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Old Jun 08, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55   #1
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I am rank 2 on the HB Ladder, and as most of you know that at this rank it can take up to 20-40 minutes to get a single game. Due to this problem, many people are tanking there rating as they want to up there commander title, or they are just quiting HB/GW overall because of the long and boring waits for 'nothing' basically.

I don't think I should be punished for being so high in the HB ladder as I want to get my rank 7 commander title, but this is just becoming impossible unless I tank. I won't tank my rank, as I ain't got the time for one and two because I don't want too.

I think that ANET should work out a system, that allows players higher in the HB ladder to gain more than 1 commander point per win...


Example:

Top 3 - 5 Points

Top 10 - 4 Points

Top 30 - 3 Points

Top 100 - 2 Points

...and the rest 1 point.

Obviously, this is just an example!


Now think about it, this could have such a positive effect on HB. Higher ranked players would become more active again, there will be alot more people playing rated as theres a 'reason' now, no more players tanking and lastly there will be once again 'competition' for that top 10 spot in HB.

I think this is a freaking great idea... who's with me?

~ I also posted this in the HB forum as that's where all the HB players can discuss it as they probaly wouldn't look here.

~ Please no 'who carezzz, HB iz pointlezzzz, do REAL pvPee' posts please.
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Old Jun 08, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #2
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/signed, makes sense to me...
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Old Jun 08, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16   #3
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who carezzz, HB iz pointlezzzz, do REAL pvPee!!!!!!11111
Seriously though, I don't have the time or the will to get into the top 100 and the only time I ever even visit HB is during the double point weekends. Having said that I'm sure there's something other than 3-4 points a game keeping the highend HBers from "HBing" but if Anet thinks this is a good idea then I'm all for it being implemented.

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Old Jun 08, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18   #4
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I thought this was going to be a /Rank for the Commander title, but in this case, with all the waiting on it, I /Sign.
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Old Jun 08, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27   #5
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/sign once more. this is a great idea, gives a lot more players the motivation to jump into the game and may bring in some new. good hero battlers or even the old ones. Its a win-win for ANET: the good players continue to play and and the bad ones try to get better to compete.

Should go more like this though IMO:

Top 5 = 5 points
top 20 = 4 points
top 50 = 3 points
top 100=2 points
...and the rest 1 point gg
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Old Jun 08, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39   #6
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Thanks for the support, if anyone can pass this idea onto someone that can do something about it then I will appreciate it very much.

I just think this idea makes so much sense... Keeps higher ranked players active, and encourages newer HB players to have a reason to get better.

I agree Conjure Ho, that seems good to me... but I was just giving a rough idea.

...I think that the 'Top Player - Rank 1' should maybe get 10 points? Just to keep that competition for rank 1... but yeah, thats just my opinion.
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13   #7
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I think the system should be reversed.

If your opponent is in the top three, you get 5 points, etc.

People that are already high ranked shouldn't get points just because they're high ranked. That's BS. I'll start demanding 20 gamer points in DA for winning because I'm r6.
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16   #8
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/signed

This sounds fair
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20   #9
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I think the system should be reversed.

If your opponent is in the top three, you get 5 points, etc.

People that are already high ranked shouldn't get points just because they're high ranked. That's BS. I'll start demanding 20 gamer points in DA for winning because I'm r6.
Shut up . LOL. Sorry but this will make the whole situation x10 worse and would ruin HB. End of.
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15   #10
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/Not signed.

Shit happens. Had 2 timer restarts in the Hall of Heroes the other day. That's a 12min timer restart each time! It happens more often each week. And last week I was in Alliance Battles and had to wait 15 minutes before the game started 3 times.

So... I'd like fame and reopen the chest when I get a timer restart? Or Faction reward for waiting more than 5min in an outpost? Not gonna happen. No reason why Hero Battles should be rewarded for doing nothing.


The problem?
Less and less people who play the game every night. In HA and GvG observer you see the same teams all over the time. There was a time where more teams were playing each evening. That's European evening/night for me.

