Curse

skanvak · Nov 07, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

((I made a search and only a complain topic got out))

The FFF is not an acceptable way of gainning faction point and it is an obvious exploit of the system. The last time I tried it, it was done with 3 heroes so that people only have to sit and wait.

Why is it an exploit : because the quest is validated before the quest is even taken. Therefore the aim of the quest is NOT really fulfilled. The luxons/Kurzick that should spawn and be wipe out are simply avoid.

As the people don't do the mission technically they are not helping their faction, they are stealing the point. They don't contribute to moving the fontier BUT are the most rewarded for no effort.

How to nerf it : quite simple, the quest should update only after it is taken, theirfore the ennemy will spawn making it harder to run. Finally, a point should be validated only if the ennemy that spawn are killed. This way it would not be possible to run the quest, that is only fair.

If playing the game resume to sit and do something else while people farm for you, the title is meaningless => less willing to play. I mean this is a real problem!

Best regards,

Skanvak
Lord of "La maison des Drakkens"

Edited by Celestial Beaver: Title Clarified

Mr. G · Nov 07, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

so give me the reason why the FFF is a BAD thing and lets try this again

legion_rat · Nov 07, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53

ok wtf is fff?

~the rat~

Mr. G · Nov 07, 2007, 12:55 PM // 12:55

Fast faction farming - if your luxon you wont get it - its a repeatable quest outside of lutgardis

EDIT: huh - it seems Luxons DO have a FFF - http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/FFF

IslandHermet · Nov 07, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

kurz and lux FFF is as old as time. FFF is not a problem if you dont like AB style play FFF is for you if you like AB dont do FFF it is that simple. A good Aber can get the same or more Faction in the same time as the FFF farmer.
and no one really cares about the frontier lines.

Here is the best idea for you (Dont care about FFF it is that simple)

Abedeus · Nov 07, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. G

so give me the reason why the FFF is a BAD thing and lets try this again

Uhm... It's boring... And... With heroes it takes 5-6 minutes!
...Well, if they block themselves or get killed. But it's still boring!

bungusmaximus · Nov 07, 2007, 02:40 PM // 14:40

/notsigned, if they fix the waits in AB it may be a viable option, but else there will be no viable way to either: get 10k to progress in the story or donate 10k to an alliance because they own a town.

If ancestral is on and you have to accumulate 10k for your alliance you will be VERY disappointed when AB is the only way to get it.

skanvak · Nov 07, 2007, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Getting 10K form AB is very faisable, especially when the fontier is on the opposite faction territory.

Difficulty is part of the game. The point : I don't understant why it should be the one doing the easy way that get the reward and not the one accepting the difficulty. Finally, the people who are doing FFF expect the point without effort. I point that it is not acceptable and kill all the fun for people wanting a somewhat challenging game.

And I agree with Abedeus, it is boring.

PureEvilYak · Nov 07, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

I understand that FFF is an incredibly easy and dull way to get faction. But by setting Savior of {Allegiance} they've backed themselves into a hole. Take away FFF, and Savior is incredibly difficult, vastly long, and intensely boring (by the end) to get. Keep FFF, they mean anyone not going for max rank can take the easy way out. Yeah, it sucks, and I see your point, but theres nothing that Anet can do about it without annoying some segment of the playerbase.

greenreaper3 · Nov 07, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Uhm... It's boring... And... With heroes it takes 5-6 minutes!
...Well, if they block themselves or get killed. But it's still boring!

its boring NERF IT

just dont do it...

PS

/notsigned

Croco Clouds · Nov 07, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12

/notsigned not matter what

sorry I haven't read the first post due to the numerous spelling mistakes

Red Sonya · Nov 07, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

/signed I agree nerf these easy exploits to get easy faction. Make players complete the WHOLE quest before they get the rewards. Require killing something or many things. That'll fix em.

Sergeant of Marines · Nov 07, 2007, 11:56 PM // 23:56

NOT an exploit

/notsigned

ANET has known about it for a long while now, and said nothing about it being an exploit!

Ohhh and Abedeus: it takes 50 seconds to do one run...5 mins is a bit long and exagerated greatly.

HawkofStorms · Nov 08, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01

/notsigned

You are what... 1 and a half years too late?

Spazzer · Nov 08, 2007, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Fixing it now would pretty much benefit the people who maxed out their Kurzick before hand.

Luxon's the title to go if you want to be cool.

JeniM · Nov 08, 2007, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spazzer

Fixing it now would pretty much benefit the people who maxed out their Kurick before hand.

Luxon's the title to go if you want to be cool.

hmmm wonder why OP wants it nerfed, my guess is they have max title
/notsigned

Lurid · Nov 08, 2007, 12:14 AM // 00:14

/notsigned

Theres no reason to nerf it. If you're going to nerf it, you might aswell nerf the luxon variant (albeit considerably slower).

DarkGanni · Nov 08, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

/notsigned

Someone wants to ruin someone's fun again.

Diddy bow · Nov 08, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Nerfing this now would be simmilar to what loot scaling did, screw over those who havnt done it yet and have no effect on those who already have the maxed title.

/notsigned for this reason.

Gattocheese · Nov 08, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

/notsigned

Anet knows about it and is ok with it. Plus if you think it is boring or stupid you dont have to do it!