Curse

Arduin · Apr 12, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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Originally Posted by Zesbeer

if you read the thread you would know that i have.

Maybe he isn't referring to you? That is, I suppose this suggestion isn't only for you, but for the entire community right?

Anyways, this suggestion is about people being lazy again. If anyone calls redoing the mission in NM on more time grinding, they haven't got a clue what grinding is.

So you can do the missions on HM, therefore you can do it on NM, therefore you need to get both rewarded at the same time?

Look at me! I can open a chest, I sure can open another one...why doesn't it give me max title immidiately?

/notsigned

BlackSephir · Apr 12, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Rofl
/notsigned
HM and NM are not the same things so it's not even grinding.

Zesbeer · Apr 12, 2008, 10:34 AM // 10:34

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Rofl
/notsigned
HM and NM are not the same things so it's not even grinding.

please explain to me why they arent the same thing the last time i checked the only difference is time and high lvl monsters. if you noticed i said nothing about getting the reward in the op. thats something else some one else tagged on. if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone and its also why i didnt say anything about it in the main post.

i would also like to point out it would only work one way ie if you complete a hm mission it would cover the normal mode mission. and not the other way around.

MithranArkanere · Apr 12, 2008, 10:46 AM // 10:46

If you made all missions before HM you got Protector, and you had to make them all again to get Guardian.

So it's only logical to make things the opposite way if you made Guardian first.

There's nothing to discuss here. Too many people had to make them all twice, and there are even some Missions that are easier in HM.
YES, THEY ARE.
One good example is Augury Rock.

That doppleganger kills itself in under 5 seconds in HM, while in NM always takes longer with the same build.

HM is different because enemies have increased speed, so punish skills affect them much more.

Solas · Apr 12, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by Zesbeer

people who are going for a title can get them much easer its not like they need to prove that they need to do it.

you dont need to prove it, if you ccna dfo it in Hm you cna do it in NM, Nm missions are easy enough already without it being bypassed.

BlackSephir · Apr 12, 2008, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by Zesbeer

please explain to me why they arent the same thing the last time i checked the only difference is time and high lvl monsters. if you noticed i said nothing about getting the reward in the op. thats something else some one else tagged on. if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone and its also why i didnt say anything about it in the main post.

You also forgot some other things, like monster's ias, skills etc. And maybe YOU said nothing about grind but HawkofStorms did. You're sadly mistaken if you think everybody here is obligated to reply to your posts. Mission objectives are the same, HM and NM related things are not.

payne · Apr 12, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47

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Originally Posted by Zesbeer

oh man there soooooo different. um no its the exact same but with different lvl monsters. with the exception of factions where they change the time it takes, for good reason. so why should i have to go back and beat it again in normal mode? or an even better idea if you get the title Guardian of ___ you should also be reward the title Protector of ____ the same area this would eliminate a lot of grind.

erm..if you have Hm you should have done em all in NM anyway - and HM is not harder then NM it just requires a different strat of better bars!

??

HawkofStorms · Apr 12, 2008, 03:43 PM // 15:43

This is really pathetic.

The best arguement against this is "they didn't have this when I got Guardian/Protector, so they shouldn't add it for everybody, even though it makes sense."

MithranArkanere · Apr 12, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

No, it does not make sense.

HM and NM and NOT the same.

You can only vanquish in HM, for example. It's in the same area, but the game rules are different.

Chronos the Defiler · Apr 12, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by Zesbeer

if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone

How is it not fair to everyone now? if someone cba to do it in NM, then it is not an issue of fairness, it is an issue of laziness.

IMO, if any changes should be made to this system is that you should be required to complete a mission in NM before you can even enter in HM.

MithranArkanere · Apr 12, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler

How is it not fair to everyone now? if someone cba to do it in NM, then it is not an issue of fairness, it is an issue of laziness.

IMO, if any changes should be made to this system is that you should be required to complete a mission in NM before you can even enter in HM.

That would be more logical.

MagmaRed · Apr 12, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

This is really pathetic.

The best arguement against this is "they didn't have this when I got Guardian/Protector, so they shouldn't add it for everybody, even though it makes sense."

Can I please have titles for NM Vanquishing then? Can I fill my Hero Handbook at the same time as my Hard Mode Hero Handbook too? This is the snowball that starts an avalanche. I got Guardian and Protector on my main character a long time ago. However, I only have Protector on my other characters. I still have Guardian to do. Am I upset that this idea would mean I 'wasted' time doing the Protectot titles? No, I'm against it because it makes no sense to me. HM and NM are different. You may want to say it is only the skills, IAS, movement, recharge, etc. of the monster that changed, but THAT IS DIFFERENT. NM you can comlpete a mission with 1 Monk and 5 players. Try that on HM and you will have a difficlut time. This changes the make up of your team. Just because NM is easier, does not mean you should get credit without doing it.

I want my level 20 Monk to get credit for a HM and NM Hero Handbook for doing the quests in HM. I'm only rank 4 in the titles, so I can use both books still

/unsigned still

Arduin · Apr 12, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

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Originally Posted by Zesbeer

if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone and its also why i didnt say anything about it in the main post.

Good luck getting this through to Anet now.

Zesbeer · Apr 12, 2008, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zesbeer
if anet isnt completely retarded they would figure out a away to do it so it would be fair to everyone and its also why i didnt say anything about it in the main post.

Good luck getting this through to Anet now.

READ THE POST I SAID IF and ISNT= IS NOT

i love how people take short bits and twist them to have them say what they want.

Red Sand · Apr 12, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

/notsigned.

I worked hard to get my Protector title, you work hard for your Guardian title. Have a nice day.

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IMO, if any changes should be made to this system is that you should be required to complete a mission in NM before you can even enter in HM.

That's hillarious. I'd sign that one.

freaky naughty · Apr 13, 2008, 01:39 AM // 01:39

/signed c'mon logically if you do it in HM doing it again in NM is going to be no problem and is going to be worthless grind. If you do a mission in Hm and try it again in NM its like getting on your epic pokemon red version killing the elite four then getting your pokemon to lvl 100 and doing it again.

MithranArkanere · Apr 13, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by freaky naughty

/signed c'mon logically if you do it in HM doing it again in NM is going to be no problem and is going to be worthless grind. If you do a mission in Hm and try it again in NM its like getting on your epic pokemon red version killing the elite four then getting your pokemon to lvl 100 and doing it again.

No. It's like making it in NM and then in HM and nothing else.

They are different.

Fear Me! · Apr 13, 2008, 04:43 AM // 04:43

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Can I please have titles for NM Vanquishing then? Can I fill my Hero Handbook at the same time as my Hard Mode Hero Handbook too? This is the snowball that starts an avalanche. I got Guardian and Protector on my main character a long time ago. However, I only have Protector on my other characters. I still have Guardian to do. Am I upset that this idea would mean I 'wasted' time doing the Protectot titles? No, I'm against it because it makes no sense to me. HM and NM are different. You may want to say it is only the skills, IAS, movement, recharge, etc. of the monster that changed, but THAT IS DIFFERENT. NM you can comlpete a mission with 1 Monk and 5 players. Try that on HM and you will have a difficlut time. This changes the make up of your team. Just because NM is easier, does not mean you should get credit without doing it.

I want my level 20 Monk to get credit for a HM and NM Hero Handbook for doing the quests in HM. I'm only rank 4 in the titles, so I can use both books still

/unsigned still

/not signed. I agree with overkill statement above; makes me wanna perform backbreaker on an insanely cute ingame tameable pet.