Dec 11, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35
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#21
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Guild: Zero Mercy
Profession: Mo/
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I think I've heard maybe a few religious guilds recruiting before, and maybe a couple more arguments in local chat. It's not that big of a deal.
I'm fine with these guilds recruiting. I'm fine with character names like "Jesus love u" or whatever they chant. I'm even ok with the whole "Find Christ or go to hell!" thing in local chat. I get enough of that stuffed down my throat in real life, so it doesn't really bother me when some fanatic on an MMORPG starts yelling it at me. Some people really need to learn to ignore things....
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Dec 11, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14
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#22
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tualatin OR
Guild: N/A
Profession: A/W
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/not signed.
Sure it's spam an annoying, but if I don't want a jewish guy or a black guy or a mexican or a white guy or whoever in my guild, and want to single them out, why can't I? It's not a workplace, so it's not against the law to discriminate them from joining the guild.
Now, I myself don't care if you have an ass growing on your arm, but people have their beliefs and want to keep it to themselves.
If they were saying "Jesus is our savior and F*** muslims", then I'd have a problem, but if they are simply recruiting christians, muslims, jews, or whatever and no one else, let them!
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Dec 11, 2007, 04:19 AM // 04:19
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#23
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: Why Do You Ask?
Profession: Mo/W
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"If they were saying "Jesus is our savior and F*** muslims", !"
made me lol for some reason
jihad gw style?
Last edited by Negligate; Dec 11, 2007 at 04:35 AM // 04:35..
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Dec 11, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20
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#24
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: R/
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/not signed as long as any group that has any affiliation can also do it, no matter how much it may be hated in the real world.
/signed if that does not apply.
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Dec 11, 2007, 04:26 AM // 04:26
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#25
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets
Guild: None
Profession: R/D
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/notsigned
Forbidding religious play/promotion is flirting with disaster. I don't like them either, but can you imagine the negative-publicity crapstorm this would produce? Anything becomes 100 times more controversial and damaging when religion is inserted into the equation.
Just let the deluded little biblethumpers have their tiny soapboxes, and ignore them.
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Dec 11, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37
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#26
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: Astral Revenants
Profession: P/W
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Internet Evangelism. Who knew?
Just ignore them unless they start spouting nonsense and abuse at people.
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Dec 11, 2007, 05:25 AM // 05:25
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#27
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Austin, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
lol, i ask them if a non-Christian can join, and got no answer... i thought god loves everyone....
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Well you were wrong. Dead wrong!
/shameless+1
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Dec 11, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28
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#28
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Wolf of Shadows [WoS]
Profession: P/
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I believe a.net could be sued if they banned everyone who was making guilds for xxxxx religion. Because it'd be basically banning anyone for that religious belief. So odds are they won't do anything. We don't need a virtual holocaust.
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Dec 11, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04
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#29
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Right here
Guild: Ende
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For all those who say its your right to say whatever you want to whoever you want... go into a police station and start insulting and harrassing the police there... see how fast your precious freedom of speech is limited.
Its absolutely no different ingame. You have freedom of speech as much as you want, as long as you dont insult or harrass people.
And to the OP.
/signed for the spaming of religious beliefs, because that should be kept to R/L or private guild/alliance chat if it is tollerated there and the purose of the guild/alliance.
/notsigned for the "<insert religion> guild recruiting, please only <insert religion> apply" or so. Thats the whole point of guilds and groups, thats where true freedom of speech cuts in. And deffinitley no restriction as to which religion should be allowed to form a guild.
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00
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#30
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK]
Profession: E/A
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Spamming is spamming.
Slander is slander.
Anything else is just fine. Folks should be free to make whatever guilds and recruit however they'd like as long as they don't spam or slander.
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14
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#31
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: N/Mo
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I've been caught up in a couple religious debates, entertaining but generally gives a bad view on your opposite view. Gets too personal. So yeah... I don't like having stuff shoved down my throat, and it doesn't matter who you are and what thing you're shoving. Open your minds a bit .
