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arcanemacabre · Mar 18, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

As the Hall of Monuments' elite armor display is set up right now, you can display any full elite set without the headpiece/helmet. So you only need 4 pieces of the whole set, which is fine since some sets don't even have a headpiece, such as the Necro Scar Pattern. This also means that if you don't like the headpiece, such as elite Gladiator, or if the headpiece won't even be visible, such as many of the Monk head tattoos on a character with hair, you don't have to buy it and still display it. Great. Awesome.

My idea is to allow a little more leeway to this monument by allowing any 4 pieces of a set to count as a full set. This is because other classes have pieces that are fairly non-descript, and have little reason to be purchased other than to 'complete the set.' Two of the biggest examples I can think of are Mesmer gloves and Dervish boots. Both of those classes have headpieces that are quite visible and unique, and often matching the set well, while those other armor pieces just seem like add-ons.

pfaile · Mar 18, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

all one would have to do then is get three pieces (Chest, legs, arms) and then buy 5 different pieces (feet) to complete your HoM.

/not signed

arcanemacabre · Mar 18, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by pfaile

all one would have to do then is get three pieces (Chest, legs, arms) and then buy 5 different pieces (feet) to complete your HoM.

/not signed

No, you misunderstand (or I didn't explain it well). You would need to buy 4 pieces of the elite armor you wish to display, just like it is now. The only thing I'm suggesting different is that they can be any 4 pieces of that particular set, rather than just the chest, legs, arms, feet. So any combination - chest, head, arms, feet; or chest, head, legs, feet; or head, legs, arms, feet; etc. All 4 pieces would still have to come from that same set to be considered 'complete.'

pfaile · Mar 18, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29

I stand corrected, barefooted, but hooded dervish is what you are saying, right?

arcanemacabre · Mar 18, 2008, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by pfaile

I stand corrected, barefooted, but hooded dervish is what you are saying, right?

Yeah, that is an example. They would have say the hood, chest, legs, and gloves of FoW armor, but no boots, and still be considered a full set for the HoM display. You still need 4 of 5 pieces, you just get to choose which 4 you want.

Buddhaofwar · Mar 18, 2008, 10:12 AM // 10:12

hmm, not a bad idea. it also allows some people who are a bit short on cash, to buy the 4 least expensive, and skip on the chest.

/signed

quickmonty · Mar 18, 2008, 10:25 AM // 10:25

You don't need the headpiece to display a set in HoM, so you only need 4 pieces as it is now.

/notsigned

If you can't afford the chest piece, too bad. It doesn't take that long to scrape up the extra gold.
It is a SET .... not a mix and match.

Alicendre · Mar 18, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

You don't need the headpiece to display a set in HoM, so you only need 4 pieces as it is now.

/notsigned

You need those exact 4 pieces : chest, arms, legs, foot.
This idea would make it "any" 4 pieces : for example, headpiece, chest, arms, legs.

/signed, it's nice for people who have combinations

enxa · Mar 18, 2008, 12:02 PM // 12:02

make dwarven armor displayable.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 18, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08

The HoM armors are what is known as "progressive gold sinks". That means that they're wholly optional, and designed to drain excess gold from the game.

It is therefore in ANets (and the games) interest that people waste as much money and resources as possible on these armors. Hence, allowing non-complete or mixed sets work against the intended purpose of the armors.

I wont either sign or unsign - this is simply not something ANet is ever likely to change.

Avatara · Mar 18, 2008, 03:04 PM // 15:04

/not signed

You would be able to skip the chest... that part obviously costs the most.

Shayne Hawke · Mar 18, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

My suggestion on this would to let the HoM take any currently viable (and also including non-set pieces) chest, glove, legging, and boot piece, one of each, and call that a set. Also, add an option to include the helmet/mask or not.

That way, you can show up to five unique sets that can be any combo of armor you'd like.

However, your suggestion calls for something much more different than what I see the HoM to be now.

/notsigned

Pleikki · Mar 19, 2008, 06:32 AM // 06:32

/signed my mes would love it

tmakinen · Mar 19, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

/signed on the condition that one of the 4 pieces must be chest (otherwise that would be too unfair to those who are not given the option of full 5 piece sets to choose from).

Doesn't matter to me though since I've already filled my HoM.

Witchblade · Mar 19, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

/not signed

people willing to fill their HoM can afford a lil helmet for 15k

15k is a couple hours of farm if you aint very lucky, btw

Darkobra · Mar 19, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

/not signed

people willing to fill their HoM can afford a lil helmet for 15k

15k is a couple hours of farm if you aint very lucky, btw

As it stands, you don't need the helmet for the armours on display. This means, you do need 4 pieces: chest, legs, hands and feet.

His suggestion is to make it still require four pieces but to be ANY of the four and not limited to just these four.

shru · Mar 19, 2008, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

As it stands, you don't need the helmet for the armours on display. This means, you do need 4 pieces: chest, legs, hands and feet.

His suggestion is to make it still require four pieces but to be ANY of the four and not limited to just these four.

And it's been stated by many, those who decide to be cheap can opt out of buying the chest piece and get the helm instead. This can become a problem when dealing with some sets that require very expensive crafting materials, which are a very important gold sink at this time. Aside from that, It can also lead to some argueing over privlages because some classes do not have helms for some sets while others have helms for every set.
/notsigned

Darkobra · Mar 19, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by shru

And it's been stated by many, those who decide to be cheap can opt out of buying the chest piece and get the helm instead. This can become a problem when dealing with some sets that require very expensive crafting materials, which are a very important gold sink at this time. Aside from that, It can also lead to some argueing over privlages because some classes do not have helms for some sets while others have helms for every set.
/notsigned

I know. I did read it all.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 19, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

You don't need the headpiece to display a set in HoM, so you only need 4 pieces as it is now.

Cool, thanks, you saved me a good deal of cash on my Mesmer (I can get him spectacles instead of those ugly mesmer masks.)

shru · Mar 19, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

I know. I did read it all.

Sorry quoted the wrong person, I'll fix it when I have access to a real computer.