Curse

Rachel Crow · Dec 24, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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Originally Posted by SleetDragon

1. If you were refering to me, I believe everything you said is, ignorant. I never said GW shouldnt change anything, I'm saying that this title hasn't been adjusted in the last 2 years and I do not believe Anet is going to change it anyway. And I have never earned the title LS on any character and proud of the fact.
2.Again ignorance, I never said we should undo everything because its fair I'm saying this title raises more controversy to people that have already accomplished it in the original intent Anet put in place. If Anet wants to change it then a new forum is gonna pop up in reverse "Should older characters be allowed to get LS" because no not everyone agrees to change LS. And I personally don't care how old your character is, you missed the chance for the title go cry yourself to sleep and move on.

I agree that is the point there is imbalance, but you should look at it this way I missed out on one title maybe... I should try for something I can still get. The whole point of this title was that if you failed up until this point you could not recieve the title.
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Just so oh by the way it takes 30 titles to reach maximum tier on the "Kind of a Big Deal" title track. There are currently 42 obtainable titles. Pick one of the other 12 and quit whining.

Wasn't talking about you but ty for the "ignorance" flame I mean intelligent tip.

(he's happy)

I'm just posting again to hopefully bring people down from talking about nazi's all the way to calling people ignorant out of the blue, so...

Can we vote for this already or not? We obviously have majority that want it seeing as the older players are usually smarter then the newer players.

Randvek · Dec 24, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

I kinda like the idea of making a separate "survivor"-ish title for those who failed it.

SleetDragon · Dec 24, 2007, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by Rachel Crow

Wasn't talking about you but ty for the "ignorance" flame I mean intelligent tip.

(he's happy)

I'm just posting again to hopefully bring people down from talking about nazi's all the way to calling people ignorant out of the blue, so...

Can we vote for this already or not? We obviously have majority that want it seeing as the older players are usually smarter then the newer players.

Well I do apologize, that being said being called ignorant is a big diffrence than being called a nazi, and no we don't have a majority on either side. And newer characters matter just as much as older ones, its not your right to dictate who's vote counts more.

StelardActek · Dec 24, 2007, 06:02 AM // 06:02

New characters stand to benefit from this change too, though, since they too could reset their progress towards the title instead of creating a whole new character (for a fee equivalent to the cost of setting up a new character).

TaCktiX · Dec 24, 2007, 06:11 AM // 06:11

Yeah, the point's been made countless times before that this helps EVERYBODY, and nobody's really screwed out of anything except idiots on ego-trips for having gone to extreme lengths to get their LS being unable to brag as hard.

Isileth · Dec 24, 2007, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by Randvek

I kinda like the idea of making a separate "survivor"-ish title for those who failed it.

The point is pre title chars havent failed it. They cant even go for it.

Lady Raenef · Dec 24, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

This idea can't be implimented squarely on the fact that your characters can simply go to certain areas that a newly made character can't. For example, my friend spent the time and effort getting to the area to FFF Kurzick faction for rank 3 Survivor. Now, if they enabled this, I would just do the same thing until I get the title....and it'd be easier for me, because I'd just go warp to the outpost and begin.

In conclusion...NO.

TaCktiX · Dec 24, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

And how many "90% of the way" arguments need to be posted before all the pithy "but you can't do that at Level 1!" excuses go away? Legendary Survivor is nearly 10 times more experience than Survivor, and by the time you get to Level 20, you can pretty much get anywhere you want to. Survivor is such a cheap title with Tomes and such, it's not even funny (and I say this with a Survivor Rit who had zero tomes and zero maxed weapons/armor until after Level 20).

Mitchel · Dec 24, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

I know that I probably didn't sign this, but after reading some posts I'll give this a /signed.

Rachel Crow · Dec 24, 2007, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by SleetDragon

Well I do apologize, that being said being called ignorant is a big diffrence than being called a nazi, and no we don't have a majority on either side. And newer characters matter just as much as older ones, its not your right to dictate who's vote counts more.

I wonder about him sometimes...lol. I don't feel like picking out why he's wrong in this one and probably a few next ones but..aw heck it's guru and it's expected.

1. "...that being said being called ignorant is a big diffrence than being called a nazi..."

Really? They are different? being called orange is a big -diffrence- than being called chair.

Nobody called anybody a Nazi, I said they were talking about Nazi's lol

2."...and no we don't have a majority on either side."

Want to count the /signed over the /unsigned yet? You could argue not everybody is online guru who may vote against, but in the same breath not everybody is online to vote for, and I know a couple guilds full of people who would enjoy having an opporunity to get LS on their older characters who never had a chance. (they usually dont bother with forum flames...I got sucked in somehow...

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3. "...And newer characters matter just as much as older ones,..."

Relation? Who said anything about that lol. I said they usually aren't as smart since they are new. But hey if you know somebody who joined GW in the last couple months who magically knew everything...give me their name so I can give them some free gold.

4. "...its not your right to dictate who's vote counts more."

Maybe you don't know how voting works, so let me explain to you. Everybody has 1 vote, and they can choose what to vote for. Should Rachel vote for 1 /signed that doesn't magically make her vote count more then somebody elses vote. That's the reason why governments have voting, because it keeps things equal.

Now I don't know how you thought voting works, but I never said anything about how to dictate whos vote "counts more" then others

I'm now going to perma-ignore this thread because people like Sleet Dragon literally gave Guru-Flameing the reputation it has. Good ideas are good ideas, this is one of them. Maybe if it was just a giant poll it would be better not to have others contribute their opinnions.