I don't mind belief-based guilds though. First of all, a guild needs something in common to stick together, may it be an all-necro guild, or an all-Christian guild, or a PvP-only guild. However, I wouldn't see an anti-Christian guild recruiting. I guess as long as you don't offend, or create in the intention to offend other people... everything goes.
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34
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#32
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: behind you
Guild: bumble bee
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blakecraw
Well you were wrong. Dead wrong!
/shameless+1
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Please elaborate?
The Christian guild not want to answer my question is their right to do so, which if they had answered yes, I would have join, because i was thinking that I don't have to use a swearing filter in the guild chat anymore. but sadly they did not answer. I consequently joined some other guild, I DID NOT HAVE A GUILD AT THAT TIME, see... I really did want to join them. but hey, they did not want to have none-Christian in their guild and it is up to them, their choice and their lost, I give guildies lots of materials and greens and lets just say when ever my storage is full I give stuffs away I also help guildies do so mission all the time, its their lost.
God loving every one is my point of view, so what is the wrong in that?
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42
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#33
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oregon, USA.
Guild: Zero Mercy [zm]
Profession: W/
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/signed
I'm tired of it. It should be against the rules. I'm tired of conservatives going it's okay to say "I LOVE JESUS" but it's wrong if you say "I HATE JESUS."
My Dervish is named Atheist Dervish for the reasons of not believe in the "Gods of Guild Wars." However, I'm afraid he'll get banned. Christians will attack me for his name. It's annoying.
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49
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#34
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Desert Nomad
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Spamming sucks, but people can recruit whoever they want as far as I'm concerned. I'd just as soon know that the guild I was considering joining was populated by the kind of Christian that feels the need to broadcast that he's a Christian every five minutes... so I can find a different one to join.
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:52 AM // 07:52
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#35
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oregon, USA.
Guild: Zero Mercy [zm]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
I'd just as soon know that the guild I was considering joining was populated by the kind of Christian that feels the need to broadcast that he's a Christian every five minutes... so I can find a different one to join.
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Made me chuckle.
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:53 AM // 07:53
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#36
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets
Guild: None
Profession: R/D
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Wonder if these biblethumper guilds have any Necros in their ranks?
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Dec 11, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58
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#37
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oregon, USA.
Guild: Zero Mercy [zm]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OI-812
Wonder if these biblethumper guilds have any Necros in their ranks?
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You know, I had a friend of mine who played Guild Wars once. Then, she said God came to her in her dreams and told her Guild Wars was against him. So, she quit. All her work, she left.
Last edited by Lady Raenef; Dec 11, 2007 at 08:00 AM // 08:00..
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Dec 11, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01
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#38
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets
Guild: None
Profession: R/D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Raenef
You know, I had a friend of mine who played Guild Wars once. Then, she said God came to her in her dreams and told me Guild Wars was against him. So, she quit. All her work, she left.
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God claims another victim...
No offense Raenef, and I realize I may be making a statement of the obvious here, but... your friend is bat-spit crazy.
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Dec 11, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57
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#39
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Desert Nomad
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This is kind of ridiculous. Guilds can recruit however they want, saying whatever they want unless it is slanderous (wouldn't it be libel since it is written and not actually spoken). So Christian guild recruiting bla bla bla Jesus loves you is fine. don't like it, go to a different district/turn off all chat. If it was Christian guild recruiting bla bla bla Muslims go burn in hell, then there would and should be problems.
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Dec 11, 2007, 08:58 AM // 08:58
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#40
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: GWAR
Profession: Me/Mo
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I would never join a guild just because they were claiming they were Christian, I am a Christian but I dont feel then need to run around a computer game looking for converts.
Just as many of the countries in the world that call themselves democratic are nothing of the sort, many "Christian" groups are anything but Christian in their dealings.
Best way to find a guild is to play with a few of their membership for a while before joining.
Thankfully I havn't come accross any of these groups as yet, I am hoping thay are all on the American server and wont get to the European one for some time yet.
Must have a word with some of my Pagan friends, and see if they are starting a multi pantheonic religeous guild.
No politicians though, we must have some standards
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