Apr 28, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00
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#21
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: somewhere over the rainbow....
Profession: A/
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/sigh
stop QQ'ing unless its owning in the halls it doesn't need a nerf
just cuz your ritspike lost doesn't mean its over powered
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Apr 28, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05
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#22
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: F͊̕҉̡͍̘͍̜̬̲̪u͒͗̍̽ͭ&
Guild: F͊̕҉̡͍̘͍̜̬̲̪u͒͗̍̽ͭ&
Profession: W/Mo
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I herd Shock wuz gud.
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Apr 28, 2008, 05:13 AM // 05:13
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#23
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lordheinous
Are you really so rigidly stuck to cookie-cutter builds that you can't change a single skill on your entire team to counter him? All you really need is one, and there are plenty that can fulfill whatever purpose it is that you'd be giving up for the skill slot. The only reasons I can see you not changing is because either you resist change or your using some gimmick yourself that doesn't leave any room for change. In the first case, change your attitude; in the second, you don't have much credibility to complain about what you view to be a gimmick, do you?
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You can shove your self-righteousness right up your ass kthnxbye...
I actually never fought against him, I just constantly saw him in HA running it. So before you go putting words into people's mouths and labeling people's "attitudes" you should adjust yours first.
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Apr 28, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21
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#24
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler
You can shove your self-righteousness right up your ass kthnxbye...
I actually never fought against him, I just constantly saw him in HA running it. So before you go putting words into people's mouths and labeling people's "attitudes" you should adjust yours first.
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So you're complaining when you don't even have a valid reason to complain...
And, yeah, personal insults are always a GREAT way to counter logical reasoning...
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Apr 28, 2008, 05:26 AM // 05:26
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#25
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler
You can [skill]shove[/skill]
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Fixed and solved. There are enough Signets, PBAoE skills, and touch skills that disrupt it.
Nerfs are for overpowered builds, not griefer builds. Especially when those griefer builds make PvE folk real happy.
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Apr 28, 2008, 05:31 AM // 05:31
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#26
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Indeed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lordheinous
And, yeah, personal insults are always a GREAT way to counter logical reasoning...
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He wasn't complaining at all. All he said is that he the saw the said character all day today in HA. That doesn't sound like complaining to me.
You are not one to talk about logical reasoning. Your assumption had to no basis at all.
Some of you PvPers have to grow a pair and stop trying to best each other by insults.
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Apr 28, 2008, 05:37 AM // 05:37
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#27
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Furnace Stoker
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Having a counter != balanced.
If I only had 5$ for every time I've had to say that on GWG.
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Apr 28, 2008, 05:37 AM // 05:37
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#28
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
Fixed and solved. There are enough Signets, PBAoE skills, and touch skills that disrupt it.
Nerfs are for overpowered builds, not griefer builds. Especially when those griefer builds make PvE folk real happy.
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I love you.
Seriously though, that was really clever. And yes, I'm one of those pve people who love it. Its a farming technique that's actually more exciting than watching paint dry, and which challenges one to get clever to use in different areas. I understand that some skills need to be balanced for pvp and that sometimes that hurts farming builds, and while I can't say that I like the fact, I don't object to it, as I respect the pain imba-ness can cause to pvpers. However, I'm being so vocal on this issue because this isn't a balance issue, and I don't want such an interesting combo to be destroyed by the shameless whining of a few people either too lazy, too stupid, or too stubborn to even adapt just a little.
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Apr 28, 2008, 06:07 AM // 06:07
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#29
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I like yumy food!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Where I can eat yumy food
Guild: Dead Alley [dR]
Profession: Mo/R
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To the OP: This is why you don't run ritspike. Duh? If you're going to run a one-dimensional gimmick, be prepared to deal with its downsides.
Lrn2play.
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Apr 28, 2008, 06:19 AM // 06:19
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#30
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northeastern Ohio
Guild: LaZy
Profession: P/W
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Anyone else here that comming?
