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Halc yon · Jan 08, 2008, 05:22 AM // 05:22

The guild system in *Guild* Wars doesn't really do much.

I think it should considering that the game is called Guild Wars.

If I had the money and the know how, this would be the game I would create.

It would be a persistent world. Think of it as a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Strategy Game.

Please let me know what you think. Would anyone here try a game like this?

Each player is given the opportunity to create or join a guild.

When creating a guild you will select what type of government you want in your guild
Types of guilds:
Type A - Members vote for policies
Type B1 - Members vote for leader > Leader selects policies
Type B2 - Members vote for leader > Leader selects officers > Officers select policies
Type C1 - Members vote for officers > Officers vote for policies
Tyep C2 - Members vote for officers > Officers vote for leader > Leader selects policies

You will also be able to establish headquarters anywhere possible in the persistent world once they have met all requirements. In your headquarters there will be a number of NPCs. The number of NPCs will grow depending on how big your guild becomes.

Requirements for establishing headquarters.
------------Atleast a certain amount of members
------------Gold and Resources

In a Type B/C2 government, the leader selects where the headquarters will be established.
In a Type A government, members vote for a designated member to select the location of headquarters.
In a Type C1 government, officers vote for a designated officer to select the location of headquarters.

Policies Available
Resources - Determine which resources are more important for your guild. NPC members of your guild will gather those resources.
------------Gold - Maintaining a higher flow of gold in your guild bank allows for more room for more members. If your members exceed the cap, you must either find a way to get more gold or kick some members. Unless you are happy with a negative flowing economy. Extra gold may also be spread among all members to use personally if decided by the government. Or the extra gold may be used to create buildings with certain advantages.
------------Other resources - Resources flowing in your guild will allow crafters in your guild to craft certain items or weapons. They may be spread among members to use personally or they may be used to build buildings with certain advantages.

Construction - Determine what buildings NPCs in your guild will build.

Jobs - Determine what percentage of NPCs will do what jobs.
------------Military - Defending headquarters and supply lines.
------------Construction - Constructing buildings.
------------Mining - Gather resources.

Relations - Determine whether other guilds are allies or enemies.
------------Trading gold and resources.

Research Bonus - Determine what bonus your guild members and NPCs will recieve.
------------Defense bonus
------------Attack bonus
------------etc.

The job of a leader or officer is to guide the guild to success using policies and also providing members and NPCs with the right kind of resources.
Members will either protect their NPCs and buildings or attack those of their enemies.

This is just a draft that I thought up. Let me know what you think.

Pleikki · Jan 08, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

mm That would be nice in same game but not in gw :S

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 08, 2008, 05:28 AM // 05:28

no sorry, not in gw

Halc yon · Jan 08, 2008, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Ok, so it wouldn't work in guild wars.

What if it was like a shoot off of guild wars?
Or just a different game. Would you give it a try?

the kurzick eater · Jan 08, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59

those are some good ideas, i think it would be hard to put on paper... but if you could get that into a game id check it out ^^

Sirius-NZ · Jan 08, 2008, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Sardelac Sanitarium!

On the other hand, note that many/most guilds have something "backing them up" - e.g. they might already do some/most of this. Guilds often tend to be autocratic, too...

Kynareth Adeus · Jan 08, 2008, 06:32 AM // 06:32

Maybe for Guild Wars 2, this could be cool.

Also, as Sirius was saying, most guilds would go like this:

Type D-Leader makes guild>People join>Leader appoints officers>Leader makes policies, officers enforce them in leader's absence.

Vitas · Jan 08, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38

I like it!

I enjoy GW and, at least for myself, it could be better with your ideas. As someone said, many guilds already have structure.

Gold, resources, crafting and etc.:

In the 'first among equals'/commune-minded collective of GW, you are commiting a crime by suggesting a system where an individual or team could, through ambition, dedication and [*gasp*] capitalism, achieve a quantifiable or material edge in the game over any other individual or team.

It's horrific for many to even consider that someone might have a better weapon or better armor or better skill or better build or better (fill-in-the-blank) than themselves.

Unfortunately, in the eyes of many, the fact that GW is a graphically-advanced, subscription-free and unrivaled-in-it's-quality-&-model MMO is apparently not enough to set it apart from the rest of the gaming world.

Meaningless skins and dyes are fine as long as they don't reward the acquirer with any advantage above any other. Cleverness, insight, creativity and ingenuity must be nerfed! [OOPS, I mean "balanced."] LOL

Yes, I like GW and it has it's place... but it's rather mediocre and bland without your ideas don't you think?

I doubt that you will find many here who appreciate your ideas.

-V

Lagg · Jan 08, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Sardelacced.

And it's definitely not the scope of GW.

Akaraxle · Jan 08, 2008, 08:45 AM // 08:45

Who the **** cares about government and hierarchy in GW? Only scrubs actually care and brag about being officers in a guild.

Holly Herro · Jan 08, 2008, 08:56 AM // 08:56

This is a good idea imo

This could be something implemented into GW2 as a kind of side off thing like the EotN boxing etc

ChyldeOfTheLotus · Jan 08, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

I agree that the guild system in quite underwhelming, but that's pretty much the only thing I agree with you on. I'd settle for more guild related pvp match styles like guild vs guild alliance battles or something.

Yang Whirlwind · Jan 08, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22

No a great lover of all the "lets-vote-on-everything"!
If people don't like the leader they can just find another guild! It's like in RL - you don't choose your boss,- but you're free to find another job if he's a git.

Kissable Krissy · Jan 08, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

Considering I've been in guilds where the average age was 14 and the IQ the same, I really don't see how all the guild politics would work. In a guild I was the guild leader of, we established the policy that once a guild member passed certain requirements, they would automatically become a guild officer and you can't imagine how many felt it was unfair and that they should be treated different and be allowed to be an officer before they fulfilled the requirements.

Just play the game and if you don't like your guild, then find a new one.

Personally, I think there should be more guild v guild interaction, but I don't think we need to have a whole political system for guild wars.

6am3 Fana71c · Jan 08, 2008, 01:50 PM // 13:50

No need to be so complicating. Current system works perfect tbh, only thing we need is guild storage, so we can depost items for guildies (like someone suggested ages ago). And ofc this topic should be ---> to Sardelac

Ec]-[oMaN · Jan 08, 2008, 02:18 PM // 14:18

This sounds like any RTS game ie Starcraft, resources, buildings, attack/defend heeh

truemyths · Jan 08, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

What would be cool is if was a guild bank, which people were able to store their money in. Then deposits accrued interest that went to the guild.

A simple message whenever there was a withdrawal would let the guild know when funds were being used.

cebalrai · Jan 08, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

I agree with the OP's sentiment that *much* more could be done with guilds in this game. Right now, they're not really much more than an online chatroom. Which is sad.

Arkantos · Jan 08, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

no sorry, not in gw

I agree with this.

Although more could be done with guilds, but I doubt there will be any changes to guilds in GW1.

Quote:

I agree with the OP's sentiment that *much* more could be done with guilds in this game. Right now, they're not really much more than an online chatroom. Which is sad.

It really depends on what guild you're in. If you're a PvPer, you're going to want to be in a guild unless you want to ask your friends list to see who's PvPing. If you're into high-end PvE, you're going to want to be in a guild with good players so you don't have to pug with bad players and run bad gimmick builds. If anything, I'd say overall GW is used as an online chatroom atm, which is sad.

warcrap · Jan 08, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

i recently left my guild the game is easier without it and its completely pointless to collect factions you just have them laying around for no reason basically.
i hope guild wars 2 will have a more distinct guild feature.