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Old May 15, 2008, 11:07 AM // 11:07   #1
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Question Zaishen Title Suggestion

Firstly i like this new title, finally some new emote. ;p
Having said that i'm unsure about one thing, how the hell are we suppose to max it? 100mil cash or 100mil baltazar faction.. lol

I think Anet should make the title easier (at least 10 points per key instead of 5 points per key) cos even at 20 points per key it would still cost ~25mil which is alot higher than cost for the max wisdom, sweet, drunk n party combined.
It kinda sucks if u r already got say rank8.. but u still got 87% to go ;p n i'd love to c ppl with r12 emote in near future.


Also it would be interesting if we can get some better drops from Zaishen chest..
1. increase drop rate for everlasting tonic drop (by 50%)
2. rare mini pet (yeti to shiroken, 1/2 drop rate of everlasting)
3. rarer mini pet (ghostly to beetle, 1/5 drop rate of everlasting)
4. ultra rare mini (island guardian to kanaxai, 1/10 drop rate of everlasting)
5. r8 old skool, r8 insc (three times the drop rate of everlasting)
6. r7 old skool non insc (twice the drop rate of everlasting)
7. unconditional weapon (1/10 drop rate of everlasting)
8. new inscription "Best of the Best" +15% dmg always (1/10 drop rate of everlasting)
9. *mad pve items, e.g. everlasting pumpkin cake, golden egg, candy corn, candy apple, etc (1/20 drop rate of everlasting)
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Old May 15, 2008, 11:18 AM // 11:18   #2
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A chest that everyone in the game can access, and you want to turn it into a true lotto that has about every single rare item in existence.

/notsigned. Go back to your slot machine.
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Old May 15, 2008, 11:36 AM // 11:36   #3
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/signed for a slight raise in points, but /unsigned for the drops suggestions...

..and off topic but LOL at the Black White Supremacist avatar Xunlai Master.
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Old May 15, 2008, 11:51 AM // 11:51   #4
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Originally Posted by Xunlai Master
Firstly i like this new title, finally some new emote. ;p
Having said that i'm unsure about one thing, how the hell are we suppose to max it? 100mil cash or 100mil baltazar faction.. lol

I think Anet should make the title easier (at least 10 points per key instead of 5 points per key) cos even at 20 points per key it would still cost ~25mil which is alot higher than cost for the max wisdom, sweet, drunk n party combined.
It kinda sucks if u r already got say rank8.. but u still got 87% to go ;p n i'd love to c ppl with r12 emote in near future.


Also it would be interesting if we can get some better drops from Zaishen chest..
1. increase drop rate for everlasting tonic drop (by 50%)
2. rare mini pet (yeti to shiroken, 1/2 drop rate of everlasting)
3. rarer mini pet (ghostly to beetle, 1/5 drop rate of everlasting)
4. ultra rare mini (island guardian to kanaxai, 1/10 drop rate of everlasting)
5. r8 old skool, r8 insc (three times the drop rate of everlasting)
6. r7 old skool non insc (twice the drop rate of everlasting)
7. unconditional weapon (1/10 drop rate of everlasting)
8. new inscription "Best of the Best" +15% dmg always (1/10 drop rate of everlasting)
9. *mad pve items, e.g. everlasting pumpkin cake, golden egg, candy corn, candy apple, etc (1/20 drop rate of everlasting)
I lol'd at when u suggested to raise the points/per opened chests. But ohmygawd? Are you messing with us or really suggestion this?
A new inscription? Wow. More PvE over PvP advantage please.

And for the increase of points, let me put it this way: I think they should give 25 champion points per win.
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Old May 15, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13   #5
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No & No

Even if it costs more, its a universal title therefore, it can count for 8+ sweet tooth titles. Also, unlike those titles you get money back from doing it. Finally the emote is gay, as it still leaves all the other pvp titles emoteless, whilst the newcomer gets a new emote 1st minute in.
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Old May 15, 2008, 12:25 PM // 12:25   #6
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Day 1 - Introduce Title
Day 2 - Read QQ Threads because title cannot be gained with as little effort as possible.
Day 3 - Repeat until eyes bleed

And no need to feel sorry for Rank 8's , since they have already used 2500+keys at 2.5k-5.0k each for a silly emote which imbues them nothing more than honorary membership of the Chucklehead club
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Old May 15, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27   #7
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Why does EVERYTHING in GW need a "point" to it?

Until the title track was added Zaishen Keys were just a bit of fun, but now there is a title track which relies on them, it gives them a point, a purpose, and it ruins all the fun of it. Now...the Zaishen Title track doesn't "do" enough for you? How about, now that it's been implemented, we just leave it as a way of displaying a PvEer's wealth and stupidity?

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8. new inscription "Best of the Best" +15% dmg always (1/10 drop rate of everlasting)
9. *mad pve items, e.g. everlasting pumpkin cake, golden egg, candy corn, candy apple, etc (1/20 drop rate of everlasting)
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10. Everlasting Attunement Tonic - PvP consumable granting +2 energy regen for 120 mins. Stackable & Reuseable.
11. Everlasting PvE Key of Ultimate Win. Put this item in your inventory and grant your character the use of the "/win" command. Reuseable.
12. Everlasting Key of Financial Bliss. Put this item in your inventory and grant your character the "/freemonies" command to gain a free 10,000 gold. Reuseable.

Assuming your list gets more and more unbalanced the higher it goes, I can only assume it is leading to that...

