Curse

ogre_jd · Apr 25, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Tons of people keep calling for a general nerfing to Ursan Blessing. Personally, I don't think that it's necessary to reduce the skill's abilities at all. Instead, perhaps limiting it (and Raven & Volfen, obviously) so that it can only be used in the Norn regions (ie, only in the 6 Far Shiverpeaks explorables and the associated dungeons, and not in the Tarnished Coast, Charr Homelands or anywhere else in Tyria, Elona or Cantha) would be the way to go.

After all, the Blessings are granted by the Norn's totem spirits, not by Dwayna, Balthazar, etc., who are gods that are worshipped pretty much everywhere in the world, so why should they have power outside their home region? True, there'd be plenty of whining, but it'd still be very powerful for a decently-sized region where a fair part of the game takes place, without ruining the balance for the elite areas and the quests for the campaigns.

EDIT: Disclosure - I use Ursan on my main character (a W/R), currently r7. When I'm not using my [[Warrior's Endurance] build to spam [[Power Attack], anyways, or my new [[Dragon Slash] build (just got Factions the other day). And, except for when I LFG'd for the Ring of Fire mission in Prophecies, I've never advertised as an Ursan nor been required (or even asked to) use it by a PUG. So, despite what many seem to claim later on in the thread, I'm not an Ursan hater. The worst you could say is that, after a short period of addiction, I've been going out of my way to not use it, especially in Factions (since I just got it).

Tyla · Apr 25, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

It should be nerfed to the ground.
Not limited.

Mind you, +1 for another Ursan thread.

N1ghtstalker · Apr 25, 2008, 04:22 PM // 16:22

if you make it bound to the norn regions it's worthless imo ^.~
there are about 5 norn area's and you wanna make it only usable in those area's
lol worst idea ever /notsigned

Mohnzh · Apr 25, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

/notsigned.

Hardly makes them elite, eh? They may be overpowered, but seriously, who cares? I don't Ursan, but I don't mind it when people do. And it shouldn't be considered imbalanced because the monsters don't have a sense of fairness

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Dronte · Apr 25, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27

/notsigned
no more ursan threads please

Hara Makoto · Apr 25, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28

tbh if this was going to happen it would be a much better idea to limit it to eotn , but having ursan blessing allows you to do so much more , on some professions where you can't do high end otherwise . you have to look at it from that context , and in that way it succeeds , so

/notsign

Zydonis · Apr 25, 2008, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Better to just remove it.

MirkoTeran · Apr 25, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

/signed. Any nerf to UB is good.

Tokar Terrius · Apr 25, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

/unsigned

Fed up of hearing about Ursan, either FOR or AGAINST! Just drop it!

Taisayacho · Apr 25, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

/signed.
any nerf-type-thing for ursan is good.

Mini Masher · Apr 25, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hara Makoto

tbh if this was going to happen it would be a much better idea to limit it to eotn , but having ursan blessing allows you to do so much more , on some professions where you can't do high end otherwise . you have to look at it from that context , and in that way it succeeds , so

/notsign

I'm not following your logic here. Why can't some professions do high-end areas? Any reasonably competent team of players should be able to organize themselves in such a way that everyone can bring the prof they choose and complete any area imo.

and oh yeah... anything that kills ursan=ftw

Azora · Apr 25, 2008, 04:44 PM // 16:44

/NOTSIGNED let ursan has it is

Miska Bow · Apr 25, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Nerf all ursan thread.

+1 before close

Ctb · Apr 25, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Don't care about Ursan, don't care how other people play no matter how stupid and dull I think it is, don't care to see these threads anymore.

/notsigned... duh

Unreal Havoc · Apr 25, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mini Masher

Why can't some professions do high-end areas? Any reasonably competent team of players should be able to organize themselves in such a way that everyone can bring the prof they choose and complete any area imo.

Hit the nail on the head, good post.

Hara Makoto · Apr 25, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mini Masher

I'm not following your logic here. Why can't some professions do high-end areas? Any reasonably competent team of players should be able to organize themselves in such a way that everyone can bring the prof they choose and complete any area imo.

and oh yeah... anything that kills ursan=ftw

be my guest for every profession to do high end areas , but for starters ,pvx contains very few builds for things like paragons , dervishes to do the areas in question , and my guild which specialises in high end missions also does not use these sorts of professions in it's builds , hence why ursan is needed

Super Igor · Apr 25, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

/notsigned

If you dont whant to run it, dont run it, simple as that, its PvE.

~Super Igor

~

pumpkin pie · Apr 25, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Wanders if birthday cupcake can be use with ursan blessing.... interesting

Orange Milk · Apr 25, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

/signed, any nerf to Ursan is a good nerf

Infact make it so a Zealous Weapon mod has no effect to UB aswell.

I don't Ursan and I don't like being in groups with Ursans because If I wanted to be extreamly bored I'd go watch the grass grow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hara makoto
be my guest for every profession to do high end areas , but for starters ,pvx contains very few builds for things like paragons , dervishes to do the areas in question , and my guild which specialises in high end Ursaning also does not use these sorts of professions in it's Ursaning
, hence why ursan is needed

Fixed that for ya

Ok then, you could make builds for such proffesions, but I guess is you would rather just hit the easy button.

zamial · Apr 25, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mini Masher

I'm not following your logic here. Why can't some professions do high-end areas? Any reasonably competent team of players should be able to organize themselves in such a way that everyone can bring the prof they choose and complete any area imo.

QFT

The problem is: casual players can not do the elite dungeons in under 2 hours without ursan.

The solution: Nerf ursan to to be as usful as the other 2 forms or boost the other 2 to be equal. This will never happen.

so lets all stop the the ursan threads, the only reason to complain about them at all is
1: your norn rank isn't maxed or you don't have EoTN. both of which can be resolved by you.
2: you pug

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Kthxbye