The solution?
Improve match making on all types of PvP. Not just Hero Battles. Waiting times ARE annoying lately but I can't see Anet change it because there simply aren't enough people playing... I guess.

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Old Jun 09, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19   #11
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Shut up . LOL. Sorry but this will make the whole situation x10 worse and would ruin HB. End of.
No your wrong the end of HB was the entire HB system. /notsigned

Just tank your rank if your good you can just climb back up...
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31   #12
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Yeah, I understand... non-hb players don't understand the situation at all. I'd rather non-hb players stay out of this topic.

Seriously, I can't stand people who failed at HB... so they have to bash it.

"uhh da end of hb was the entire systemzzzz' - Yeah okay... Pointless explaining to some people.

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Old Jun 09, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #13
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Yeah, I understand... non-hb players don't understand the situation at all. I'd rather non-hb players stay out of this topic.

Seriously, I can't stand people who failed at HB... so they have to bash it.

"uhh da end of hb was the entire systemzzzz' - Yeah okay... Pointless explaining to some people.
First off my grammar is not that horrible...

Second the HB system is bad. It honestly is. If you are good you should not have a problem climbing back up after you tank your rank.
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Old Jun 09, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51   #14
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First off my grammar is not that horrible...

Second the HB system is bad. It honestly is. If you are good you should not have a problem climbing back up after you tank your rank.
Why should I waste my time tanking my rank, just so I can climb back up the ladder?

I do HB for fun and I want there to be more activity in the higher ranks.

I just waited 30 minutes for a game, it was a tanker... so wasted my time. I waited another 30 minutes, you never guess what... it was another tanker... in 1 hour of waiting, I did not get a single game of HB. GREAT.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37   #15
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Makes me wonder what timezone you're in. You sure you aren't playing during the dead hours?
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #16
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i personally think that hb is the worst addition to gw and how its played right now its very meta and there is very little room for it to change because of a lack of AI.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 04:39 AM // 04:39   #17
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I do HB for fun...
Go play non-rated?

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Yeah, I understand... non-hb players don't understand the situation at all. I'd rather non-hb players stay out of this topic.
So then you post your suggestion on the HB subforum like you did, except that's not the place to make suggestions, so it comes back here...

o, wait...

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Sorry but this will make the whole situation x10 worse and would ruin HB.
Perhaps you could elaborate on that?

Either way, my original suggestion still stands. Reverse the point systems so that people that beat higher ranked opponents get more points. It serves logic that people with a higher rank should have more skill, and therefore should reap more of a reward if they are beaten.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16   #18
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I never play HB, but I understand your point --> /signed

Maybe it would also be nice, to make some new emotes for these titles:

We have Hero and Zaishen, so why not for gladiator and commander?
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45   #19
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Hawke: You said do non-rated... this clearly shows you don't understand the situation... It can take me upto 3 hours to get a game in non-rated.

Ate of DK: No I am talking about playing at peak times, at dead hours... it will take 40-50 mins to get a match, and they'll be rank N/A... which I beat in 1 minute.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52   #20
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I am rank 2 on the HB Ladder, and as most of you know that at this rank it can take up to 20-40 minutes to get a single game.
Yes, becasue Just about everyone in GWs has been rank 2 of HB at sometime.

epeen less, troll less, HB more. Al this time you've been trolling and insulting you could have been waiting for a match.

And Hawkes Idea is golden, YOU Massacre say you want more "high level" people on and want people to stop tanking thier rank, Well if you use Hawkes idea then the higher rank you are, the better chance you have of being paired with someone who can net you more commander points if you win, thustly you won't tank out and if you win often enough against those players you will become a "high level" HBer faster and then sudenly there are more high level HBers.

Also you constantly contridict yourself in this thread as well as the one in the HB Forum. I'd post the examples for you but I don't reall y feel like it. I'll just say theat you mentioned that you don't care about Commander rank but that you want this implemented so you can get to r7 commander faster. ect ect.
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