Curse

Mickey · Mar 18, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

This is probably the most annoying thing I've ever encountered. I keep running into healers, that, even though they are part of a different group, will run from ANYWHERE on the map to heal the group your fighting. If they heal one member of the group, and you start killing the group, they will literally run miles back to you to heal the group. It's extremely annoying, as it causes wipe when the second group follows it's healer.

I propose that they fix this. If the healer is within its aggro range, it should be able to heal the group, but it shouldn't run from 4 aggro bubbles away to heal the group.

genofreek · Mar 18, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

You know, this happens to me a lot in HM RoT. I don't really get it elsewhere. Words of Madness will just kind of travel over from the edge of the compass or beyond and start healing, although usually there's a delay before the rest of the group comes over, if it comes over at all.

I'm not sure how it happens, since it's never close to where I was even coming from. :-\

bhavv · Mar 18, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30

And I was hoping for a buff henchie healers thread. How wrong was I.

But I have noticed this. When I fight one mob, healers from another one will run to heal the mob I am fighting, although tbh I have never seen that healers group follow unless I attack the healer.

And yea, blessed light factions hench and rebirth on the other wise decent prot hench are a waste of space in this game. Off topic I know, but thats what I wanted to say.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 18, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Learn to pull?

Healers from other groups will only start to heal mobs which are within aggro distance of them, but once they've started they will keep tabs on that mob. You either need to avoid attacking mobs with other healers within aggro distance, or wait until the healer is sufficiently far from the mob that you can kill it before the healer can run to it.

Is it Aurora Glade HM you're having trouble with? If so, the solution is to not bring necros, especially not minionmasters.

Shayne Hawke · Mar 18, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

1. Pull. More distance is better.
2. [skill]Pin Down[/skill] / [skill]Crippling Shot[/skill]
3. [skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill]

If your complaint were solely on NM, I'd be laughing at you. Even in HM, a good longbow/flatbow and a few steps distance should be able to give you enough room to fight without being swarmed.

/notsigned

I Is Special · Mar 19, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

1. Pull. More distance is better.
...a good longbow/flatbow and a few steps distance should be able to give you enough room to fight without being swarmed.

/notsigned

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Learn to pull?

Healers from other groups will only start to heal mobs which are within aggro distance of them, but once they've started they will keep tabs on that mob. You either need to avoid attacking mobs with other healers within aggro distance, or wait until the healer is sufficiently far from the mob that you can kill it before the healer can run to it.

Did you guys read the OP? He said that they were coming and healing the group when they were multiple aggro bubbles away. This isn't an issue of pulling far enough or anything like that- Its Fked up AI.

And also, i had the same trouble in FoW (HM) one time. A group of 2 shadow monks came from about 1.5 aggro bubbles away every time i aggroed a specific group.

So /signed

Mickey · Mar 19, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by I Is Special

Did you guys read the OP? He said that they were coming and healing the group when they were multiple aggro bubbles away. This isn't an issue of pulling far enough or anything like that- Its Fked up AI.

And also, i had the same trouble in FoW (HM) one time. A group of 2 shadow monks came from about 1.5 aggro bubbles away every time i aggroed a specific group.

So /signed

I was already expecting the Lern 2 Pull comments, but it's just annoying, especially if I overaggro once, and the healers latch on. Then if I pull again, it doesn't matter what I do, the groups are like stuck together via the healer.

tehshadowninjar · Mar 19, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Yeah, and the thing I hate about this is when you start to aggro a healer, the entire group comes for you, then more and more groups come for you, which just isn't right, so I'd really love to see this fixed.

/signed

gremlin · Mar 19, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Signed

Yes this need fixing, I believe there is a similar problem with General Morghain as sometimes he just gets wanderlust and aggros everything.

Usually happens in dungeons flag the party flag him makes no difference off he goes.

Maybe certain builds cause it to happen

Witchblade · Mar 19, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

yup let's make "Hard" Mode easier again...

The Meth · Mar 19, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

I think they should make the AI not heal anything outside its party (excluding henchmen of course, have to protect rurik!). This would also fix the really annoying problem where neutral NPCs heal the enemies you are fighting, doesn't everyone hate that?

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

yup let's make "Hard" Mode easier again...

Not so much make it easier, just remove an annoyance and the requisite time consuming workaround. You still have to fight the same group, you just don't have to shoot it from flatbow range, run for half a map, and then turn and fight the same group.

shru · Mar 19, 2008, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

yup let's make "Hard" Mode easier again...

I'm sorry, but I highly doubt this was an intended feature of HM, because for one, it occurs in both NM and HM. It's just that it's typically easier to deal with two NM mobs so there is usualy less complaining at that level.
Healers way over extending their patrol and their own group to heal mobs you are currently fighting is very frustration, and typically leads to over aggro and sometimes even wipes. While it's not a dire bug that needs fixing, it certainly occurs enough to become a thorn in the side of any HM adventurer.
/signed

Proff · Mar 19, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Learn to pull...

shru · Mar 19, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

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Originally Posted by Proff

Learn to pull...

It's not a matter of pulling, these healers can charge in from over a radar away, and once they're ingaged with your team, their own group will soon join them.

explodemyheart · Mar 19, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by Proff

Learn to pull...

Learn to read...

Tyla · Mar 19, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

/signed

Could fix a little annoyance...

Proff · Mar 19, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by shru

It's not a matter of pulling, these healers can charge in from over a radar away, and once they're ingaged with your team, their own group will soon join them.

Cleared EotN and Prophecies in HM and i've never had it happen to me, the only wipes I've had were mine or my teams fault so either it's how you pull or how you aggro.

explodemyheart · Mar 19, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Proff

Cleared EotN and Prophecies in HM and i've never had it happen to me, the only wipes I've had were mine or my teams fault so either it's how you pull or how you aggro.

Because you're the embodiment of everybody that plays GW, right? I haven't personally experienced half of the bugs in the game that have been fixed, that doesn't mean they weren't happening.

mazey vorstagg · Mar 19, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

I've had it many times in the CoF charr mission. At the start of the second level, the groups of charr before the charr captive always pull a healer from another group.

Sometimes by sheer luck you can get the agro to break, but normally the healer runs from off radar to heal a member of the group I'm attacking.

It's a bug, I've learned to deal with it, but it should be fixed.

Proff · Mar 19, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by explodemyheart

Because you're the embodiment of everybody that plays GW, right? I haven't personally experienced half of the bugs in the game that have been fixed, that doesn't mean they weren't happening.

No, that's why I said "I don't have any problems with this" and which is why I'm not signing. I never said my opinion is that of every GW player out there, learn to read k? And if you think this is a bug make a post here about it http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...play.php?f=259 and QQ some more.