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Old May 15, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #8
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/notsigned

just leave it be as is and either try to earn it or buy it...long way to go before GW2 anyway...
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Old May 15, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06   #9
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The stuff at the end of your list starts to get pretty imba. /notsigned
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Old May 15, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12   #10
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Why does EVERYTHING in GW need a "point" to it?

Until the title track was added Zaishen Keys were just a bit of fun, but now there is a title track which relies on them, it gives them a point, a purpose, and it ruins all the fun of it. Now...the Zaishen Title track doesn't "do" enough for you? How about, now that it's been implemented, we just leave it as a way of displaying a PvEer's wealth and stupidity?


...
10. Everlasting Attunement Tonic - PvP consumable granting +2 energy regen for 120 mins. Stackable & Reuseable.
11. Everlasting PvE Key of Ultimate Win. Put this item in your inventory and grant your character the use of the "/win" command. Reuseable.
12. Everlasting Key of Financial Bliss. Put this item in your inventory and grant your character the "/freemonies" command to gain a free 10,000 gold. Reuseable.

Assuming your list gets more and more unbalanced the higher it goes, I can only assume it is leading to that...

/notsigned.
I laughed IRL reading this. Good shit there. 10. is freaky!
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Old May 16, 2008, 04:43 AM // 04:43   #11
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lol ok maybe scratch the unconditional n mad pve items, they are just some ideas.. i thought it would be interesting to have "useful" ultra rare items(rather than just for fun or showing off.. e.g. panda, everlasting tonics). They are only for pve n probably ultra expensive if they actually existed. So if u can afford the everlasting pumpkin cake, u could easily just buy bulk of normal pumpkin cakes instead..

I dont c harm in rare minis or r7-r8 weapons etc. i got all the r8 items i want long time ago, but they'll certainly help new players. How many of u can afford island guardian or panda? at least this way we all have chance at em n might be able to prevent "rich gets richer" trend in game.

Chances are you won’t get 1 everlasting tonic(worth ~150e) with 200 keys(worth ~220e), most ppl will just end up with like 30k worth of items. so drops should be better since we are paying 5k per key ;p


Anyway Anet should at least change it to 10-20 points per key... this clearly isnt a pvp title n i dont c any reason why it should be insanely hard to max.

p.s. Celestial Beaver u left out no 13.
13. Everlasting Commander Scroll - Double Click to roll 100/100, permanently take over all shrines, god mode on. This item has unlimited uses, and can only be used in Hero Battles.

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Old May 16, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14   #12
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Why not let us use other kinds of faction for keys too. Maybe the Luxon and Kurzick reps could sell Zkeys too and that woiuld get more people into the Factions arenas.
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Old May 16, 2008, 09:48 AM // 09:48   #13
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GG making the rich even more rich. Look! I got a mini-polar bear, let's sell it for Z-keys. Yay! I got 500 Z-keys, let's use them! Whoa! I got some more rare stuff that can be sold for Z-keys...Omg! I used them 1000 Z-keys and I got so much rare stuff that I can buy over 9000 Z-keys!

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Old May 16, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44   #14
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I think I just read a post somewhere that explains why titles ruin the fun in the game. And this is clearly why, because you have posters like the OP wanting to easily farm those titles, instead of just playing the game or opening the chest for the fun of it.
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Old May 16, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54   #15
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p.s. Celestial Beaver u left out no 13.
13. Everlasting Commander Scroll - Double Click to roll 100/100, permanently take over all shrines, god mode on. This item has unlimited uses, and can only be used in Hero Battles.
There isn't a Rank 13.

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I think I just read a post somewhere that explains why titles ruin the fun in the game. And this is clearly why, because you have posters like the OP wanting to easily farm those titles, instead of just playing the game or opening the chest for the fun of it.
Amen to that.
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Old May 16, 2008, 12:34 PM // 12:34   #16
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Chances are you won’t get 1 everlasting tonic(worth ~150e) with 200 keys(worth ~220e), most ppl will just end up with like 30k worth of items. so drops should be better since we are paying 5k per key ;p


Anyway Anet should at least change it to 10-20 points per key... this clearly isnt a pvp title n i dont c any reason why it should be insanely hard to max.
You aren't paying 5k per key because of anet, there is no set price for keys and players are free to sell for whatever people are willing to pay for them. With the recent addition of the title and first ever pve emote people aren't buying the keys for the drops they get, they're buying it for the emote/title/ or to just have some fun and believe it or not if the keys gave double the rewards they'd double in price.

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When I first heard about the Balth faction rewards (before the z-keys even came out) I was really hoping that you could benefit from your current Balth faction earned on your account as well and more importantly your faction cap.

It would be cool if having a higher faction cap could do something useful, like sell different kinds of Z-keys, the 5K ones which give you the crap drops, or 10K, 15K, etc... you could improve your chances for a good drop but it would still only count as opening the chest once.

I would also like to see that purchasing keys with faction would increase the title as well, so you could buy the keys, get points, use the keys and get points. This way you could still sell/buy keys for gold and get points, but you would get double the points if you earned and used your own keys.
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/notsigned

If you want the title do the work. Starting a thread suggesting to make it easier just leaves you open to flames.
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Old May 16, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51   #19
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Let me guess, OP wants to max the title, but cannot afford it, so he wants to make it easier to get and wants it to drop rarer stuff.

I think the whole point of making the title 100,000 points to max was so people wouldn't max it. If they wanted people to be able to realistically max it, they would have made it lower.

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I think I just read a post somewhere that explains why titles ruin the fun in the game. And this is clearly why, because you have posters like the OP wanting to easily farm those titles, instead of just playing the game or opening the chest for the fun of it.
Agreed. This is why we can't have nice things.
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