Curse

You can't see me · Feb 12, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by Isileth

Not at all true. Do you honestly think everyone who makes a char after the title was introduced is aware of it?

I think pretty much every new player isnt going to know about it, even older players might not. Take a look at these forums as an example, you quite often see posts asking when something was changed only to get a reply it was 2-3 months ago.

There is no way that you can draw a line and say "From here on everyone is aware of the title.".

No, you can't, but you also cannot say that no one knew about it. I don't believe people should be able to just change their mind on this title.

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Originally Posted by Isileth

Really it is on the same char for the most part. Because the only thing that seperates a char is what its done. Now if you take a new char and restart everytime you fail survivor all you will ever loose is a few hours play. You can then go make the exact same char and do it over and over.

While an older player if they fail will loose more than a few hours play..

Again, an older player that existed and knew about the title should not be able to change their mind. I cannot go back and say I want LDoA.

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Originally Posted by Isileth

As you said its the only title that makes you reroll. Infact its the only thing ingame that makes you reroll.
Going beyond that on the GW box it states there is no lasting penalty for death.

Have you learned nothing about the word of Arenanet and its advertizing? And yes, it is the only thing. I think there should be more things you have to reroll for, instead of everything being "I want this now, so I'll go get it, but then I won't feel like doing it, so I'll just take a break." No, not everything should be like that, but I believe more things should.

MithranArkanere · Feb 12, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

Using your logic, I can rightfully say that Arenanet should refund all the fireworks I destroyed before the PA title. Should they? No. No, not exactly the same thing, but it's the same trail of thought.

No. You can't.

We are talking about being able to retake the title, not give it for free to those that got it before it ever existed.

Yeah, you may have wasted a lot of fireworks before the addition of this title. And you will never recover those.

But you can retake the title ANYTIME. You can get it fully now. Anytime, whenever you intend to.

Can you retake the title? No without re-rolling, and that's a nonsense in GW. GW has been systematically removing the slightest snippets of re-rolling. Quick secondary profession changes, quick PvP item generation, quick template loading, quick attribute changes...

No Re-roll. No refunds. Re-take.

Jetdoc · Feb 12, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by Marverick

With this way it is actually harder to earn the title so there should be no whining from people who got it on their first try about other people getting a second chance. However, it will allow older characters to have that second chance without losing the feel of the title.

I'd be okay with this if it were a completely new title track, something along the lines of "I'm pretty good at not dying".

Again, I don't think that the original survivor track should be compromised, for the many, many reasons that have been stated in other threads.

However, if someone wanted to create an alternative track that doesn't affect the original track, all the power to you.

Jetdoc · Feb 12, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

GW has been systematically removing the slightest snippets of re-rolling.

I'm assuming that you're supporting instituting a time machine where players can go back and obtain Legendary Defender of Ascalon as well, eh?

There's a reason that those two titles catch your eye...it takes immense patience and careful dedication to achieve both of them. Being able to obtain the title after "messing up a few times" inherently cheapens the title, no ifs ands or buts about it.

If you really, really, really, really want the title, you have to make a value call on how much you are willing to sacrifice to get it.

Steps_Descending · Feb 12, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

I wonder how many people creating these threads, actually have a sruvivor R3. Unless you were INCREDIBLY careful AND patient, I'm sure noone would actually get legendary survivor the "legit" way. Simple Pay2Grind, and more then most player will ever have in their (In-game-)poket.