Curse

Cherng Butter · Feb 18, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Imagine you're forming a group for some dungeon, and you realize that you're one short on one class and one too many on another. Or say you've always wanted to try monking, but you've never had the time or motivation to outfit and level up and take through the campaigns a new character.

So I had this random idea the other day and wanted to see what you all thought, don't flame me if it's terrible :P...so we all know that we can make PvP-only characters to do PvP, with max armor and weapons and inscriptions and access to unlocked skills and such.

What if we could do this for PvE?

What if we could create ready-made, level 20 characters to travel to any place in the campaigns you have access to, NM or HM, to do quests and missions and whatnot with your friends?

Obviously there would be restrictions:
-Seems as though most people wouldn't like getting nothing out of it, so I'm not sure what kind of system could be implemented to mirror PvP-only characters...
-Basic skins. No access to flashy weapons and armor, you get the same stuff as PvP characters (and no reward points to eventually get better stuff).

Possible restrictions:
-No PvE-only skills? I'm not sure how you would calculate the titles for these characters, and if you gave them the same rank as the account/best character, might be overpowered for something you just made.

I thought of having skills, runes, inscriptions, mods, etc. available if they were unlocked for the account, but I'm not entirely sure. You can unlock things through regular PvE, but you can also unlock them through Balthazar Faction. Perhaps buying the skills on a separate system with ingame gold? I'd like opinions on this.

I suppose the only point of this is to encourage making groups, making the game a little more fun for people who want to test things and fool around w/o all the work, and helping your friends.

What do you guys think? Please don't flame me if this is a awful idea, I just wanted to throw something out there for discussion...any constructive criticism is welcome!

MithranArkanere · Feb 18, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

I'd rather allow account wide outpost unlock rather than that.

Voltaic Annihilator · Feb 18, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45

what would be the point of this if u have no benefits?

Orange Milk · Feb 18, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherng Butter
So I had this random idea the other day

I suggest you stop doing that, you could end up hurting yourself one day.

/not signed, your idea would completly defeat the reason for EVERYTHING that is involved with creating and leveling a PvE player in this game.

gameshoes3003 · Feb 19, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

As much as I wish I could make any item I wanted, without rewards this is a little down.

NamelessBeauty · Feb 19, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

lol? you are funny! Make a char for absolute nothing? Lol

To be honest, even my best friend, I would not help without getting anything at all lol.

For example, if I help my friend, I can either chest run a bit or fill out my handbook a bit or w/e the reason. Getting nothing is really dumb lol!

Dougal Kronik · Feb 19, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

I'd support this if it was a one shot character, that gets no XP, title progression, and is just there to give a party a necessary profession that the player must have visited with another PvE character.

pamelf · Feb 19, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I'd rather allow account wide outpost unlock rather than that.

/signed for this...

cellardweller · Feb 19, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

I mentioned a similar idea in another thread somewhere, having 3 sets of toons - pvp, pve and story mode. PvP as they currently are, story mode is what is currently called pve toons. The new category would allow you to create a L20 toon with account based town, skill and title based unlocks, have access to the create weapon/armour interface that pvp toons have. This allows those that enjoy playing though story mode and roleplaying etc to continue doing so, but at the same time allows those that just want to play pve guildwars a way to do so without having to drag themselves through the story/level/mapping grind.

ManiSan · Feb 19, 2008, 06:41 AM // 06:41

/signed
It would be like playing a hero

Angelina Collins · Feb 19, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

/not signed

Bad idea that would be abused, face it PvP ppl, some things you need to work for, and character development in PvE is one of them. I know it's a grind and it can suck sometimes, but that is life.

|pyro| · Feb 19, 2008, 09:45 AM // 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

For example, if I help my friend, I can either chest run a bit or fill out my handbook a bit or w/e the reason. Getting nothing is really dumb lol!

I help my friends without the need to get anything. I love my friends and like to spend time with time, and if I can spend time with then in GW also, not only in school - HEY its even better. I have to totally disagree with you.

As the OP is considered, I think it will never be implanted.

NND · Feb 19, 2008, 10:35 AM // 10:35

weee

more farming bots coming! :P

oh and imagine trying to do a full doa run with a balanced group with a monk who has just created his char.. that would be fun

Alex the Great · Feb 19, 2008, 11:09 AM // 11:09

rofl no
it takes money to get a character outfitted, i just got my rit sheap armour and a green weapon, the whole thing cost me 27k (radients for 900g wtf)

Sab · Feb 19, 2008, 11:45 AM // 11:45

I'm surprised nobody's defending this with the same arguments people use to defend Ursan:

- If you don't want to use it, you don't have to
- Other players using this doesn't devalue your own achievements (you should be playing for yourself, not to seek validation from others)
- It will make pugging easier
- Casual players without a lot of time on their hands will be able to enjoy more of the game
- People already shortcut through the game by getting runs, this is no different

Not that I believe any of that, just some food for thought.