aug 09, 2007, 03:28 PM // 15:28

/Signed

While I don't have to party with anyone I don't want to in pre because I can dual client and have 2 accounts, I do regularly help people across the wall with my second account while my first is death levelling. The idea that people will no longer accept my help because a few decided that ruining hours of work is funny is a horrible idea (while my first account has only one profession, my second was meant to be a presearing mule/farming character and has taken a secondary).

ShadowbaneX · Aug 09, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29

While reading this I had a few ideas. It mainly deals with the topic at hand, but it also expands into other, related-topics (namely getting LDoA).

The first is a change to the way you leave Pre-Sear. Right now you enter "Ascalon Academy" and that's it, ie, you do that one PvP battle, then mini-mission, then you're off to Post, no going back. However, what if this were changed to a mission? Having that little Charr hunting expidition with Rurik be a mission (complete with it's own location) would make it nearly impossible for someone to drag you out of Presearing for two reasons. You have to complete that mission to move on, if you leave/fail the mission, you'd just return to the mission location. Another way would be to do as they did with the "Final Blow" quest as the entrance to the Ring of Fire mission. Literally when you accept you are sent forward alone, each person has to talk to the NPC seperately to move forward. With these ideas in place, it'd be impossible to drag someone out of Presearing as long as they didn't party in the Mission location and the go afk for long enough for that other person to complete the mission. If this were to happen, this mission would not count towards the Protector of Tyria title though.

Of course, if that were to happen, what would happen to the PvP fight? Well, it could just be gotten rid of, but there's another possibility: add a PvP arena, similar to that of the other low level PvP arenas (ie Post-Ascalon/Shiverpeak/Shing Jea/Sunspear). One change though would be to allow characters of all levels to enter. Granted, it'd probably be a pretty good idea to seperate the levels, ie when you hit "Enter Battle" you'd find yourself facing off against other characters near your level (ie 1-10 and 11-20). This way rather then AFK'ing for hours to death level some beast to finally slaughter it, you could just go PvP against other people near your level to gain XP.

The last idea (and the most unrelated and probably already suggested elsewhere in these forums) would be to make it so that deaths in pre-sear don't count towards the survivor title, much like deaths don't count towards Death Penalty there. It'd actually make it possible to get both LDoA and Survivor.

tmntfreak · Aug 09, 2007, 04:47 PM // 16:47

/Signed

While I am currently safe from this as I do not have a secondary, it also means I will not be able to take one as I have no wish for this Character to ever end up in post searing.