Curse

Master Mayhem · May 28, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Hi

I have been playing my paragon, and i find that there is no shield with leadership req. Most builds i use mostly have spear mastery and leadership skills. I tend to have both of them maxed and i cant meet the attribute for command/motivation shields.

My suggestion is Anet to make shields for Paragons which need Leadership req.

evilseabass · May 28, 2008, 07:13 PM // 19:13

This has been requested many times, and I agree

/signed

phan · May 28, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Fist give us them 300helms with feathers ;

keke thx

Steboy93 · May 28, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

/signed

Yes please

Tyla · May 28, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

Aren't Paragons imba enough?!

You don't need a high rank in Command for "GftE!" to be effective as energy management.

English Warrior · May 28, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

/notsigned if this happens i want another attrib shield for my warrior :P and daggers under deadly arts.

Loxomira · May 28, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Anet should change strength shields to tactics.

Taisayacho · May 28, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

/signed, if we take out either motivation or command ones. We must keep the balance

Although, pretty much every paragon build uses Leadership, while not every warrior uses strength, if you get what I'm saying.
on a side note, I also want wings on paragons while we're at it

. The picture on the box was deceiving, I thought I'd get wings when I first made one! (that's actually why I made one in the first place :S)

ArkNayarr · May 28, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49

I like the idea but I don't think it should be Shields.

An item or two can be added for most attributes that don't have anything pretty easily.

Leadership can have Horns or Standards (Flags) that take up a shield slot.
Deadly/Shadow Arts can have unique two handed weapons.
Swordsmanship linked Blocking Swords. This works for Axes too.

They could introduce some new mechanics with these as well. Something like a Battle Horn adding 10% or so to Shout Durations, or a Standard giving a 10% HSR in a Ward like the Ebon Standard does, except all the time. It might be difficult for them to be balanced, but I think they would be really neat and add a lot of interesting PvP and PvE options. Although I'm certain most people here will complain...

...oh well, there's always GW 2.

Taisayacho · May 28, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkNayarr

I like the idea but I don't think it should be Shields.

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Leadership can have Horns or Standards (Flags) that take up a shield slot.

I actually thought paragons should have focuses instead of shields at the start, because I thought they were too much like warriors.

How wrong I was.

Although I still like the focuses on paragons idea.

MagmaRed · May 28, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

/unsigned

Too many weapons and attributes would need to be considered and/or added to keep balance the same for all classes.

Bows with Expertise, Wilderness Survival and Beast Mastery requirements.
Daggers with Critical Strikes, Deadly Arts and Shadow Arts requirements.
Scythes with Mysticism, Earth Prayers and Wind Prayers requirements.

And don't forget mods. Dagger Handle of Mastery increases Dagger Mastery attribute. Why can't we have +1 Deadly Arts, Shadow Arts, and Critical Strikes bonuses? Just consider all the weapons, attributes and mods that start becoming desired if this gets added.

Div · May 28, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

I think the whole point was to discourage pure spear/leadership bars.

la_cabra_de_vida · May 28, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Paragons are broken enough.

kullwarrior · May 28, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkNayarr

I like the idea but I don't think it should be Shields.

An item or two can be added for most attributes that don't have anything pretty easily.

Leadership can have Horns or Standards (Flags) that take up a shield slot.
Deadly/Shadow Arts can have unique two handed weapons.
Swordsmanship linked Blocking Swords. This works for Axes too.

They could introduce some new mechanics with these as well. Something like a Battle Horn adding 10% or so to Shout Durations, or a Standard giving a 10% HSR in a Ward like the Ebon Standard does, except all the time. It might be difficult for them to be balanced, but I think they would be really neat and add a lot of interesting PvP and PvE options. Although I'm certain most people here will complain...

...oh well, there's always GW 2.

agree on horns, perhaps... umm shout increase percentage like req 9 would have 20% longer

Master Mayhem · May 28, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

For people unsigning / Make a paragon, get it to lvl 20 and then u will know why paragons need leadership req shield.

Tyla · May 28, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

I've already made a Paragon, and it's not our fault you don't understand how powerful Paragons are already.

Paragons don't need a Leadership shield, they need deleting / fixing.

MisterB · May 28, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Mayhem

For people unsigning / Make a paragon, get it to lvl 20 and then u will know why paragons need leadership req shield.

Been there, done that, and I don't need a Leadership shield. I can also understand why it wasn't implemented. Divine posted why in a nutshell. This topic has been discussed in the paragon campfire on guru; I suggest you go look there.

Trylo · May 28, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

uhh... you think anet introduced paragons with command and motivation shields and just 'forgot' leadership shields or what?

OH WAIT maybe they did it on purpose. <== correct answer.

if you cant answer why they did that i suggest you reconsider your paragon.

Oblivious Moose · May 28, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

/signed...

ive said this many times in the past..

give leadership req shields, or remove str based sheilds.

that and give all shield skins to both war and para.. not fair that war has EVERY SHIELD SKIN, while para only has a limited number.

been unbalanced like this since day 1 with para.. please fix anet. its really not that hard to add 3 LINES OF CODE.

Konig Des Todes · May 28, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeds

/notsigned if this happens i want another attrib shield for my warrior :P and daggers under deadly arts.

Agreed.
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