Sleet Dragon, you made me flame you because you are so easy, you did get the apology right atleast for flaming me earlier about nothing, feel free to frenzy all over my post now and throw in some nazi's or whatever lol.

/signed - There's my vote again incase people wonder which they shouldn't.

XiaoTheBlade · Dec 24, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

RotteN · Dec 24, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

I wouldn't mind getting a chance at Legendary Survivor on my favourite (prophecies) character.

I don't see how anyone could claim it "cheapens the title" and "it's going to be so easy now".

NEWSFLASH : it's PvE, it will always be easy.
And cheapening a title ? Come on, thousands upon thousands of players already have it. How much "cheaper" can it get ? I assume you all forgot about the scrimmage exploit that gave you LS in a day of AFK farming ? We're talking about getting all the XP, without dieing, in a legit way. No matter how you twist or turn that, that's still a good way to earn a title...

MithranArkanere · Dec 24, 2007, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Yeah. Even with the Fronis Dungeon trcik ,you may already die.

It do nopt grant the title, it just allow to re-take it.

SleetDragon · Dec 24, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Rachel Crow

I wonder about him sometimes...lol. I don't feel like picking out why he's wrong in this one and probably a few next ones but..aw heck it's guru and it's expected.

1. "...that being said being called ignorant is a big diffrence than being called a nazi..."

Really? They are different? being called orange is a big -diffrence- than being called chair.

Nobody called anybody a Nazi, I said they were talking about Nazi's lol

2."...and no we don't have a majority on either side."

Want to count the /signed over the /unsigned yet? You could argue not everybody is online guru who may vote against, but in the same breath not everybody is online to vote for, and I know a couple guilds full of people who would enjoy having an opporunity to get LS on their older characters who never had a chance. (they usually dont bother with forum flames...I got sucked in somehow...

)

3. "...And newer characters matter just as much as older ones,..."

Relation? Who said anything about that lol. I said they usually aren't as smart since they are new. But hey if you know somebody who joined GW in the last couple months who magically knew everything...give me their name so I can give them some free gold.

4. "...its not your right to dictate who's vote counts more."

Maybe you don't know how voting works, so let me explain to you. Everybody has 1 vote, and they can choose what to vote for. Should Rachel vote for 1 /signed that doesn't magically make her vote count more then somebody elses vote. That's the reason why governments have voting, because it keeps things equal.

Now I don't know how you thought voting works, but I never said anything about how to dictate whos vote "counts more" then others

I'm now going to perma-ignore this thread because people like Sleet Dragon literally gave Guru-Flameing the reputation it has. Good ideas are good ideas, this is one of them. Maybe if it was just a giant poll it would be better not to have others contribute their opinnions.

Sleet Dragon, you made me flame you because you are so easy, you did get the apology right atleast for flaming me earlier about nothing, feel free to frenzy all over my post now and throw in some nazi's or whatever lol.

/signed - There's my vote again incase people wonder which they shouldn't.

Ok Just two questions: What Flaming? What are you talking about?
Calling someone ignorant is not flaming if I were to call you some other rude names which I never have and never will on guru then I could see why you would think that, but I never called anyone stupid, or idoits I've just been disagreeing, perhaps I was right when I first said before you are as ignorant as I was for originally calling you ignorant. I fail to see how I have really necesarily flamed any one in particular, ignorant isn't being stupid its just reading over something and failing to see something before, just as I did when I wrote the previous comments. If this is what gave guru its flaming policy all I can say is *GASP*. As far as the newer characters comments go it still stands they have as much right to comment on what they think I don't care how new they are if they're smart enough to log in and figure out what we're talking about perhaps they aren't so new. And thank you I now know how to vote thanks to you... Perhaps if you were more specific with your comments we wouldn't have to guess what you are saying, I dunno you confused me from the bggining. This forum is growing on my nerves and I am going to perma ignore aswell. So as far as it goes and aslong as Guild Wars is still making updates.
/Not Signed Permanently-In case you forgot...

Jay Em · Dec 24, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

/signed

I would love to get this title for my main character but since I can't, I made ritualist week ago and got LS for him. It just doesn't feel the same..
Also I won't even think about deleting my main char since he has 25 maxed titles and a lot of customized items that cost too much for me to buy again.

I like the idea of a fee to pay to try to get this title, it could be something like 100k+20e and I would pay it, it would still be cheaper than maxed sweet tooth...

Melody Cross · Dec 24, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

/signed as usual.

Anything that can be done to make the LS title track on old characters is a good thing in my book. Its not that the title is so very hard to get (with Nightfall Heroes, its darn easy). Others were. Items customized to characters were.

IAL · Dec 24, 2007, 11:58 PM // 23:58

/Signed .

RotteN · Dec 26, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

still think this probably one of the best idea's in this forum (together with the armor system post).

let's hope the devs notice it on day

TaCktiX · Dec 26, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

While the armor system post is more than likely more work than ANet's willing to pour into GW1 with full-steam development in GW2 being what it is now (I wouldn't be surprised if that came AFTER GW2 is finished, as a final "thanks" to the faithful), this Survivor thing won't be that hard to put in. Skin some random NPC (Durmand wasn't anything original, nor were any of the book traders), stick him in the major cities, put a fee on it. Then on the data side, separate experience from progress on the Survivor track, though initialize them the same when a new character is created. Then have the NPC reset the Survivor xp while not changing the character's xp.

RotteN · Dec 26, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

while i don't realy have any experience with game programming, i indeed don't think i'd be hard to implent. And it'd be a welcome addition.