Curse

anonymous · Dec 24, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32

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Originally Posted by I Phoenix I

I'm not a fan of anything that can affect allies negatively, really.

/notsigned

Moar Unyielding Aura please.

On topic, skills that allow you to hurt team mates are bad, and even if it was self target the 30 second recharge would make it garbage. You would get much better healing out of heal party and natural energy regen. 4 energy every 3 seconds allows for 2 heal partys and almost another in the same recharge of your skill but is more available and doesn't need a life sac. And besides, blood magic is garbage, instead of bringing a necro and speccing blood you could just bring another monk.

genofreek · Dec 24, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53

This skill would be so FREAKING great if it weren't for the necro sociopaths who'd sacrifice the whole team out of ignorance or spite. I love this idea, I really do. But /notsigned because the potential for abuse is unbelievable.

legion_rat · Dec 24, 2007, 01:55 PM // 13:55

I agree with the potential for abuse but from what I have read on this forum who PUGs anyway? Also they way I wanted to set it up is you can use it on pets or minions. making it more useful. Spike you golem, heal the party, raise a golem.

~the rat~

Sli Ander · Dec 24, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Interesting, though as you said the chance of abuse is evident. My first thought when I saw it was that it would be simple to drag a pet along and basically use the pet's health as the source of health for the infusion, thereby having an expendable health source without hurting your allies.

Depending on how much this is 'nerfed' to handle abuse possibilities,however, how much use would it end up being when it would probably end up being easier to simply bring a straight heal?

But that's just my two cents

mystical nessAL · Dec 24, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

lol u cant force an ally to lose health :OOO

GrimEye · Dec 24, 2007, 05:43 PM // 17:43

A Monk with secondary Necro would love this skill: if an annoying melee keep rushing ahead, over extending, the Monk can just LtS that melee to serve some purpose. Rez, LtS, rez, LtS, etc.

A. Noid · Dec 24, 2007, 07:07 PM // 19:07

It's an interesting concept, for sure.

Targets could range from pets, spirits, self, npc's, minions, teamates, etc.
It really adds a twist to strategy. Off the top of my head, how nice would this skill have accompanied the old Ranger skill Otyugh's Cry ( if memory serves, this used to allign all local animals to you)?
Minion bombing just got easier.

I don't think in an MMO this would be a good idea. Fun as all get out but not a mechanic you want to see in an MMO.

Perhaps if they added the caveat of NPC's only.
I like the idea, just not the enviornment.

-ANoid

shoogi · Dec 24, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

skills that have a negative effect on a single ally while having a positive effect on the other allies can be an interesting concept but this gonna become a joke in RA, and all sorts of pve.

btw, if this will be castable on pets or random npcs it will be the greatest overpower ever.

genofreek · Dec 24, 2007, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by A. Noid

Perhaps if they added the caveat of NPC's only.

Still /notsigned; you'll get the sociopaths who will LtS the baby turtles or something right at the end of Gyala Hatchery. :P

It's still open to abuse if you can harm anything but yourself. Minions? You cripple the MM. Spirits? You could be screwing with the rit's other abilities, like the condition removal of Mend Body And Soul. Pets? Ranger shutdown. And there are already some sacrifice skills, so...

Biostem · Dec 24, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by legion_rat

I agree with the potential for abuse but from what I have read on this forum who PUGs anyway? Also they way I wanted to set it up is you can use it on pets or minions. making it more useful. Spike you golem, heal the party, raise a golem.

~the rat~

Um.. no.

There should never be a way for you to purposely and intentionally kill a teammate. That's just begging to be abused. Hello griefers! This is the skill for you!

Your comment about "who uses PUGs" is irrelevant - some people *do* use PUGs, and ANet would never do something to make that experience worse than it is.

I could see something like this being usable on your undead minions or your pet, but not other teammates. Oh, and guess what - in your little example about Livia bleeding Koss a little - he'd probably pound them into the ground for doing that, so again, no.

In fact, the way the game portrays necros seems to imply that they have no regard for their own lives - there isn't any precedent for them not caring about their other teammates... they have no qualms about bleeding themselves or sacrificing health.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Dec 24, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by genofreek

Still /notsigned; you'll get the sociopaths who will LtS the baby turtles or something right at the end of Gyala Hatchery. :P

Damn there goes my idea for messing with people

Running Gyala Hatchery 8k pay before end. Right after they all pay. Kill the babey turtles<_<>_>

Then make some tastey soup.

/notsigned

The skill has way too many evil intentions with it.

Solus Spartan · Dec 24, 2007, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Yay now I Can kill my allies.

/notsigned

You can't see me · Dec 25, 2007, 12:15 AM // 00:15

The Abuse level this would cause is far more than it would help.

/Unsigned.

Kanyatta · Dec 25, 2007, 05:04 AM // 05:04

just imagine you're a warrior in a pve pug, and your like "oh my god, that was close, that mob almost killed me, i only have 100 out of my 600 hp left" and then your idiotic nec on the team is just like *LAMBS TO THE SLAUGHTER!!* "haha! you're dead n00bz0r"

Sir Pandra Pierva · Dec 25, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

just imagine you're a warrior in a pve pug, and your like "oh my god, that was close, that mob almost killed me, i only have 100 out of my 600 hp left" and then your idiotic nec on the team is just like *LAMBS TO THE SLAUGHTER!!* "haha! you're dead n00bz0r"

Sadly I would be that nec........only if you were an idiot wammo

ThienThan · Dec 25, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Uhmm sorry but it is really too powerful lol

Think about this build.

Using Dark Aura? LMAO. There's a reason why you can not hex yourself or ally or sac other ally! lol

Plus there wont be another campaign coming out. Why bother about new skill now?

~ Dan ~ · Dec 25, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05

/signed

I need a way to kill W/Mo's in my AB teams. Although to be fair, they do die pretty well by themselves.

silv3rr · Dec 26, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by sickle of carnage

So you could just kill people on your team by sacrificing them

Oh I would love to kill them new players that decide to make a 55 monk then further decide that that's the best build to run through an entire campaign while PUGing...

/signed for evil reasons

thedeadlyassassin · Dec 26, 2007, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by sickle of carnage

So you could just kill people on your team by sacrificing them

Exactly, this would be way abused, and it'd be overpowered if used properly. People would sacrifice allys in RA

jayce · Dec 26, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38

if target ally is above 50% health etc......

Jayce Of Underworld