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Apr 28, 2008, 06:43 AM // 06:43
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#31
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]
Profession: W/E
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It doesn't affect GvG therefore it will not be nerfed. Sucks.
Either you're a lifeless scumbag who's fond of perma-SF griefing people and you say something in this topic like "QQ MOAR ACRONYM ELITISM", or you're someone who's just sick of the crap and would like to not see this again. Either way, there's really no point to it.
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Apr 28, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54
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#32
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Frost Gate Guardian
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thats messed up
Last edited by jinzo7; Apr 28, 2008 at 06:58 AM // 06:58..
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Apr 28, 2008, 07:02 AM // 07:02
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#33
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I like yumy food!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Where I can eat yumy food
Guild: Dead Alley [dR]
Profession: Mo/R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d
It doesn't affect GvG therefore it will not be nerfed. Sucks.
Either you're a lifeless scumbag who's fond of perma-SF griefing people and you say something in this topic like "QQ MOAR ACRONYM ELITISM", or you're someone who's just sick of the crap and would like to not see this again. Either way, there's really no point to it.
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Hi. My name is balanced. I have the tools to deal with this.
Just because you can't beat it doesn't mean it should get nerfed. What'll happen to my assassin running build!??!?
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Apr 28, 2008, 07:21 AM // 07:21
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#34
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: StP
Profession: R/
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Dont play failspike and bring a mesmer [leech signet]
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Apr 28, 2008, 07:32 AM // 07:32
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#35
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2008
Guild: Heaven Royal Knights (HRK)
Profession: A/N
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here is a real answer to your problem, "Live with it!!"
The skill has been nerfed already, making it almost useless in PvE and an annoying in pvp, but the real point is that the player is using themselves as a distraction while the other players sack the sins target or other targets.
Sorry to break the fact that you can't see tactics in use, and even if the player is being annoying, who cares, just play the game.
A better solution to pvp is to make it like a FPS game, no spells, or limited spells, and 4 hits kill, reguardless of armor or weapons or spells used. No healing no rezing, limited range. Thus the game is balanced.
Last edited by Angelina Collins; Apr 28, 2008 at 07:40 AM // 07:40..
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Apr 28, 2008, 07:49 AM // 07:49
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#36
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Droknars Forge
Guild: No Goats No Glory
Profession: Me/
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[skill]Signet Of Disenchantment[/skill] ftw?
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Apr 28, 2008, 08:23 AM // 08:23
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#37
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2008
Guild: Order of the Flameseekers [NL]
Profession: W/
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/not signed
they don't do much damage anyway (due to lack of energy)
just ignore them, gives you a 8-7 (maybe 7.5) advantage
PS: does [rending touch] work against [shadow form]?
i know rending touch is a spell, but it's also a touch skill
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Apr 28, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41
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#38
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: A/N
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Use gimmick vs gimmick.
Bring touchar!
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Apr 28, 2008, 11:18 AM // 11:18
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#39
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Poznań, UTC+1
Guild: We Are From Poland [Pol]
Profession: N/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lordheinous
...The only reasons I can see you not changing is because either you resist change or your using some gimmick yourself that doesn't leave any room for change. In the first case, change your attitude; in the second, you don't have much credibility to complain about what you view to be a gimmick, do you?
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won the thread
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Apr 28, 2008, 11:27 AM // 11:27
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#40
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by graverobber2
PS: does [rending touch] work against [shadow form]?
i know rending touch is a spell, but it's also a touch skill
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Nope, it's a spell. Not a touch skill. It's range is touch, but it's still a skill.
Use Shock, AoE on their healers (they have them, do they? if not, spike their ghostly and heal out damage they try to deal) and a mesmer with signet(s). Wards, well of profane, touchers ;d and that's it. I've met once team with 6 a/me, pretty stupid game. Kill their monks, try to knockdown assassin/interrupt him with a non-attack and non-spell skill and that's it, rinse and repeat. Or kill monks, kill ghostly and wait till the time ends. Boom, free fame ;o
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