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Jenn · Mar 13, 2008, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by Siirius Black

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If this is implemented I can forsee major abuse.

Yar, what he said

jonnieboi05 · Mar 13, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52

and this is why i don't group with real people (except for my g/f.... otherwise she'd probally kill me [but even so it's been ages since i was even with HER doing some PvE type event]) but no.. seriously... this is why it's so much better to do everything with AI. you never have to worry about these "problems".

and yes, i agree, the feature would be VERY abused.

legion_rat · Mar 13, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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I dont see where its that big of a problem. as mentioned if you want to loose the heros and a player refuses kick the player. What happens if the leader is retarded and wont lose his lame ass heros? can the person on the bottom of the list him the hero?

This of course is why I dont PUG.

~the rat~

You can't see me · Mar 14, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

The solution is not to group with people who are appaerently Terrible. I'm mostly talking of situations where you have someone afk with heros, which is incredibly annoying, though, in most cases no fault of their own.

I don't know how many times I'll have to say this.

anonymous · Mar 14, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

You can't assume everyone who is a party leader is going to be an experienced, mature, benevolent player. There would be so much abuse for this feature. I can see it now "Zomg, get rid of that dragon slash koss, my mending + vigorous spirit + flourish bar is sooooo much better n00b!!!!"

In order for this to work, there would have to be some quiz you'd have to take before being able to be a party leader.

Why would you want to be in a group with someone like that anyway? They wouldn't need to kick my heroes, if the said something like that I would leave myself.

Lykan · Mar 14, 2008, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by Dem Babyz Iz Mine

. If one person's not kicking their heroes, they really shouldn't be on the team if they aren't listening to what other people are telling them. Be better off just kicking them and, by extension, their heroes.

Cale Roughstar · Mar 14, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35

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If you their heroes are bad enough that they need to be kicked, then you probably dont want that player in your group as well...

Draginvry · Mar 14, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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If their heros' bars are terribad, there's a good chance that the player controlling them isn't much better with their own bar. The solution is simple, kick the player with the heros. Also, their refusal to kick heros shows them to be selfish, and not a team player. If you haven't kicked them by the time you realize this, then pinch yourself for your stupidity, and then kick the player.

If someone immediately puts in a bunch of monks like "OMG check out Ogden dual HB spamz lolz" There is a very good chance that such a player doesn't even belong in one of your party slots to begin with.

I always kick the player if they refuse to ping hero skills, or remove heros when I ask.

Kanyatta · Mar 14, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

I don't know how many times I'll have to say this.

Yes, you keep quoting that post, and people keep refuting it, I realize there's still about 3 or 4 people on here that don't get it yet, but most of us do, and you keep quoting it, and it keeps getting shot down, and you fail to explain how it is still credible.

Holly Herro · Mar 14, 2008, 06:19 AM // 06:19

Pugs died with heroes.

gremlin · Mar 14, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48

So what is so difficult about talking to the rest of the party then you close the group then restart and all those not afk rejoin.

Takes oh 20 seconds, probably about as long as kicking heroes and explaining to the group why your doing it.

If the party members cannot handle that little task then you wouldn't want to pug with them now would you.

Darkobra · Mar 14, 2008, 12:50 PM // 12:50

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Originally Posted by Dem Babyz Iz Mine

Yeah, but then that takes away some of the team aspect. If one person's not kicking their heroes, they really shouldn't be on the team if they aren't listening to what other people are telling them. Be better off just kicking them and, by extension, their heroes.

That's pretty much my stance on it, too.

Sleeper Service · Mar 14, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00

? all this command would do is extend (and rightfully so imo) the party leaders right of decision to heroes...

look at it from the other perspective, if you join someones team and they kick YOUR heroes from the party (for whatever reason) would you not leave?

I would. (if i dont like the reason)

/signed.

Rushin Roulette · Mar 14, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08

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Originally Posted by Holly Herro

Pugs died with heroes.

Nope, thats not true. All the Yogibear frenzy/healsig echomending/meteor shower with leeroy monk PUGs still manage this just as well as before heroes were introduced

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As to the subject... Ill say;

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I think its a great idea. Dont get me wrong, but the turning point is... not everyone would use this ability propperly, you will get loads of abuse from this. A shame really

Velise_Snowtorm · Mar 14, 2008, 01:11 PM // 13:11

I can see the point of the OP, but I agree with the many others that a feature like that would be abused.

Maybe a better idea would be to have all heroes automatically kicked when you join a group? I don't PuG, but I always have to tell a guildie or friend to drops some heroes when a few of us group up. *shrug*

MithranArkanere · Mar 14, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37

There is already a quite easy way to kick heroes: Kick their leader.

The current system makes people talk and decide. So it's better than just kick without asking.

Shayne Hawke · Mar 14, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

/signed. Useful enough.

You can't see me · Mar 14, 2008, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

Yes, you keep quoting that post, and people keep refuting it, I realize there's still about 3 or 4 people on here that don't get it yet, but most of us do, and you keep quoting it, and it keeps getting shot down, and you fail to explain how it is still credible.

Why would I explain why it is still credible if the only argument against the statement itself is one that the statement shoots down?

There's no reason a party leader should not have a full party rule capability. If a party leader does not like heros with normal builds, you can probably assume that those builds won't be appealing on a player, or he'll ask the player to switch bars (This has happened to me quite often) to something terrible. Therefore, it's a bad idea to group with him in the first place.

Not everyone watches the chat, even if not afk. They're probably browsing for music while the group gets together, and if one of their heros must be dealt with, it shouldn't be this way, as the group leader's power was designed to take care of this situation.

X Ice Man X · Mar 14, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

People have to, and probably should, use the bathroom before starting something. There's no reason not to group with them, but the hero situation is still annoying. It's one of the many cases.

Well wait for them to get back. Are you planning on starting the mission without them as well? Probably not, so your going to need them to come back.

It will just cause more hassle then its worth, wait the extra minute or kick the player with the heroes and they can join when they come back.

serod · Mar 14, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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