Curse

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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The game changes, older characters can't always have everything.

Day Trooper · Dec 14, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

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The game changes, older characters can't always have everything.

Why not?? You yourself just said 'The game changes.'

So - the game can be changed to allow older chars a crack at Survivor!

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by Day Trooper

Why not?? You yourself just said 'The game changes.'

So - the game can be changed to allow older chars a crack at Survivor!

Let's use War-time examples!

Imagine A-net is the all-mighty creators of the A-Bomb, the USA.
Germany, Nazi Germany is complaining about the fact they used they atomic theory first, yet America "released" the bomb onto Japan, thust updating the world as we know it. Because Nazi Germany first tried to construct the bomb & failed means America should give it to them? NO. Germany failed to create the bomb, because it didn't exist.

Sorry Adolf, you missed out.

I was taking a break from GW's when the BMP offer was up, does that mean I should receive it? I have purchased guildwars products online meeting the $ requirements before, shouldn't I receive the BMP as well? NO. I did not meet the requirement of the allocated time period.

Sorry Solus, you missed out.

Older characters will not get the title, because it didn't exist.

Sorry Old-Timers, you missed out.

Isileth · Dec 14, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01

The difference is Solous, this is GW. A game.

Currently there is a mechanic in place that prevents old chars from being able to achieve a title. Unlike your example, it can be changed.

This mechanic is obviousely stopping people from acomplishing something ingame, and that is obviousely annoying some players.

Its not as if its something that effects anyone else, if these players are allowed to try and achieve the titles no one else is affected.

The only thing the change would do is allow old chars a chance to get the title. No negatives for anyone else.

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 05:07 AM // 05:07

No negatives? There is plenty of negatives. First off we've have 100's of Prophs characters running around ranting about getting the title, and how much effort it required to get it.

I wasn't around for some of the first event items, but I feel I DESERVE IT! Do I get the items? Should I make and post about it and rant/flame all day?

No.

If you missed out, Get over it. It won't change.

Isileth · Dec 14, 2007, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

No negatives? There is plenty of negatives. First off we've have 100's of Prophs characters running around ranting about getting the title, and how much effort it required to get it.

Your suggesting that players dont currently moan already? That can be said of anyone going for the title.

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

I wasn't around for some of the first event items, but I feel I DESERVE IT! Do I get the items? Should I make and post about it and rant/flame all day?

Not being on for an event is very different to owning the game before titles got introduced.

Besides this isnt a rant, this is a suggestion forum where people are suggesting a change so that older chars created before the titles was introduced can try and achieve it.

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

If you missed out, Get over it. It won't change.

Actually it could.

Thats why there are people here suggesting the change. Just because you say it wont happen doesnt mean it wont.

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 05:20 AM // 05:20

When in the passed has something like this been changed?

Ofcourse it can change, but if it did, I except the holiday items, I missed out, Prophs titlers missed out. Shit happens, get over it.

Isileth · Dec 14, 2007, 05:27 AM // 05:27

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

When in the passed has something like this been changed?

Well there have been lots of things that Anet have even come out and said wouldnt happen, then with enough people they changed it. Storage is the main example of that.

Gaile came out and stated there would not be anymore storage added. Yet they did.

This they havent even said no to

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

Ofcourse it can change, but if it did, I except the holiday items, I missed out, Prophs titlers missed out. Shit happens, get over it.

No one has anything to "get over" as I said, this is a suggestion on something people think will improve the game.
This isnt a "Add it or ill quit" thread. Its just a suggestion.

And as I said before, missing a holiday is different.
The holiday is a short term event.

However if you want to start a new thread suggesting you be allowed access to it, go right ahead.

TaCktiX · Dec 14, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

What's wrong with giving experienced players another challenge on their favorite characters? People are complaining all the time that they're running out of content to play with, and they're bored. Unbore them by adding something else they can do: go for Legendary Survivor after they've done most everything out there. I bet you (and I'm in this camp), that I won't change WHAT I'm playing (HM, random dungeons, etc.), only HOW I'm playing it. And what's a better change of pace than to change how you play the game?

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Things that only benefit a minority of players does that benefit the whole. Use your brain and stop asking for self-centered updates.

TaCktiX · Dec 14, 2007, 12:53 PM // 12:53

Adding character longevity is not something that benefits the minority. It benefits every single role-playing character out there. It's far from self-centered to wish for the entire community to be able to have second shots at one of the more difficult titles to put into practice (it's easy to get if you're playing the game correctly, no mistakes).

MithranArkanere · Dec 14, 2007, 12:58 PM // 12:58

Well... it's not difficult, it's just 'impossible'.
Older characters never had a chance, they didn't knew about it.

Knowledge is power. Who tries a title that can't be acquired?

StelardActek · Dec 14, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Well... it's not difficult, it's just 'impossible'.
Older characters never had a chance, they didn't knew about it.

Knowledge is power. Who tries a title that can't be acquired?

