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turnkey1970 · Mar 18, 2008, 11:51 AM // 11:51

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

Don't know if I want one. And I will Never buy one. The part they never bother with is promotion and support of personal ideal fantasy in the characterization. Elimination of skins also eliminates the option to appear in a manner entertaining to the player. I support no elitest bullcrap in this. Equal opportunity should not be denied in a virtual world because some prick wants to jack up the price on what they own.

By the way, I really am not a prick. Can we keep the personal attacks in PMs? Thanks.

ogre_jd · Mar 18, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

The economy, being based on the transfer potentially infinite supplies of items that are 90% vanity, is fine as it is and doesn't need "snapping back".

DRGN · Mar 18, 2008, 12:40 PM // 12:40

The bigger problems is that when you kill the increase in the number of the weapons, the supply will decrease, and in the extreme, dry up entirely. Some people will buy them and not resell. Some people will quit the game and those weapons will drop out of the market. Eventually, you'll see some of them going for really exorbitant amounts of money. We have enough stuff going for 100k + XXX ecto, I don't think we need to make more. I understand where you're coming from with this, but it would end up hurting more than helping.

/notsigned

Kattar · Mar 18, 2008, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by genofreek

Oh man, while I don't have a problem with the concept, let's not make that Playskool-lookin' thing any more sought after than it already is.

Yeah, that's basically the problem. Those that have been playing longer will get richer from selling the stuff they've kept. May throw off the economy even more.

/notsigned

Numa Pompilius · Mar 18, 2008, 12:52 PM // 12:52

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Originally Posted by DRGN

Eventually, you'll see some of them going for really exorbitant amounts of money.

That is the whole point of the suggestion. "Hey, I got 50 Kole's Gauntlet clogging up the mules on my four accounts - it'd sure be nice if they were worth 100K + xxx ecto each so it was worth my while to sell them! Hmm... How can I get ANet to intervene to make them rare?"

Problem is that ANet listens to uber-farmers like that, as proven by the divine ANet intervention to increase the price of minipigs last dragon festival, for the financial benefit of uber-farmers close to ANet.

Which is why I think that now that this suggestion has been made, it's just a matter of time before ANet implements it. It's exactly what the uber-farmers want, and ANet listens to the "elite".

I'm still going to /unsign it as a supremely bad idea, though.

Zydonis · Mar 18, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

I don't know about the average farmer, but I don't keep items I find for more than a couple days, so I really don't see why this would be about OP wanting to get rid of his 50 raven stave's for 100k each. The fact is that NOTHING is worth anything anymore.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 18, 2008, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Which is why farmers want item rarity increased.

Exactly like happened with the minipig, which instantly went from 1K to 20K each when ANet stepped in to raise its price.

Let's assume Raven Staffs stopped dropping today. What do you think a gold perfect one would be worth tomorrow? In a months time?

Lykan · Mar 18, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13

/not signed

I like prices low

MirkoTeran · Mar 18, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

I will sign this just for the fact I would like to see all the QQ it causes.

Pyro maniac · Mar 18, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

/signed for flamberge

Jetdoc · Mar 18, 2008, 01:42 PM // 13:42

This goes against everything that GW stands for...if anything, A-Net will continue to try to make things more accessible, not less.

Zydonis · Mar 18, 2008, 02:15 PM // 14:15

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Which is why farmers want item rarity increased.

Really?

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Exactly like happened with the minipig, which instantly went from 1K to 20K each when ANet stepped in to raise its price.

Still see pigs for 5k.

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Let's assume Raven Staffs stopped dropping today. What do you think a gold perfect one would be worth tomorrow? In a months time?

The price would go up, creating more hard-to-earn items, giving the average player another reason to continue playing the game after beating campaigns. Honestly, grinding for titles that don't do anything but progress another title doesn't appeal to everyone.

Also, this wouldn't help many of your hated farmers, as farmers don't hang on to many of the items they get, and very rarely any of the lower end skins.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 18, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Oh, sure, we want the people who were lucky enough to happen to have certain A-net chosen items at the time to get rich while the item reaches unobtainable status for all but the very richest players.

Stupid, stupid idea.

/notsigned

HawkofStorms · Mar 18, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Look, its not about making the "new super rare leet item." Even if raven staves stoped droping tommorow, that doesn't make them as rare and valuable as say... a chaos axe.

The OP just doesn't want to see every single weapon skin in the game cost 500g.

Painbringer · Mar 18, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

So my req 8 hammer may be wurth something

/signed

Chthon · Mar 18, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

/not signed

The only skin I want to see retired in that damn lesser guardian spear.

Stockholm · Mar 18, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by AbalaDoon

. woespreader scareater. both excellent staves that are worthless now. Cronk

They are just as useful today as when they cost +100K. As are all weapons, they might not be "Worth" as much as trade items, but so what......you can't take ectos or gold with you to GW2 anyway. Money (gold) is meant to be spent not hoarded.

/not signed

Eldin · Mar 18, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Eh, I dunno if we need another stupid gold sink. But if we did do this...

Retire all the epic FoW and UW skins, which are still epic but I'd love to show off the fact that they've been around since 2005 and "NO YOU NIGHTFALLERS ARE NOT SPECIAL, YOU DID NOT INVENT THEM!".

Also...

"retire FDS lololol moar popularz again"

Konig Des Todes · Mar 18, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

I doubt anet would do this, with all the updates that effected teh economy of the game, it seems they want things to be low, with a few mistakes *note the mini pig*, probably to prevent people from not being able to get the stuff they want...sadly, the main problem with this is then people cannot buy things like elite armor if they want that stuff.

You can't see me · Mar 19, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

/Not Signed, for two main reasons.

I think that it's good that there are many choices to pick from when it comes to weapons and their prices. You have a vast selection at affordable rates that you can mix and match without spending countless hours to get them. The same goes with armor, and I think we all agree that the armor system is nicely done. While it keeps the choices open and budgest friendly, it also has armors that satisfy the need to look rich. (Obviously, Fissure of Woe Armor). I like weapons being the same way.

Secondly, if Arenanet kept retiring old skins, then they would eventually have to make new skins that didn't absolutely make you want to die, and that's not happening.