Curse

ivan.alicard · Mar 26, 2008, 06:41 AM // 06:41

so this is what I'm getting, you fail so now you want anet to do your dirty work nerfing whatever it is you can't win :/ i would name the counter but someoen else beat me to it o.O

Sol Deathgard · Mar 26, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29

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Originally Posted by ZionHikari

with 13 critical strikes, it can last 9 second combined with critical eye, u can easily maintain it indefinitely until there out of foes, and since it a very good skill I dont see a harm in making it an Elite, also Way of Perfection seem a bit more overpowered compared to vigorous spirit since a sins can almost alway make a critical strike with high attribute and critical eye, or at least seem like it.

2 words..... Enchantment removal. Read your skills, learn to counter, & shut up.

Konig Des Todes · Mar 26, 2008, 08:24 AM // 08:24

Anyways, I think its obvious no one agrees with the OP(and probably anyone else who suggest nerfing skills). So....close?

C2K · Mar 26, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Originally Posted by ZionHikari

This nerf should make a devastating look to a lot of sins. It can be nerf by increasing recharge to 60 or decreasing the duration. And Critical Eye need to be nerfed also, it can just simply be changed into a stance as it now can be removed. I hope I don't get flamed by angry sins mob

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Oh and another nerd for critical defense can be make it into an elite skill which probably won't since no elite skill will be produced.

Alright, I'm curious. What beat you down in PvE that made you want to cry out for a useless nerf?

Luminarus · Mar 26, 2008, 08:47 AM // 08:47

13 Critical Strikes is a large investment for an easily removable block. Its good, but not broken, any enchant strip kills it.

Crit Eye is hardly broken as it is, the extra crit chance doesnt make that big a difference, when with attack chains the crit isnt where the damage comes from, and with crit scythe/barrage/axe way of the master pwns it. Oh yeah... there is an elite crit eye... its called Way of the Assassin.

Way of Perfection is not broken... yes its better then vig spirit but
a) Vig spirit is target ally, so can be popped on other people
b) Way of Perfection heals only on crits, not attacks so blind etc wont heal (vig will)
c) Comparing it to vigourous spirit is like comparing shadow refuge to healing breeze. Its not worth it because vig spirit is crappy...

The only sin builds that constantly attack are moebius deathblossom & shattering assault. These are pressure builds, and without having a survival skill would get pawned on the front line. Most other good sin builds are spikes that use their chain and get out. Crit defences fails on them, because of down time.

Finally, the only reason I can see for someone to want to nerf this is because they cant beat someone using it. If that is the case, then no offence but learn to play better.

Play Better = Win More = Not need fine skills to be nerfed.

skanvak · Mar 26, 2008, 09:11 AM // 09:11

*Militant post*

Please no more skill change. Skill change must stay during playstesting. This is a post of the NO MORE SKILL CHANGE group.

Stormlord Alex · Mar 26, 2008, 09:28 AM // 09:28

The OP is an idiot and a troll.

/close plz?

Darkhell153 · Mar 26, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

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Originally Posted by ZionHikari

with 13 critical strikes, it can last 9 second combined with critical eye, u can easily maintain it indefinitely until there out of foes, and since it a very good skill I dont see a harm in making it an Elite, also Way of Perfection seem a bit more overpowered compared to vigorous spirit since a sins can almost alway make a critical strike with high attribute and critical eye, or at least seem like it.

I'm going to take a ripped off line outta naruto just for this statement

foolish threadstarter, your argument is weak...why is it weak? It's because it lacks...the knowledge that you can easily disable and remove critical defenses with a freakin shatter enchantment spell or any other remove enchantment spell! (that is unless they've changed it into a skill by the time I got back from vacation and even then just changing it back to an enchantment would be a nerf in itself)

cgruber · Mar 28, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by yum

Man, why do ppl want to nerf skills that are already shit?

It's not shit. However, it doesn't need a nerf.

N1ghtstalker · Mar 28, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

crit eye is also decent at a high crit strikes level
crit defenses can be ripped with a good necro and it's only for melee
btw have you seen this yet?[skill]avatar of grenth[/skill] or a contra sin? [skill]shattering assault[/skill]
or also a good alternative that hasn't been posted yet [skill]well of the profane[/skill]
so please dont nerf sins again
even tho i don't play my sin much
they're still black and blue from the last time they got a wacking by the nerfstick

phan · Mar 28, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

crit eye is also decent at a high crit strikes level
crit defenses can be ripped with a good necro and it's only for melee
btw have you seen this yet?[skill]avatar of grenth[/skill] or a contra sin? [skill]shattering assault[/skill]
or also a good alternative that hasn't been posted yet [skill]well of the profane[/skill]
so please dont nerf sins again
even tho i don't play my sin much
they're still black and blue from the last time they got a wacking by the nerfstick

mehh ; i don't see my warrior using well of pref .. or go W/ME and take ench removal ..

Giving solutions to remove an ench is useless because crit def is only used in in unorganized PvP so making it hard to counter it ..

N1ghtstalker · Mar 28, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by phan

mehh ; i don't see my warrior using well of pref .. or go W/ME and take ench removal ..

Giving solutions to remove an ench is useless because crit def is only used in in unorganized PvP so making it hard to counter it ..

yes i think so
if i get that on my hands i'd go ice spikes on em and keep nuking em with water trident
but still
ppl are unpredictable
i used to see (all in one day) in PvP:

a war use charge and barbed trap
another war casting backfire
a sin using migraine

tehshadowninjar · Mar 28, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Seriously, /close

Too many people whine about crit def sins. But you want critical eye to be nerfed? WHY? Lern2playIMO.

Riot Narita · Mar 28, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by C2K

Alright, I'm curious. What beat you down in PvE that made you want to cry out for a useless nerf?

He tried to farm Raptor Nestlings and was crushed like a bug.

Dronte · Mar 28, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by ZionHikari

This nerf should make a devastating look to a lot of sins. It can be nerf by increasing recharge to 60 or decreasing the duration. And Critical Eye need to be nerfed also, it can just simply be changed into a stance as it now can be removed. I hope I don't get flamed by angry sins mob

.
Oh and another nerd for critical defense can be make it into an elite skill which probably won't since no elite skill will be produced.

Just because you fail at killing a crit defenses sin? Bad..

An Saighead Is Gear · Mar 28, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Assassins are bad enough as it is without nerfing one of their remaining good skills, just because you are too thick/lazy to bring Enchantment removal.

/close please

legion_rat · Mar 28, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

ok so let me get this right the few skills that sins can use in pve that makes life easier you want to kill.

/notsigned go be a troll on WoWs Wikki.

can a mod pls close this useless thread.

~the rat~

Shayne Hawke · Mar 29, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

lol, let's turn the assassin from the instagib class to the instagib'd class.

/notsigned

FlamingMetroid · Mar 29, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

/very not signed
If the sin wasn't, you know, the most broken class they could have ever created and dead in PvP, then sure your whining might almost have the slightest bit of validity.

RavagerOfDreams · Mar 29, 2008, 04:14 AM // 04:14

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Originally Posted by An Saighead Is Gear

Assassins are bad enough as it is without nerfing one of their remaining good skills, just because you are too thick/lazy to bring Enchantment removal.

/close please

there is a fatty difference between bad and broken