I think what TaCktiX was saying is merely that this change, were it implemented, would benefit everyone, not just those who have characters older than Factions. I agree with that and think it's a good thing.

MithranArkanere · Dec 14, 2007, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Of course, it won't be fair just let older characters. All titles but LDoA and Survivor can be tried anytime.

But only survivor is available to all characters, and only in a very limited way.

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Of course, it won't be fair just let older characters. All titles but LDoA and Survivor can be tried anytime.

But only survivor is available to all characters, and only in a very limited way.

O, now how does leaving out LDOA/Survivor titles make it fair? Shouldn't it benefit the whole?

Seems not, back to the minority.

Sorry bud, but if you change one thing, more rants start, as this one did.
People get annoyed they don't get to have everything they want, so they make threads about it. I don't want 98% of the Changes to skills A-net makes, and I doubt many people would. Yet A-net does not change things because I want them, they change things to "balance the game". So Isn't it simply? IF older one-minded characters were given a chance @ survivor title, the whole GuildWars order as we know it would collaspe. Thankgod A-net predicted the outcome and, let's say "changed the future" by not giving the the survivor title to older characters. Good job A-net! *high five*

Let's say a character in prophs did achieve the 1337k experiance required with 0 deaths. Sure, let's give them the title, they planned ahead. Unfornately, for those that did not and are now pissed, you failed to predict the title, you failed to get the title based on the predictions, therefore you don't get the title. When will you people learn.

You don't get second changes at suriving. If you failed to meet the requirements, you don't deserve the title.

Day Trooper · Dec 14, 2007, 03:07 PM // 15:07

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

IF older one-minded characters were given a chance @ survivor title, the whole GuildWars order as we know it would collaspe.

ZOMG. I guess well, yeah, we shouldn't ask for this since it would kill Guild Wars. Ok guys /lock thread immediately!

Well, maybe for Solus it would kill GW

. Hey, that would probably make him in the minority, wouldn't it?

I just don't see why some peeps have such an adamant stance against this.

As I explained earlier, this title has become almost a complete joke now. Not only can you just {F12}{ENTER} yourself out of that near-death, but in addition new chars are given all sorts of extra advantages that make it just that much easier to achieve.

ANet, why should us old-timers not be given a crack at this?

pumpkin pie · Dec 14, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

why hasn't Anet say anything regarding the survivor title for character before factions?

sure would be nice to know where Anet stands regarding this.

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

O, now how does leaving out LDOA/Survivor titles make it fair? Shouldn't it benefit the whole?

Seems not, back to the minority.

Sorry bud, but if you change one thing, more rants start, as this one did.
People get annoyed they don't get to have everything they want, so they make threads about it. I don't want 98% of the Changes to skills A-net makes, and I doubt many people would. Yet A-net does not change things because I want them, they change things to "balance the game". So Isn't it simply? IF older one-minded characters were given a chance @ survivor title, the whole GuildWars order as we know it would collaspe. Thankgod A-net predicted the outcome and, let's say "changed the future" by not giving the the survivor title to older characters. Good job A-net! *high five*

Let's say a character in prophs did achieve the 1337k experiance required with 0 deaths. Sure, let's give them the title, they planned ahead. Unfornately, for those that did not and are now pissed, you failed to predict the title, you failed to get the title based on the predictions, therefore you don't get the title. When will you people learn.

You don't get second changes at suriving. If you failed to meet the requirements, you don't deserve the title.

I am very curious, how is making survivor title available for older characters make the whole Guild Wars Order as we know it collapse? what the hell is a Guild Wars Order? and why is older character "One Minded?" please do elaborate. or that's just YOUR ONE MINDED OPINION?

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Originally Posted by Solus Spartan

No negatives? There is plenty of negatives. First off we've have 100's of Prophs characters running around ranting about getting the title, and how much effort it required to get it.

I wasn't around for some of the first event items, but I feel I DESERVE IT! Do I get the items? Should I make and post about it and rant/flame all day?

No.

If you missed out, Get over it. It won't change.

as a matter of fact some players do rant and whine about events items, ie make hat available, bla bla bla, and they got it, the HAT NPC.

things do change. but if you had not bought the game back then, i don't see any point of you ranting about not getting the event items, unless if you did purchase the game back when the events were and did not get the items ... go ahead, rant, I won't stop you.

The Legg · Dec 14, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59

never going to happen, we all had the choice to remake characters when factions came out in order to get the survivor title. Those that chose not to then that is your choice, live with it.

Day Trooper · Dec 14, 2007, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by Day Trooper

I just don't see why some peeps have such an adamant stance against this.

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Originally Posted by The Legg

never going to happen, we all had the choice to remake characters when factions came out in order to get the survivor title. Those that chose not to then that is your choice, live with it.

This is exactly the type of attitude I was referring to. Why are you so against this?

Oh - and 'never say never'

Especially when it come to Guild Wars!

Mad Punisher · Dec 14, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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good idea